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It's Newark Avenue and C. Columbus DRIVE, not avenue. When did the name change from Christopher Columbus Drive to just Columbus Drive? JC Traffic and Engineering has left off Christopher on the street signs at the intersections.
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Jesus Christ, it isn't stupid to the hundreds of Filipino families who live there and feel good about it. There is a park and a monument to the Filipino war veterans there, too...should we just tear that down? How does the existence of Manila Avenue existing for twelve blocks impact your life adversely in ANY way? God, get over yourself.
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Another old photo showing what used to be at Grove Pointe about 100 years ago:
http://www.jerseycitythenandnow.com/2 ... oad-ave-columbus-ave.html
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And here is an interesting, 100 years old, photo showing a busy street scene and the buildings where Grove Point is now standing: http://www.jerseycitythenandnow.com/2 ... grove-st-grove-point.html Quote:
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Here's the photo set I was thinking of. Vintage Jersey City: http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/wavz13/sets/72157622579761251/
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These are pics of the WTC site and JC waterfront from the 60s. Might be a Grove Point pic in there.
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/wavz13/4258830687/
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That would explain the "100% American" backdrop. Goddamn commie beatniks. 
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This was during the war on communism era, this was a huge deal back then...hmmm somethings never change.
Posted on: 2013/2/15 22:07
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I think it's WOR, the radio station. Note the "MUTUAL" on the microphone -- WOR was in the Mutual radio network, according to Wikipedia, from 1934 to 1957. I would like to know the story behind the photo. User111, do you have any insight? Thanks.
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What is WOP?
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Yes, I remember and miss Tio Tony's ... terrific rice and beans and chicken. I also remember a bank of 3 telelphone booths across the street of the PATH right when you got out ... would be where the entrance to Duane Reade is now. It was the first thing you saw coming up the escalator of the PATH.
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From the photographs I've seen, the tracks slowly sloped down to a level grade with the street, somewhere after the Grove St. PATH. If the tracks were still there, that would all be dead space. Also, because of the tracks, CC Blvd is unusually wide. Just after the tracks were taken down, cars would park on that street head-first. Even with larger 70's cars, there was still plenty of room for two lanes of traffic.
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I liked Unlimited Pizza. I once walked out of the liquor store immediately after getting $11.57 in change, about 40 feet outside a bum sitting down asked me if I had .57 cents to spare...."Uhhh, yes sir I do". It wondered for a while how he did that, and even more why I was too astonished to ask how he knew. The building where the liquor store and pizza place was is still there next to the Duane Reade. At the time I remember (03-04) there were abandoned row houses and empty lots where the footprint of Grove point is now. There is a great pic or two of the area in one of the Jersey City images of America books.
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What I miss most pre Grove Pointe was the view of Manhattan walking down Newark towards the Path. Granted, that view changed even before it went up, but still.
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Poncho11 - I got a kick out of your post where you refer to Dunkin Donuts as "Duncan" Donuts... as in Duncan Ave. You truly have Jersey City on the mind. 
Posted on: 2013/2/13 19:14
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http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/13158
Here's some more information on the area. There was a theatre where the Gregory Apartments were built and Newark Avenue, Warren and Montgomery met. One thing that I would like to see downtown is a small movie theatre - first Whole Foods, but then Whole Films. I think the McDonald's was a dress shop - Dorenstein's.
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1960-70 In that area you had Murray Walters mens store, where Caldwell Banker now stands. You had Hudson Camera, before they moved over. A large Medical practice was there before Duncan Donuts. Next to those stores was a Parking Lot
and then Waldsteins Mens Store.I can't remember who was before the parking lot at this moment. Most people will not remember the JC Tobacco company. They sold all the local stores there merchandise, Candy, Tobacco products. They were on the Morgan Street side of the Further on CC was a Salvation Army type place with apts. and then Church Chicken and then it became a parking lot. Also, to the left on the Salvation Army was a Check cashing business for years .J.C Tobacco actually did take up a large frontage on Newark Ave, but I remember the trucks in the rear. Murray Walters was sold to the owner of Morlees and then moved. Then on the Henderson street side you had some tenement buildings. Tio Pepe came way later. The Duncan DoNuts must be there 18 years at least.The Gym came in after JC Tobacco closed.
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I kind of wish the elevated tracks were still there on Columbus, it would make the streetscape more interesting than it is now in my opinion.
Posted on: 2013/2/13 15:40
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Until somewhat recently, the images on Google Maps still showed the pre-Grove Pointe overview for the Grove PATH Plaza. If you install Google Earth, you can see historical images to get an idea of what things looked at other time periods. Most of the older satellite images are rather low-resolution, but the 2004 pictures give a pretty clear view of the buildings that were there before:
 Download the application here: http://www.google.com/earth/ Oh, also... looking back at the Stinky Bridge, you can see some of the iterations of it over time, all the way up to the current view of it washed up on the shore. Kind of sad.
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I moved to Jersey City 10 or 11 years ago and one of my first memories was of a place by the area Grove Pointe is now called "Tio Tony's" or something similar.
I went into the place around 8 PM near closing and asked for a menu, the owner said, "It's your first time here" and proceeded to give us a bag of ALL of their leftovers for the day for free. Next time I went a few weeks later they'd already closed. Looking back it was still one of the nicest things a restaurant owner has done for me, always felt bad that they closed.
Posted on: 2013/2/13 10:33
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Here is a photo from the 1940s of the Marin Blvd side of where Grove Point is now standing. Not a single one of the buildings in the old photo are standing today.
Already in the 1940s, many of the buildings were boarded up and empty. That was the start of JCs gradual decline that continued until the 1990s. http://www.jerseycitythenandnow.com/2 ... ilroad-ave-aka-marin.html And from the photo album in Dahood's link, this is a fascinating photo of Columbus Ave across from where Grove Point is now standing. When this photo was taken, they were dismantling the elevated Railroad that gave Railroad Ave it's name : http://www.flickr.com/photos/wavz13/7 ... /in/set-72157622579761251
Posted on: 2013/2/13 4:05
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I found this from another thread on JCList some time back, but cannot remember what thread it was. Worth checking out.
Vintage Jersey City
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Was there a trolley that extended Newark ave toward the water into Paulus Hook area ?
Posted on: 2013/2/13 2:21
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The RENT-ALL video store was open super duper late on the weekends (new extended hours from (:30 to 10 pm!!!!!) and required you give them proof of your social security number to rent there.
The street going through was only for buses. I remember a guy getting shot there. It was a pretty grim looking place. Quote:
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soshin: Mention guns and bd pops up through a hole in the ground like a heavily armed meercat
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I remember (maybe 97?) when Video Rent All (formerly of Railroad/Columbus - now Red Feast Liquor Store) used to be over where the main door of Grove Point is. That place was reminded of the adult stores in and around Times Sq with the people "hanging out" there...minus the live entertainment. I believe there was some sort of always closed Italian or Portuguese restaurant next door...
That area is a hell of a lot better than it was in the mid to late 90's. The few Images of America books on Jersey City provide really interesting photos of all of JC (specifically downtown) and are worth checking out.
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Amen, brother!
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This is what I heard... No idea if it is 100% true... They used to be row houses. Back in the '70's (or something like that) there was a nursing shortage in JC so a ton of Filipino nurses and nursing students came over from the Philippines to work and train at the now closed St. Francis Hospital on Hamilton Park (now condos). The "ugly" homes were built to house the nurses, etc. That would explain the "Manila Ave".
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I'm all for a 100% moratorium on re-naming streets in Jersey City and on sub-designating certain blocks, unless doing so means fewer errors in the mail and fewer confused out of towners. The existence of "Manila Ave" is stupid. So is the existence of five discontiguous sections of Pavonia Ave.
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I remember one year, I was sitting there talking with a friend just hanging out, watching the drunks be drunks and this one older wineo was walking around and collecting (stealing?) christmas decorations to decorate one of the bushes there. After he was satisfied with it, he goes "Look at what I did, now give me a diploma!"
Posted on: 2013/2/12 23:03
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I arrived in the Grove Street area in April '06, and I think the pizza place/liquor store where the Duane Reade is were torn down already by that point, is that correct?
Wow, there was a ShopRite where the Mack Cali building is on the corner of Marin and Columbus? Speaking of "what used to be there", does anybody recall when that stretch of ugly houses on Manila were built? What was there before?
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