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Re: Muhammed Akil, All white people have a little Hilter in them
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Meh, it wasn't exhaustive. I already knew that fact. It's just infinitely delightful shutting down bigoted trolls like yourself who offer no intellectual value to any debate/argument/discussion aside from your constant "kill whitey" or "racist!!!" mantras. You, my friend, are the tired shill on this board.
Posted on: 2014/10/15 14:18
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Yes you win the argument , Panthers are well known for their spots, whence the famous expression.
Your exhaustive, in depth research on this subject (looked at wikipedia) has lifted the shades from my eyes. If I had been the victor in this important disagreement I too would have posted twice in my giddy, smug, inconsequential point-scoring delight. I'm not even defending Fulop, if you aren't a developer, restaurant/bar owner or an "artist" then you ain't getting shit from Fulop. And only then if you are downtown or in Journal Square. He's still a step above Healy, who was a nice enough guy, but looked after his own. Which brings us to the old guard shill - Sameastheoldboss. This argument is not served by a troll whose sole purpose of being on this board is to bash Fulop irregardless of evidence for or against him. I find the claim laughable that he gave twice to get Fulop elected, but has now changed his mind in such a vehement and vicious manner.
Posted on: 2014/10/15 13:59
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Fixed!
Posted on: 2014/10/15 12:39
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Yes, they do, genius. A panther is a black version of a leopard or a jaguar, depending on where it's from. When in proper light, you can see the spots: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_panther This is the level on intelligence we're dealing with here, JCers List. It's roughly between a rock and celery. And I'm being generous.
Posted on: 2014/10/15 12:32
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Panthers don't have spots, you ignorant pig.
Posted on: 2014/10/15 12:28
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You know what they say: A black panther never changes its spots...
Posted on: 2014/10/15 3:29
Edited by JCMan8 on 2014/10/15 3:45:23
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Huh?
Posted on: 2014/10/15 2:42
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'That is not who I am today' - according to Akil
Posted on: 2014/10/15 2:01
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Sorry about the stuffed a Jew in the oven comment, I guess my inner Hitler overcame me.
Posted on: 2014/10/15 0:59
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case. The issue here is the racist chief of staff who should be fired.
Posted on: 2014/10/15 0:08
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Yet wrote two checks to get Stephen Fulop elected, what was it that changed your mind about him, and how does your short turn around differ from Akil's lengthy one?
Posted on: 2014/10/14 15:21
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That guy's point is the double standard in forgiving sins of the past. He sees the Nazi guard as being punished for what he did when he was a "brainwashed 17 year old kid," when Akil's transgressions are far more recent with no punishment. Sameastheoldboss, no this is not a perfect strawman. I get your point but I think it is an unnecessarily inflammatory example that will distract from the main issue (because everyone will focus on the atrocities of the nazis). A better example is Paula Deen, who many (left wing) people still haven't forgiven because she dared to say the N word in the 80s. Look how she suffered as a result. And Google it and you'll find a million articles condemning her. I don't buy that Akil's radical racist views were a one time thing in 1995 either. First, the original article said he repeated his speech in 1998. Second, I believe he formed some racist organization and was invited to give the 1995 speech as a representative of his racist organization. That shows far more thought than a one off comment. Finally, we now have the rumors that Akil is only being kept on because Fulop used his fake charity as a political slush fund. As I said, I hope the appropriate people are investigating this, and this comes to light if true. Finally, a strawman is a logical fallacy. Again, it means you are putting words in someone's mouth so their position seems ridiculous. A correct usage of a strawman here would be if I said, by refusing to fire Akil, Fulop is declaring it's open season on white people!
Posted on: 2014/10/14 15:10
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Posted on: 2014/10/14 14:54
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Did I just build the perfect strawman JCMAN?
Posted on: 2014/10/14 14:53
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nyrgravey9 wrote: Wow, the backpeddling and double standard present here from some of you fools is astounding. Lord knows if (strawman alert Pebbles!!) Akil were a.) a white guy or b.) a republican, or c.) both; all of you clowns would have a field day until the jerk was fired. Don't believe me? See how many posts and ridiculous posts there are for something like Christie's Bridgegate non-scandal. Yes, it's a different topic, but the logic applies. He's a white Republican and some of you useful idiots dragged it on for hundreds and hundreds of posts when GASP, no evidence was found connecting him. Not a single shred. Yet some of you continue, because you guys "just know it" to be true! Akil should be fired because, again, under the logic of the crazy lefties on here, once a racist, always a racist. And Steve's skeletons need to be front and center in the news, not just his shiny marketing campaigns. Quote:
Posted on: 2014/10/14 14:33
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Nyrgravey9, I agree with your post but let's be clear that saying "If" does not make your statement a strawman. As my post explained, it makes it a hypothetical, commonly used in logical argument.
We could use a little less ignorance in the world. That means stemming the misinformation flow from people like Pebble who use words to sound smart when they have no clue what they mean. And that also includes booting a racist radical in Akil from a top post in JC government. Or if we can't get rid of him, to hold Fulop accountable. Finally, if this is true with Fulop making use of Akil's phony charity, I hope the right people are looking into it.
Posted on: 2014/10/14 13:18
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Wow, the backpeddling and double standard present here from some of you fools is astounding. Lord knows if (strawman alert Pebbles!!) Akil were a.) a white guy or b.) a republican, or c.) both; all of you clowns would have a field day until the jerk was fired.
Don't believe me? See how many posts and ridiculous posts there are for something like Christie's Bridgegate non-scandal. Yes, it's a different topic, but the logic applies. He's a white Republican and some of you useful idiots dragged it on for hundreds and hundreds of posts when GASP, no evidence was found connecting him. Not a single shred. Yet some of you continue, because you guys "just know it" to be true!
Akil should be fired because, again, under the logic of the crazy lefties on here, once a racist, always a racist. And Steve's skeletons need to be front and center in the news, not just his shiny marketing campaigns.
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Posted on: 2014/10/14 12:42
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sameastheoldboss wrote: [quote] Mohammed Akil is a racist who preached a message of hatred. Yes or no?
Posted on: 2014/10/14 10:25
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Never commented on a topic before because nothing was interesting before. I wrote two checks to Steve and my name is on his election report. Why would I worry about a libel suit when I am basing my opinion of documents that are readily available for your viewing pleasure. Mohammed Akil is a racist who preached a message of hatred. Yes or no? Mohammed Akil is Mayor Fulop's Chief of Staff who enjoys a 120k taxpayer funded salary with Cadillac benefits. Yes or no? Mohammed Akil co-founded MTR with Richard Moon and they continued to solicit funds after their 501 was revoked. Yes or no? Mohammed Akil was appointed Mayor Fulop's COS as a reward for helping deliver Ward F. Yes or no? John Theiroff, a brilliant individual now sits on the board of MTR. Yes or no? Various donations are made to MTR throughout the campaign which is being managed by John Theiroff. Yes or no? John Theiroff now sits on the board of the MUA and some of MTR's biggest donors are granted huge contracts with the MUA. Yes or no? Mohammed Akil solicits funds to assist needy children but specifically requests the checks be made out to JCY. Yes or no? JCY is run by Veronica park who conveniently moonlights as Fulop's campaign finance chairperson. Yes or no? Mayor Fulop who is more than media savvy refuses to fire Akil even though cutting ties with Akil was absolutely the best move to save his political future. Yes or no? Why would a citizen have any fear of retaliation for petitioning his or her government for answers to disturbing questions?
Posted on: 2014/10/14 5:20
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So.
To all the newly minted jclisters like sameastheoldboss. Personally I don't mind holding politicians and public servants accountable. If any of them break laws - then yes - absolutely let's hold their asses to a flame. But I've got to ask - why did you guys decide to crawl out from under your rocks on this specific issue? Are you posting anonymously to avoid litigation for libel and slander? And you're bullshitting us when you posted that you originally donated to Fulop but changed your mind. Right? I might disagree with folks like Yvonne - but Yvonne has a track record. Sometimes right. Sometimes wrong. But she's honest in her views and has my respect for that.
Posted on: 2014/10/14 2:14
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Yup this is what it's all about. Nothing about a career fraud who happens to be a radical racist with a sham charity Fulop, Theiroff, and Park use as a slush fund. Who paid for the Coronation by the way? That extravagant display of arrogance must have been very expensive.
Posted on: 2014/10/13 15:03
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I call bringing it up in the first place rationalization for people not wanting a minority in a position of power.
Posted on: 2014/10/13 13:25
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Posted on: 2014/10/13 5:54
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A good reporter could get a lot of mileage out of this. Why is this story not all over nj.com Terrance? You know there's lots of digging to be done and this could be the one to put you over the top. Get in there and dig boy dig.
Posted on: 2014/10/13 4:19
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The phrase "MoreThan a Race" can be found as a film showcasing ultra runners, as a book about speed cycling across America and also used to describe many other "Ironman" events around the world. Akil himself is an ultra -marathoner. Just wondering whether there may be a copyright issue regarding use of the name for Akils group.
Posted on: 2014/10/12 20:29
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Mayor Fulop's Chief of Staff Muhammed Akil's has used his "More than a Race" foundation in order to solicit funds from firms doing business with the city, Akil did not solicit these firms into making donations to his MTR Foundation but instead asked donations be made out to the"Jersey City Youth Foundation" (JYF). JYF is managed by Veronica Park, Ms. Park is Mayor Fulop's long time campaign treasurer/financial overseer.
http://www.ml.com/media/49828.pdf This is the link to the ethical guidelines all Merrill Lynch employees must abide by, page 4 attached below is of particular interest because it particularly references participation of employees in "non profit organizations"(such as the Jersey City Youth Foundation). Merrill Lynch requires the following conduct from their employees: #1- Merrill Lynch directors and employees must avoid engaging in any outside business or other activity that might create a conflict of interest, create a perception of impropriety or jeopardize the company's integrity or reputation. A conflict of interest occurs when your personal interest interferes ? or even appears to interfere ?with the interests of Merrill Lynch. Every Merrill Lynch person must avoid activities, interests or associations that might interfere, or even appear to interfere, with the independent exercise of good judgment in the conduct of his or her duties or with the best interest of our company, our clients, or our shareholders. #2- Merrill Lynch employees must report all outside business activities to their managers and to the Office of General Counsel so a review for potential conflicts of interest and other concerns can be conducted. Outside business activities and interests include among other things: serving as a board member, trustee or officer of a non-profit organization, such as a charity, foundation, or university. #3- To comply with applicable regulations, most outside activities and interests must be pre-approved. Additional information concerning employee outside activities and investments can be found in the ML & Co., Inc. Policy Manual and business group policies. PAGE 4 of MERRILL LYNCH ETHICS REQUIREMENTS FOR EMPLOYEES: Conflicts of Interest Avoid conflicts of interest in performing your duties and seek advice of management and the Office of General Counsel when any actual or potential conflicts arise. Merrill Lynch directors and employees must avoid engaging in any outside business or other activity that might create a conflict of interest, create a perception of impropriety or jeopardize the company's integrity or reputation. A conflict of interest occurs when your personal interest interferes ? or even appears to interfere ?with the interests of Merrill Lynch. Every Merrill Lynch person must avoid activities, interests or associations that might interfere, or even appear to interfere, with the independent exercise of good judgment in the conduct of his or her duties or with the best interests of our company, our clients, or our shareholders. While it is impossible to foresee every potential conflict that could arise, all Merrill Lynch persons must be sensitive to potential conflicts, bring them to the attention of management, the Office of General Counsel or the Board of Directors and avoid them where possible. If a conflict cannot be avoided, it must be managed in an ethical, responsible manner and so as not to create the perception of impropriety. Employee Outside Business Activities and Interests Merrill Lynch employees must report all outside business activities to their managers and to the Office of General Counsel so a review for potential conflicts of interest and other concerns can be conducted. Outside business activities and interests include among other things, participating as a partner in another business, ownership of stock in a privately-owned business, holding limited partnership interests, serving as an officer in a family-owned corporation, acting as an outside director of another company, or serving as a board member, trustee or officer of a non-profit organization, such as a charity, foundation, or university. The appropriateness of a Merrill Lynch employee engaging in these and other types of outside business activities, interests or investment opportunities depends upon many factors, including the nature and extent of the outside interest, the potential for conflicts of interest, and the relationship between Merrill Lynch and the outside entities and the duties involved. To comply with applicable regulations, most outside activities and interests must be pre-approved. Additional information concerning employee outside activities and investments can be found in the ML & Co., Inc. Policy Manual and business group policies. For example, service by any Merrill Lynch employee as a director, officer or employee of any other corporation or business must be authorized in writing by the Office of General Counsel. Unless approved in writing as provided in the ML & Co. Policy Manual, no Merrill Lynch employee may serve as a director of a publicly traded company. Employees must keep their manager apprised of these activities and provide updated information on the Compliance Disclosure form on the Employee Activity Review System (?EARS?) at least annually. The EARS information will be monitored by the employee?s manager and by compliance personnel. Directors of Merrill Lynch should inform the Corporate Secretary prior to accepting appointments to the boards of directors or advisory boards of any public or privately held company. 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Posted on: 2014/10/12 19:55
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Typically large companies, especially in finance have ethics requirement for employees to disclose if they serve on outside boards etc. to avoid conflicts of interest.
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Posted on: 2014/10/12 13:26
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I view it for what it is - sarcasm and rhetoric from someone with sand in their crotch.
Posted on: 2014/10/12 13:15
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Perhaps we should consult with the self-proclaimed smartest man on the planet.
Mr. DTJCVIEW, would soliciting donations with a revoked 501c under the pretense of saving at risk inner city children and diverting the money into Steve's campaign war chest be considered unethical, illegal, or just good government in action?
Posted on: 2014/10/12 12:45
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