StevenFulop wrote:
I would just like to give you an update on where things stand with this issue. I have been working with John Yurchak (Director of DPW), Captain McDonough (East District Police), and the Parking Authority. What we have come up with is this:

1. A stop sign will be placed on Erie at 3rd Street.
2. A stop sign will be placed on Erie at 7th Street.
3. The Parking Authority will be stepping up enforcement on parking at the curbs.
4. Crosswalks will be repainted.

Additionally, the blinking light on Erie at 10th Street might be switched to a standard traffic light in the near future.

The East District will also continue to keep an eye on speeding in the area.

This is a good start. The area will be monitored to see if this is effective or more is needed. This is very important as it relates to the changing needs of the area and its residents.

Sincerely,

Steven Fulop
Councilman Ward ?E?

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alb wrote:

I don't think letting cars turn from Newark onto Erie is a big deal, but it seems to me that letting cars go from Barrow to Erie messes up traffic in a lot of different ways.

Agreed. If you stand and watch cars on Erie Street down by the police hq, you will see that the majority of cars are
barrelling up out of Barrow.

One of the new, large, fluorescent Green pedestrian crossing signs is lying on the floor outside my house.

alb wrote:



So, the council member essentially said it's OK for motorists to roar up Erie and keep going (at least up to Third or Fourth Street) whether there are pedestrians in the crosswalks right in front of police headquarters or not.

To me, it seems as if one of the best ways to fix the problem would be to ban cars from going from Barrow to Erie.

I don't think letting cars turn from Newark onto Erie is a big deal, but it seems to me that letting cars go from Barrow to Erie messes up traffic in a lot of different ways.

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Robocub wrote:

I hope the crossing guard is OK and I hope she sues the driver who hit her. I thank her every time I see her out there.

I wonder if there's a way to sue the city to get it to enforce traffic laws.

If you sue them for that also make sure to also make them fix all those damn potholes in downtown. Like all of f%$#@!# downtown is filled with pot holes especially around the Grand St area.

Robocub wrote:
I didn't see the actual accident but I must have just arrived right after. THere were about 6 JC police officers. Two cars were pulled over. It was hard to tell what had happened. I assumed it was a vehicle accident. WHen I passed the police on the sidewalk I looked down and saw blood droplets all over the sidewalk, in front of the Mall side. I got nervous thinking what could have happened after that.

This has to be a huge wakeup call about this goddam death trap waiting to happen. Or does the JC city council and PD actually need someone to die first before anything is done about this traffic nightmare.

I hope the crossing guard is OK and I hope she sues the driver who hit her. I thank her every time I see her out there.

Frankly I'd love to see a bridge built to cross over the roadway, but don't stop there. I'd like that bridge to go all the way over the Mall and terminate on the other side near the Path entrance. That way I wont have to cross that death trap of a road and walk through that wretched Mall ever again.

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Robocub wrote:

I hope the crossing guard is OK and I hope she sues the driver who hit her. I thank her every time I see her out there.

I wonder if there's a way to sue the city to get it to enforce traffic laws.

Robocub wrote:

I hope the crossing guard is OK and I hope she sues the driver who hit her. I thank her every time I see her out there.

Vigilante wrote:
Thank God this woman is not dead. The driver should get more then a summons and now maybe the City/JCPD will do something about our Third World like traffic problems. Now that somebody has been hurt of course!

jclxz wrote:
How about the crosswalk on Marin by 9th st? It is illegal to drive across the crosswalk if there is a pedestrian ANYWHERE in the crosswalk. And yet I can't even get cars to stop if they would hit me without me jumping out of the way.

I would really rather see our police resources used to fight real danger. Rolling stops aren't a real problem. Total disregard for stop signs, crosswalks, and flashing red lights (which mean the same as a stop sign!) is what creates a real danger.

I would like our police department to create a reputation that they will act to stop dangerous and illegal activities. The roads are so messed up here that you can't drive a mile without committing 10 infractions. But even enforcing the egregious ones would send a strong message.

When the light at 8th and Marin goes to flashing red at 11pm, NO ONE stops. Such is the level of respect for traffic laws.

I don't want to see people given tickets because they slowed to 1mph instead of a stop sign instead of stopped all the way. Not when this is actually SAFE behavior in comparison to what I experience every day here.

ripple wrote:
I think increased enforcement of existing stop signs makes way more sense than putting in new ones. Here's my master plan; can be adapted for any intersection but I'm using the one that affects me the most:

Step #1: Put plainclothes officer on foot at the corner of Wayne and Barrow

Step #2: Park patrol cruiser on Columbus at corner of Columbus and Barrow

Step #3: Every time a car rolls through the stop sign at Wayne & Barrow instead of coming to a complete stop (about 85% of the time), plainclothes radios to the patrol cruiser.

Step #4: Profit

Step #5: More $$ for more of this type of enforcement around downtown

Step #6: Downtown Jersey City develops a reputation amongst commuters as having some of the most draconian traffic enforcement around

Step #7: Commuters avoid downtown streets

Step #8: Downtown becomes much safer for pedestrians

ripple wrote:
I think increased enforcement of existing stop signs makes way more sense than putting in new ones. Here's my master plan; can be adapted for any intersection but I'm using the one that affects me the most:

Step #1: Put plainclothes officer on foot at the corner of Wayne and Barrow

Step #2: Park patrol cruiser on Columbus at corner of Columbus and Barrow

Step #3: Every time a car rolls through the stop sign at Wayne & Barrow instead of coming to a complete stop (about 85% of the time), plainclothes radios to the patrol cruiser.

Step #4: Profit

Step #5: More $$ for more of this type of enforcement around downtown

Step #6: Downtown Jersey City develops a reputation amongst commuters as having some of the most draconian traffic enforcement around

Step #7: Commuters avoid downtown streets

Step #8: Downtown becomes much safer for pedestrians

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today, another near miss at 3rd and Erie due to a speeding vehicle on Erie.

The hummer/jeep thing on Erie and the little sedan crossing on third?

today, another near miss at 3rd and Erie due to a speeding vehicle on Erie.

r_pinkowitz wrote:
Althea,

No stop sign or Traffic signal can be legally installed without D.O.T. approval. In order for the D.O.T. to give approval the ordinance for the need of these devices must be written and approved by JC Council.

Althea wrote:
Uh, where did you hear the DOT denied an application? This is news to me. Could you expand on that? It is very unusual for the Traffic Division to draw up an ordinance when the State inspector has given the thumbs down.

This is sad and shocking news to find they have been so irresponsible. I'm assuming this is fact, correct?

Could you expand on what you called to find out about and share you findings here? I am sure most of us would like to hear the full story.