Vigilante wrote:
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WhoElseCouldIBe wrote:
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Vigilante wrote:
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RUinHamiltonPark wrote:
I say build and then build some more.

This is Jersey CITY not Parsippany or Bridgewater or something. You want that, fine, that is the beauty of NJ, MOVE THERE.

Cities are not bedroom communities. This isn't the place with white picket fences and wide open spaces. This is an URBAN area right across from the most populous city in the country.

I love all these comments about the PATH. JC doesn't control the PATH. So I guess until the PATH behaves reasonably we should stop all development? And you think this is the place Whole Foods or Trader Joes or anyone will come?

Also the park comments are equally ridiculous. Are the parks too crowded? Does any town or city owe anyone a park? If the myriad of parks are not enough, for what you could spend in Van Vorst or Hamilton, by all means by a house on half an acre or more elsewhere.

There, live the dream of the NJ BANANA (build almost nothing at all near anybody). MOM line in Central Jersey? Hell no! Cell phone tower so people can call 911? Hello no! Affordable housing to comply with state law? NO, more lawsuits so our taxes can be higher! My 2013 McMansion will not have its view spoiled by your 2015 McMansion! Rally with me, neighbors from Staten Island and Brooklyn! Bring your attitudes, your self-righteousness! Our parks are stressed, damn it!

In reality, I used to live across the street from there. That area could use a convenience store and a pharmacy that actually open regularly...this project, and a crossing as proposed...are in fact an absolute boon for that neighborhood. That's the facts. Now make a pedestrian crossway at the tunnel and then we are talking.

Well why don't you move into midtown Manhattan? If you like tall buildings and crowds then that would be perfect for you.

If you don't like tall buildings and growth, then why don't you move out of JC?

Don't worry. Where I live there will be no high-rises.

DanL wrote:
the Hamilton Park Association's monthly meeting is the first Wednesday of each month, the same date as this meeting about the development in the Hamilton Park area.

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CandiceOsborne wrote:
Hi all -

I posted this on my last newsletter, but wanted to post it here as well.

This proposed project has two components:

1) changes to the redevelopment plan
2) a plan for a proposed building

As a part of a pilot to get more community feedback in items that come before city council, I am hosting a community meeting on this project on Wednesday night at 6 p.m. at City Hall in Council Chambers. I will be asking the community for feedback after the meeting.

Best,
Candice

CandiceOsborne wrote:
Hi all -

I posted this on my last newsletter, but wanted to post it here as well.

This proposed project has two components:

1) changes to the redevelopment plan
2) a plan for a proposed building

As a part of a pilot to get more community feedback in items that come before city council, I am hosting a community meeting on this project on Wednesday night at 6 p.m. at City Hall in Council Chambers. I will be asking the community for feedback after the meeting.

Best,
Candice

WhoElseCouldIBe wrote:
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Vigilante wrote:
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RUinHamiltonPark wrote:
I say build and then build some more.

This is Jersey CITY not Parsippany or Bridgewater or something. You want that, fine, that is the beauty of NJ, MOVE THERE.

Cities are not bedroom communities. This isn't the place with white picket fences and wide open spaces. This is an URBAN area right across from the most populous city in the country.

I love all these comments about the PATH. JC doesn't control the PATH. So I guess until the PATH behaves reasonably we should stop all development? And you think this is the place Whole Foods or Trader Joes or anyone will come?

Also the park comments are equally ridiculous. Are the parks too crowded? Does any town or city owe anyone a park? If the myriad of parks are not enough, for what you could spend in Van Vorst or Hamilton, by all means by a house on half an acre or more elsewhere.

There, live the dream of the NJ BANANA (build almost nothing at all near anybody). MOM line in Central Jersey? Hell no! Cell phone tower so people can call 911? Hello no! Affordable housing to comply with state law? NO, more lawsuits so our taxes can be higher! My 2013 McMansion will not have its view spoiled by your 2015 McMansion! Rally with me, neighbors from Staten Island and Brooklyn! Bring your attitudes, your self-righteousness! Our parks are stressed, damn it!

In reality, I used to live across the street from there. That area could use a convenience store and a pharmacy that actually open regularly...this project, and a crossing as proposed...are in fact an absolute boon for that neighborhood. That's the facts. Now make a pedestrian crossway at the tunnel and then we are talking.

Well why don't you move into midtown Manhattan? If you like tall buildings and crowds then that would be perfect for you.

If you don't like tall buildings and growth, then why don't you move out of JC?

RUinHamiltonPark wrote:
I say build and then build some more.

Vigilante wrote:
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RUinHamiltonPark wrote:
I say build and then build some more.

This is Jersey CITY not Parsippany or Bridgewater or something. You want that, fine, that is the beauty of NJ, MOVE THERE.

Cities are not bedroom communities. This isn't the place with white picket fences and wide open spaces. This is an URBAN area right across from the most populous city in the country.

I love all these comments about the PATH. JC doesn't control the PATH. So I guess until the PATH behaves reasonably we should stop all development? And you think this is the place Whole Foods or Trader Joes or anyone will come?

Also the park comments are equally ridiculous. Are the parks too crowded? Does any town or city owe anyone a park? If the myriad of parks are not enough, for what you could spend in Van Vorst or Hamilton, by all means by a house on half an acre or more elsewhere.

There, live the dream of the NJ BANANA (build almost nothing at all near anybody). MOM line in Central Jersey? Hell no! Cell phone tower so people can call 911? Hello no! Affordable housing to comply with state law? NO, more lawsuits so our taxes can be higher! My 2013 McMansion will not have its view spoiled by your 2015 McMansion! Rally with me, neighbors from Staten Island and Brooklyn! Bring your attitudes, your self-righteousness! Our parks are stressed, damn it!

In reality, I used to live across the street from there. That area could use a convenience store and a pharmacy that actually open regularly...this project, and a crossing as proposed...are in fact an absolute boon for that neighborhood. That's the facts. Now make a pedestrian crossway at the tunnel and then we are talking.

Well why don't you move into midtown Manhattan? If you like tall buildings and crowds then that would be perfect for you.

RUinHamiltonPark wrote:
I say build and then build some more.

This is Jersey CITY not Parsippany or Bridgewater or something. You want that, fine, that is the beauty of NJ, MOVE THERE.

Cities are not bedroom communities. This isn't the place with white picket fences and wide open spaces. This is an URBAN area right across from the most populous city in the country.

I love all these comments about the PATH. JC doesn't control the PATH. So I guess until the PATH behaves reasonably we should stop all development? And you think this is the place Whole Foods or Trader Joes or anyone will come?

Also the park comments are equally ridiculous. Are the parks too crowded? Does any town or city owe anyone a park? If the myriad of parks are not enough, for what you could spend in Van Vorst or Hamilton, by all means by a house on half an acre or more elsewhere.

There, live the dream of the NJ BANANA (build almost nothing at all near anybody). MOM line in Central Jersey? Hell no! Cell phone tower so people can call 911? Hello no! Affordable housing to comply with state law? NO, more lawsuits so our taxes can be higher! My 2013 McMansion will not have its view spoiled by your 2015 McMansion! Rally with me, neighbors from Staten Island and Brooklyn! Bring your attitudes, your self-righteousness! Our parks are stressed, damn it!

In reality, I used to live across the street from there. That area could use a convenience store and a pharmacy that actually open regularly...this project, and a crossing as proposed...are in fact an absolute boon for that neighborhood. That's the facts. Now make a pedestrian crossway at the tunnel and then we are talking.

Vigilante wrote:
I have watched Hamilton Park become completely overrun. Might be time to level the ball fields in Enos Jones Park and build something the entire community can use. The least the city could do is unlock the ball fields so EVERYONE can use them.

Binky wrote:
Actually, when I moved in to my house 15 years ago there was no net increase in the number of people living here.
It is the people who have moved into the new construction who have increased the population. And it is the poor planning of the new construction and the necessary infrastructure that is the issue here.

SilveryJessica wrote:
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Yes. Those of us who moved here 15 years ago didn't buy new construction. We replaced outgoing residents. We didn't contribute to the surge in population, congestion, FILTH, crime, etc. Yes, there are wonderful new shops, restaurants, cultural options that didn't exist and I appreciate those, but the fact remains that the people who came here initially and paved the way for all the other more recent growth didn't want density. We wanted what JC had at that time which was convenience without the assault on our personal space that living here has become. One of the attractions of living here was the fact that you didn't have to kill someone to get on or off a train, listen to horns honking on the streets, get knocked over on the effing sidewalk when a bike came charging at you, etcetera. Living here was pleasant and quiet, and it isn't any longer. Yes, the changes have come with associated benefits too, but the lifestyle that a lot of people moved here for is gone.

hero69 wrote:
LSP is just not useable for most of us. I usually take the PATH across the river for parks which israther sad given all the development. JCC nneeds long term, strateggic thinking/developmment

Binky wrote:
Actually, when I moved in to my house 15 years ago there was no net increase in the number of people living here.
It is the people who have moved into the new construction who have increased the population. And it is the poor planning of the new construction and the necessary infrastructure that is the issue here.