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And tell us oh great one what would you do? Have you ever presented any plans or ideas to any one? Or do you sit at these captain's meetings that you so diligently post & cry about your neighbor putting out his garbage too early or the indigents or day laborers who almost ran you over on the sidewalk with their bicycles. Puhleeze, you talk like a big man but wasn't it you who once said you wouldn't ride down a certain street in Hoboken cause there was a "social" club there & you didn't want to invade their turf?
Posted on: 2016/1/6 0:13
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I just offered to introduce you to some real people, in real poverty. No sugar. Guess you can't handle the real truth.
Posted on: 2016/1/5 5:18
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Posted on: 2016/1/5 5:04
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Wealth-wise - I'm probably top 2%. But I find your views entirely repugnant. I hang out with a lot of folks in both JC and Newark that struggle to make ends meet. PM me. I'll introduce you to some real people.
Posted on: 2016/1/5 3:51
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Posted on: 2016/1/5 2:35
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Of course it is, everyone stays within their own pocket. The only demographic that keeps diversity together is wealth and sometimes education.
Posted on: 2016/1/5 2:25
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Google it for yourself: "history of NJ racial segregation". For example: http://www.bobbraunsledger.com/new-jerseys-apartheid-schools/ I don't think apartheid is too strong a word.
Posted on: 2016/1/5 1:33
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Posted on: 2016/1/5 1:05
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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015 ... _of_every_person.html#Map Even in a diverse city like JC, segregation is pretty evident.
Posted on: 2016/1/5 0:57
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i ask "whose fault is it that african american students underperform even against migrants from africa, asia and the americas?" please explain this to me and a solution since you seem to have all the answers.
even some black teachers will tell you that many black american kids and/or their parents in urban areas don't give a frack about learning. the truth is out there and that's the truth. this could more easily have been explained away as an effect of segregation in the 50's and 60's, but it is now 2016 and that explanation is getting long in te tooth
Posted on: 2016/1/5 0:19
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You have first hand knowledge...? I would like to know exactly what you are referring to when you question someone's motives. Why do you believe they don't prioritize education? Is it because they are playing basketball instead of studying? Without knowing every child in our city that plays basketball, how are you able to discern their motives, thoughts and desires?
Posted on: 2016/1/4 22:37
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i have first hand knowledge of what i am talking about and
Posted on: 2016/1/4 22:08
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hero69 wrote: sure, there are special situations that can create a sense of hopelessness or whatever, but there is no way you are going to convince me that those kids playing basketball every single day and spending $200 for a pair of sneakers are hopeless; they have a PRIORITIES which does not include education. also, there are plenty of situations where fathers (whether criminal or not) are not " not living" in section 8
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Posted on: 2016/1/4 21:41
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1. You can?t live in a Section 8 house if you commit a crime. Once arrested, you lose the privilege. 2. Your argument about welfare for work already exists and has existed in NJ policy for about 20 years. It?s called Workfare. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workfare 3. The only proven methodology is the blend of income brackets that disperses those more prone to cause problems among those that don?t. Quote:
Great concept. Now, put it in practice. How do you physically force someone to take on responsibility? How do you know people aren?t *trying* and possibly failing? How do you know that the people are trying but are just simply too ignorant to know that the decisions they are making are poor? Quote:
Someone on welfare having additional children doesn?t equal more money in their pocket. This has been the case for 20 years. However, you seem to miss the fact that by breeding out criminals, you are paying more money down the line. Quote:
You don?t seem to be interested in actually looking at situations as they exist and are more interested in generalizing outliers as being the norm.
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people want to blame the system, the politicians and the teachers when the blame for failure lies with the students and their parent/s. school is not meant to be disneyland.
Posted on: 2016/1/4 2:14
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The families that I know that are struggling with poverty are not concerned with iphones and sneakers. They're struggling to find work, house, clothe and feed their kids. One so-called "deadbeat dad" I know is a Vet, recently lost a low-paying job due to a DWI (likely down to PTSD) - his own father was a cop shot and killed on duty when he was a young kid. I'd fix your sentence. Quote:
Posted on: 2016/1/4 1:49
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FYI, crime was down 8% in Jersey City for 2015. It's also down in Paterson, despite a recent surge. Crime fell in Newark in almost every category, too. The increases were were 8 more homicides (104, compared with 96 last year) and rapes doubled (87 compared with 44). The latter could have as much to do with reporting as with any changes in incidents; NJ also changed its definitions of rape in 2013, which may still be influencing the numbers. I don't see any particular reason to credit politicians with these outcome. At the same time, it doesn't seem like there is much to blame on them either.
Posted on: 2016/1/4 1:48
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You could lead a horse to water...but you can't make it drink.
Posted on: 2016/1/4 1:20
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dtjcview, i think you are mistaken. i don't have a problem paying money for education, i have a problem wasting money. at the end of the day, no amount of money is gonna make a kid learn anything if the kids and their parents don't care..and let's face it, many kids come from backgrounds is not a priority....but getting the latest pair of air jordans is a priority.
people got upset with opraj winfrey when she stated about the obvious about kids wanting iphones or sneakers when started her leadership academy in south africa.
Posted on: 2016/1/4 1:01
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Education is supposed to be the great equalizer-and the earners in NJ keep supporting Jersey City the tune of a half a billion dollars a year, every year, over and over. With lousy results.
Posted on: 2016/1/4 0:50
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So we should introduce some financially-based sterilization system - so the rich get to keep their tax dollars (and affluenza)? Sounds like eugenics to me. There are more than enough tax dollars being thrown at education, welfare, poverty and crime. But almost none of the money is aimed at solutions, and almost none reaches those that need it. We'd rather pay educators, jailers and police and preach personal responsibility. There are few real incentives to reduce poverty, tackle crime, improve education. Until we wake up to that, we're going to continue to burn a lot public money - and solve nothing.
Posted on: 2016/1/4 0:42
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Posted on: 2016/1/3 21:01
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The earners in NJ pay more than their fair share to support Jersey City-which is why JC taxpayers pay on 16% of the cost of educating their own kids while suburban taxpayers put in a HALF BILLION DOLLARS a year to support JC schools, who spend 25% more per student than the state average. And much of that money is wasted, if JC's graduation rate of 67% (20 percentage points below the state average) is an indicator.
Posted on: 2016/1/3 19:13
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So you want to remove all hope? No education, no job, no kids, no future? A eugenics-style solution? You seem quite happy to pay for all the costs associated with poverty - welfare, jails, policing, housing, education, rehab, personal loss - but not a dime towards improving the situation.
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I'm less happy when solutions for other people are paid out of my pocket when much can be accomplished for free. Like not having children you can't afford, for one.
Posted on: 2016/1/3 18:05
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The list was about incentives. Give people the incentives for good life choices like jobs, education and responsibility - remove incentives for bad choices like gang membership and crime - then you wouldn't need to preach from your pulpit.
Posted on: 2016/1/3 18:02
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Not a single point in the list refers to personal responsibility improvement and making better choices in your own life as routes to improvement. Taxing the earners even more won't help if people won't take on a modicum of responsibility.
Posted on: 2016/1/3 17:35
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Posted on: 2016/1/3 17:10
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