mwa7368 wrote:
Maybe we can write council to propose that the area west the the Turnpike get officially re-written as non-downtown on the basis that the socio-economic, culture and education level differ to greatly and it skews the crime statistics of the area most consider downtown.

regulator wrote:
agreed, the residents (including those posting on this site) are free to call it whatever they want. i doubt the residents of the area in question refer to it as 'downtown' anyway. but when someone makes a categorically incorrect statement (i.e. the city does not consider it as downtown either), then the statement should be corrected

regulator wrote:
agreed, the residents (including those posting on this site) are free to call it whatever they want. i doubt the residents of the area in question refer to it as 'downtown' anyway. but when someone makes a categorically incorrect statement (i.e. the city does not consider it as downtown either), then the statement should be corrected

Bogart wrote: My point is that it doesn't matter if some areas west of the highway are "officially" downtown. That's not how people here use the term or how they understand it. Would it make any real difference if every time someone says "Downtown JC" we add an asterisk that says "excluding those blocks west of the highway that don't really fit in any officially defined neighborhood? Most of the area in question is rail yards and cemetery anyway.

regulator wrote:
if you want something more 'official', look at the map that separates the city into wards:

http://www.jerseycityindependent.com/ ... /06/jersey-city-ward-map/

i wonder if the people in the projects voted for fulop - that'd be a hoot... oh wait they probably didnt vote at all right?

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as much as the new residents hate to admit it Booker T is part of Downtown whether you want to consider it or not.

You can "define" downtown any way you please, but most people here use the term to refer to the part of town east of the highway and south of the tunnel.

Click on Historic Downtown and notice the borders. It is not just me and the residents that grew up in Downtown, the city defines it as Downtown as well.

http://www.destinationjerseycity.com/maps.php

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as much as the new residents hate to admit it Booker T is part of Downtown whether you want to consider it or not.

You can "define" downtown any way you please, but most people here use the term to refer to the part of town east of the highway and south of the tunnel.

as much as the new residents hate to admit it Booker T is part of Downtown whether you want to consider it or not.

Vigilante wrote:
Ironic that the Hoboken murder was commited by a JC resident?

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JerseyCityNj wrote: This is a map of all the homicides in NJ for 2009. It is updated everytime another occurs.
View New Jersey Murder Map 2009 in a larger map

So this shows that Downtown and the Heights are really about as safe as Hoboken - however the other areas of JC on the other hand seem out of control... Now I'm sure someone will say that the Beacon area is really Downtown but I think most people feel that downtown really ends at the turnpike overpass...

LOL...Hoboken has no murders, and the Heights has one so far. If we are just talking about murders how do you get this shows it is as safe as Hoboken, when Downtown has four so far? Like I said in my other post the hit and run was accidentally put on the wrong corner of Grand and as much as the new residents hate to admit it Booker T is part of Downtown whether you want to consider it or not. So when counting murders your neighborhood is actually even with Greenville and Bergen-Lafayette so far this year. But in all fairness murders can go up in even the nicest suburb with almost no crime. They don't reflect overall crime.

Spoken like someone from greenville or bergen-lafayette.

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JerseyCityNj wrote: This is a map of all the homicides in NJ for 2009. It is updated everytime another occurs.
View New Jersey Murder Map 2009 in a larger map

So this shows that Downtown and the Heights are really about as safe as Hoboken - however the other areas of JC on the other hand seem out of control... Now I'm sure someone will say that the Beacon area is really Downtown but I think most people feel that downtown really ends at the turnpike overpass...

LOL...Hoboken has no murders, and the Heights has one so far. If we are just talking about murders how do you get this shows it is as safe as Hoboken, when Downtown has four so far? Like I said in my other post the hit and run was accidentally put on the wrong corner of Grand and as much as the new residents hate to admit it Booker T is part of Downtown whether you want to consider it or not. So when counting murders your neighborhood is actually even with Greenville and Bergen-Lafayette so far this year. But in all fairness murders can go up in even the nicest suburb with almost no crime. They don't reflect overall crime.

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JerseyCityNj wrote: This is a map of all the homicides in NJ for 2009. It is updated everytime another occurs.
View New Jersey Murder Map 2009 in a larger map

So this shows that Downtown and the Heights are really about as safe as Hoboken - however the other areas of JC on the other hand seem out of control... Now I'm sure someone will say that the Beacon area is really Downtown but I think most people feel that downtown really ends at the turnpike overpass...

matt07302 wrote:
The woman killed in a 'hit and run' at Monmouth and Grand is not on the map.

chaos1971 wrote:
Downtown definately ends at the NJTPK overpass.

JerseyCityNj wrote: This is a map of all the homicides in NJ for 2009. It is updated everytime another occurs.
View New Jersey Murder Map 2009 in a larger map