user1111 wrote:
Ill keep my car thanks, uber to Woodstock is about $450.00 and to Virginia beach its almost $1500.00. I am starting to think some are idiots.

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I don't see why parking matters. Part of the allure of moving to Jersey City for me was that you don't need to have a car.

For someone to say they don't need a car, I can guess two things: You are not raising children, requiring trips to doctors (infants on mass transit is not easy) and you live close to the PATH. For the rest of JC, we use local doctors and dentists that are not close by, go to events outside of downtown so therefore we do require cars. Since JC is 14 square miles, not everything is walking distance, especially in the cold and snow.

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PremiumContent wrote:
I don't see why parking matters. Part of the allure of moving to Jersey City for me was that you don't need to have a car.

For someone to say they don't need a car, I can guess two things: You are not raising children, requiring trips to doctors (infants on mass transit is not easy) and you live close to the PATH. For the rest of JC, we use local doctors and dentists that are not close by, go to events outside of downtown so therefore we do require cars. Since JC is 14 square miles, not everything is walking distance, especially in the cold and snow.

PremiumContent wrote:
I don't see why parking matters. Part of the allure of moving to Jersey City for me was that you don't need to have a car.

psyop wrote:
You sound like a broken record.



by Yvonne on 2014/11/1 20:46:37

You are fostering your ideas of what JC should be. JC always had parking. But putting in densely pack buildings without parking (our politicians and some civic leaders said cars are unncessary) has caused this problem. People do have cars. We are bringing in more people without adequate parking or enough open space. The result is no parking available, no open space, and people complaining about the PATH which cannot support the number of riders on a daily basis. Even the running theme of some of the school debates, where do we place the number of children in schools.? We ignore the fact these children are living in tax abated buildings that pay no school taxes. JC is an example of poor urban planning.

Yvonne wrote:
There should be a clause in the rebranding video, caution visiting or moving to JC will result in hours looking for parking spaces, tickets, booting and perhaps being labeled as a criminal. Visit with care, car owners.

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Yvonne wrote:
I don't know where this happened but according to some on this board, I exaggerate about parking. I know of other instances that did not make the paper. In the meantime, we are building more buildings without adequate parking pretending those residents will not have cars. We are also ignoring the fact the city failed to place municipal garages throughout this city.

Dementia is a horrible thing.

Yvonne wrote:

Thank you for your apology, my son actually video people fighting on the PATH over a seat several weeks after the service was restored due to Sandy.

Yvonne wrote:
I don't know where this happened but according to some on this board, I exaggerate about parking. I know of other instances that did not make the paper. In the meantime, we are building more buildings without adequate parking pretending those residents will not have cars. We are also ignoring the fact the city failed to place municipal garages throughout this city.

moobycow wrote:
Yvonne,

I thought a bit about it and you are correct. I could have been more polite in my interaction with you. I still think your arguments are incredibly flawed but there's no reason I needed to be mean about it.

I apologize.

Vigilante wrote:
"Road rage" is a misnomer. Assault is assault and this could have been over anything and happened anywhere when you are dealing with stupid people.

Yvonne wrote:
Amazing, I have been here longer than you, my spouse family goes back to 1880s, yet you, Lima17 have decided I should move or get mental health. The next time I attend the freeholders meeting I will ask them to make available the stats on, "turn yourself in" program. The public should see who these so-called criminal are.
You, Lima17, is the reason many people in the rest of JC resent downtown. I hope other residents throughout JC read your comments.

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You're right, neither of those are logical responses. But they are emotional ones, and they will and do happen.

Luckily this is not a problem that affects me personally, but it is very foolish to deny the problem exists, or to live in a fantasy land where no one needs cars and we all can walk everywhere.

That is not at all the point. The point is that linking a random incident of road range to a shortage of parking is a logical leap that makes no sense. There is road rage on highways, there is road rage on local roads, there is road rage in parking lots, there is pedestrian rage, there is bike rage and on and on.

Let's say we had unlimited parking for all the cars that could possibly fit in JC. Well now we probably have more peopele driving and still have road rage as people get in each other's way.

Using an incident like this and trying to link it back to the overall parking situation in JC is just one of the more obvious examples of completely illogical and flawed thinking by Yvonne and I was having fun with it.

JCMan8 wrote:

You're right, neither of those are logical responses. But they are emotional ones, and they will and do happen.

Luckily this is not a problem that affects me personally, but it is very foolish to deny the problem exists, or to live in a fantasy land where no one needs cars and we all can walk everywhere.

Yvonne wrote:
There should be a clause in the rebranding video, caution visiting or moving to JC will result in hours looking for parking spaces, tickets, booting and perhaps being labeled as a criminal. Visit with care, car owners.

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I had a woman threaten to beat my ass and put me in the hospital because I cut her off. While walking. I cut her off walking, apparently. So pedestrian rage does occur, particularly in Manhattan during rush hour. That's the only time it's happened to me, but I've witnessed it other times as well.

Well yes. But it wouldn't have been 'road rage' ;)

Ha! True. And I agree, assaulting someone is not a logical response to crowded streets or lack of parking. Or being "cutoff" while walking.

Yvonne wrote:
#1, Many people do not know about empty garages. #2 This article does not say it is downtown where garages you are referring to. #3, At the last council meeting a resident with her young daughter in her arms, complained about a 150 stories building with only 50 parking spaces. She said that leaves 100 possible cars on the street circling for parking. Moobycow, you live in denial. This is a serious problem and I hope the problem does not escalate where someone is seriously injured or dies. As it is, someone will probably go to jail over parking.
A friend of mine who works at the Hudson County Sheriff have told me when the county does its, "turn yourself in" program, 85% of these so-called criminals have crimes related to moving violations or other parking issues. We are making criminals out of citizens partially due to lack of parking spaces.

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JC_Livin wrote:
I had a woman threaten to beat my ass and put me in the hospital because I cut her off. While walking. I cut her off walking, apparently. So pedestrian rage does occur, particularly in Manhattan during rush hour. That's the only time it's happened to me, but I've witnessed it other times as well.

Well yes. But it wouldn't have been 'road rage' ;)