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Re: Liberty Harbor - thoughts?
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jennymayla wrote:

While I reject this thread since it is all based on FRAUD, I still want to respond...

LHN is a casual walk to the Grove PATH station. Like 8 minutes tops. Plus on a nice day, it's a great walk to the Exchange PATH. And what's wrong with having to take the light rail if you don't feel like walking?

As for the neighborhood, it is literally across the street from an already-booming neighborhood called Van Vorst Park, and it borders another booming neighborhood called Paulus Hook.

Okay, so some of the new fancytown elements of LHN might be under construction for a while, but it's incorrect to position it like it's in the boonies or an underdeveloped location.

I have heard similar complaints about the sales people though. Lots of people have been turned off by them, which is a shame.


While I didn't mean to imply that LHN was in the boonies, it is too isolated for my tastes at $500k+ for a 1BR unit.

It may be a great walk to Exchange on a pleasant morning from LHN, but if you have to make that walk every night in the Winter it's not much fun... I did it for years from Essex & Warren St. and on cold days w/the always heavy winds it can be surprisingly difficult. Many such nights I had to stop for relief, in the form of a glass of Jameson's, at the Light Horse, otherwise I'd have never made it home

I've commuted into Manhattan from the burbs (car to park & ride, bus to Port Authority, subway to office), from the Heights (99s or marshrutka to Port Authority, subway to office), and for the last 9 years from Paulus Hook (PATH to WTC and more recently, PATH to 33rd). I love to bitch about the PATH, but over this time I've become strongly averse to having to rely on more than one form of transportation - in addition to the PATH - to get to and from work. Yeah, probably I'm a bit anal about it but I've spent too much of my life on buses, broken down jitneys, and subway platforms and there are just too many ways to be delayed when you add another link to your commute.


You do realize that just like the VVP area, one could walk from LHN to the Grove PATH in 7 minutes or so? And considering Grove has both PATH lines there is no specific need to use Exchange Place over Grove. (Actually a quick look at Google Maps shows a walk from Grand/Barrow to Grove would be a fair bit shorter than the walk from Essex/Warren to Exchange).

For the record I like PH a lot (and one would probably pay more there for a condo than elsewhere in downtown JC), but I do want to point out that there are other PATH stations in this town other than Exchange Place

Posted on: 2008/7/2 15:30
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Re: Journal Square / New York Times: Ambitions Expand at Canco Lofts
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wibbit wrote:
can someone please clarify this, i am still confused. Is the tax based on a variable mortgage payment? Ie if you pay more mortgage, you pay more tax. Or is it based on a fixed amount?

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I'm not the biggest fan of abatements (especially since they're not really abatements (but a way for the city to get money that would otherwise go to the county and school board), but the article is misleading about how abatements work.

The 16% amount in the article is actually 16% of ownership costs based on a 20-year mortgage for the entire sale amount of the home (so 16% of 12 monthly payments for that theoretical mortgage plus 12 months of condo fees). In the end this works out to 1.6% to 1.7% of the purchase price per year. This is not much less than an unabated property would pay in taxes. If CanCo's rate is reduced to 10% it wold be more like 1%-1.1% of the purchase price, which is much less than average.

The difference is that the city gets 95% of property taxes (as a change a few years ago based on complaints from the county and schools gave them this small amount) rather than the county and schools getting a much larger share (about half) under regular taxes. So the city gets more money, and additional one-time payments from developers to plug the budget holes that develop every year, and the county and schools lose money.


The abatement payment is fixed - it's set when the condo/home is first sold by the developer to the first buyer and doesn't change after that. It's essentially based on the sale price, not whatever amount the buyer finances (the calculation uses a theoretical 20-year mortgage for the entire sales price, no matter what mortgage the buyer gets). So whether you pay cash for the entire place or get a 100% mortgage (not that those exist anymore) you pay the same abatement payment.

Posted on: 2008/6/29 21:54
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Re: Journal Square / New York Times: Ambitions Expand at Canco Lofts
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I'm not the biggest fan of abatements (especially since they're not really abatements (but a way for the city to get money that would otherwise go to the county and school board), but the article is misleading about how abatements work.

The 16% amount in the article is actually 16% of ownership costs based on a 20-year mortgage for the entire sale amount of the home (so 16% of 12 monthly payments for that theoretical mortgage plus 12 months of condo fees). In the end this works out to 1.6% to 1.7% of the purchase price per year. This is not much less than an unabated property would pay in taxes. If CanCo's rate is reduced to 10% it wold be more like 1%-1.1% of the purchase price, which is much less than average.

The difference is that the city gets 95% of property taxes (as a change a few years ago based on complaints from the county and schools gave them this small amount) rather than the county and schools getting a much larger share (about half) under regular taxes. So the city gets more money, and additional one-time payments from developers to plug the budget holes that develop every year, and the county and schools lose money.

Posted on: 2008/6/29 18:51
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Re: 2008 Street paving - Councilman Steven Fulop
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All the townhouse-style LHN buildings are built with wood framing.

Are you surprised that they shake?


The owners keep telling themselves that when Grand Street is repaved, the problems with the shaking will be solved. I suspect actually that the reason those folks are seeing cracks is that the development is beginning to settle on some softer then expected ground.

There is a whole thread over on kannekt dedicated to what those people have termed The Shakes.


I agree that people are conflating the two issues of shaking and cracks/settling. Clearly a smoother road surface may reduce vibrations, especially with the speed bumps and craters currently on Grand. But yes, cracks caused by settling would not stop because of the road being repaved.

One thing I don't understand though is why people are so aghast that low-rise buildings would use wood framing. The vast majority of homes and low-rise multi-family buildings built in the last 50 years have had wood framing, even multi-million dollar mansions.

Nearly all new wood-frame buildings tend to settle in just about any geology (even hard desert clay) and develop small hairline cracks in the wall as a result. These rarely are a sign of structural issues as long as the cracks are smaller than the width of a dime.

Posted on: 2008/6/27 20:43
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Re: 2008 Street paving - Councilman Steven Fulop
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StevenFulop wrote:
The following is the 2008 street paving schedule for Ward "E"

1) Warren Street from Essex to Dudley
2) Grand Street from Grove to Jersey
3) Colgate from First to Third
4) 6th Street from Manilla to Erie
5) Manilla from City Line to Boyle Plaza
6) 6th Street from Jersey to Brunswick
7) Brunswick from Newark to CC

(In addition CC will be paved as part of a state grant. We are aware of the dire condition of CC and the need)

Many of these streets were added based on constituent/community group feedback to our office. If there is a street that is in need please e-mail Althea or myself in city hall and we will work to have it included in the next phase.

I hope this is helpful information.

Sincerely,
Steven Fulop


Steven,

I will email you as well but wanted to request that the stretch of Grand between Grove and Marin be paved as part of the next round. While the stretch between Grove and Jersey is in much worse shape and in even more dire need of repair, that stretch is not in good shape either (with a very uneven surface and a number of potholes) and could really use some resurfacing.

Posted on: 2008/6/26 20:16
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Re: Hamilton Park Dog Run, pitbull attack
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I feel bad for Rosie but I am glad she will be okay.

There have been several times when I have gone over to the VVP dog run and decided not to let my dog in after all. A few owners just exude carelessness and require you to be extra-vigilant, but there are one or two that seem to take pride in the potentially aggressive nature of their (usually unfixed) dogs - not by any means all pit bulls, mind you. I wonder if they would actually be happy if their dog attacked another.

In any case, it is a bad idea (and bad manners) to bring toys or long-lasting treats like ham bones or rawhides to a dog run. Even many friendly dogs display semi-aggressive or guarding behaviors toward treats and toys. A friendly play session can quickly escalate to a confrontation when a treat or toy is involved. If you bring a toy it should ideally be one you can control at all times (like a rope toy) and can put away at a monent's notice. If you do need to use a ball, you should carefully evaluate every dog that enters the dog run while you're using it to see if it displays guarding or overly dominant behaviors - and take it away ASAP if necessary.

Posted on: 2008/6/25 18:56
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Re: Morton Williams Grocery
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CANKICKER wrote:
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JadedJC wrote:
So, Bill, what are the chances that Wegman's will ever set up shop around here?? Or is that one of those fantasies that has about as much chance of happening as JC someday electing an honest and efficient city government? There's a Wegman's out near my parents' on Rt. 9 in Freehold or Manalapan (hard to tell in that part of Jersey where one town begins and another ends), and I just LOVE visiting that store everytime I'm out there. The place just totally rocks, and imho, beats Whole Foods any day of the week. We'd joke about the "Weekend at Weggies" whenever I visit my parents.


If you love wegmans soooooooo much, than by all means go to yr nearest location and shop till you drop.

Morton williams is a breath of fresh air to DTJC and therefore be happy with what you have...

CK


At the risk of being slightly off-topic, I work right by a Wegmans in the burbs and have done my grocery shopping there more than a few times. While the prepared foods, deli counter, cheese selection, produce, etc are very nice, and Wegmans has a pretty good selection of international foods, I have found that their selection of grocery staples is actually rather limited. For many items they stock only their own brand, and if they don't make it you're out of luck. For example, for such a huge store I was really surprised they didn't carry canned pumpkin - which I happened to need ASAP one time to feed a sick dog.

So while it's a great store, I find that sometimes to get what I need I have to go to A&P.

Posted on: 2008/6/25 15:38
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Re: New York Times: Staying in the Comfort Zone -"...amazed at how close Jersey City is to Manhattan..."
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The surfeit of information on the dynamics of their relationship aside, the one thing that really irks me about this article is the whole "seven minute drive from Manhattan" thing.

Does anyone really move to Jersey City (or Hoboken for that matter) so they can drive into Manhattan? Isn't the whole reason for both towns' increasing prosperity that they are accessible to Manhattan via 24-hour public transport? Heck, the PATH train from Hoboken only takes 5 minutes, so why not plug that?

I wonder if this has anything to do with the dude's position as a sales agent for Canco. Their assertion that the McGinley Square or Journal Square areas are "10 minutes from Manhattan" are ridiculous and I suppose assume that you are driving in at 3am on a Tuesday morning.

Posted on: 2008/6/23 14:35
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Re: new grocer IS coming..
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So is this Morton Williams different from the ones in Manhattan? I have been to a few of them and would hardly call them premium. The ones in Manhattan at least are basically like a Gristedes.

Although I guess you could call them 'premium' in the sense that they have pretty high prices for regular grocery store items.

Posted on: 2008/6/17 23:45
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Re: Councilman Steven Fulop - Jersey City Summer 2008 Update
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I believe Paulus Hook park is the one on the corner of Grand and Washington. There is an initiative under way to reclaim the part of the park that was taken for the trailers at the school on the corner.

Also unless this is a new screen name it probably isn't Althea (she has in the past posted under the name Althea).

In any case, all good news Steve and Althea, keep up the good work. I am also especially excited about the Newark Ave project.

Posted on: 2008/6/13 23:28
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Re: Commute from JC to other parts of NJ
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If by Somerset you mean the town of Somerset (also known as Franklin Township) and not Somerset County, then you cannot take the Raritan Valley Line out there. You also probably wouldn't want to, as it's slow as molasses to get out to the farther ends of that train line on a reverse commute.

Be aware that if you take the Turnpike, there is major construction on both routes you could take (Exit 10 to 287 North, or Exit 9 to Route 18/New Brunswick). Both roads back up quite a bit in the direction you would be going because of the construction, especially Route 287.

The other option to take would be 78 West all the way to 287 South and take that to Easton Rd. This might be a bit faster but would be technically longer (up to 50 miles each way).

Keep in mind the cost of gas - a 100 mile roundtrip commute would cost you probably about $16 dollars every day.

Posted on: 2008/6/8 14:33
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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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Everyone (especially elvis), I suggest that you both send a customer service email on BJ's web site at https://www.bjs.com/member/service/service.enter.display and call their customer service line at 800-BJS-CLUB to complain.

I have often found that when the local store manager is a real winner like the person elvis mentioned, that when enough people contact the central customer service department something gets done.

Posted on: 2008/5/30 18:30
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Re: Majestic II - What do You Want Sign?
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Minnie wrote:
I don't mean to change the subject, but I was in Basic the other day and picked up a free copy of a little booklet called "NEW" and it says "Living on the other side of the hudson". Of course it's got all the latest places to go and eat, exercise, live, etc, etc.... Now the funny part is that somebody wrote on the front cover of the little booklet in black marker and it reads... "crap for white people to do". Well, it is somebody's opinion on these things... but I got a few snickers out of it.

Oh, and back to the main topic of this thread...... I cast my vote for a taco bell!


At the risk of continuing a slightly off-topic subject, I think the name "Crap for White People to Do" is awesome and that NEW should change its name to that immediately.

(As long as that includes white people giving directions, that is.)

Posted on: 2008/5/24 3:26
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Re: Majestic II - What do You Want Sign?
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Hey Nafco FYI I dont live in JC anymore, and havnt for quite sometime, just kinda sad to see it being tunred into another "cut out" generic gentrified city(well just downtown). So if this place opens retail space and say a few bars open up, what do you think these bars will caiter to? Chances are it will be some wine and cheese bars or something of that nature. My appoligize for not liking that kinda stuff. I forgot it was wrong to have an opinion.


I guess what I just don't understand is the mentality that "if it's not a store *I* want, I would rather see the land be vacant so that so one can benefit from it." By this logic, if you don't have a dog no one should be allowed to open a pet store.

I have no idea what will open up at Majestic II. For all I know it might be a yoga studio or something like that. I don't do yoga, but it would be ridiculous for me to say that because I'm not into yoga I would rather see the land stay vacant than turn into a yoga studio. That kind of attitude verges on spiteful.

Posted on: 2008/5/23 16:09
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Re: Majestic II - What do You Want Sign?
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Odd attempt at humor aside, Exeter is probably the best developer for this property, as all of their other developments have been a net positive for JC.

Considering Grove is turning into the main shopping and dining street in JC (since the stupid "restaurant row" program on Newark actually made it harder to open a restaurant/bar there at first), a nice retail building with condos above will be a good addition to the street.

I guess I just don't understand why some people would rather see a vacant lot than (God forbid) more housing? What's so bad about adding what is probably 50-75 condos to the area?

Posted on: 2008/5/23 14:08
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Re: Majestic II - What do You Want Sign?
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Sleuben, if thats the truth than I have officially given up on JC. More overpriced dumbass lofts, just what this place needs.


Would you prefer a vacant and decrepit carpet store?

Posted on: 2008/5/22 20:16
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Re: 307 Barrow Street
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The wedge-shaped block between Barrow and Bright and Grand is not in the VVP historic district (mainly because it's primaily filled with crap and not anything historic). So developers are free to use whatever design they want on that block.

Considering the city council designated that area an "area in need of redevelopment", rezoned it, and made it eligible for tax abatements, I would expect more buildings like the one going up to replace the ramshackle garages on that street in the next few years.

Posted on: 2008/5/14 21:02
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Re: Westchester Can Wait -- "Jersey City...It is like being on vacation every weekend.”
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Another welcome to the neighborhood -- and don't let these people get you down, bud.

I have now lived in 3 cities where there was a lot of development/gentrification (DC, Philly, and JC) and this kind of tension exists in all of them. Many people are afraid or apprehensive of change, some very understandably because they are worried of being priced out of their neighborhood and others because they just like things the way they are. The WORST though are people who move into an area and then immediately become holier-than-thou about preserving the "neighborhood character" they helped to start changing.

I guess some people deal with it by making rather silly personal attacks. As though two people who lived with their parents for years (and were able to save money to buy a home as a result) are on easy street.

BTW I think you'll be happy you chose JC over Westchester. My in-laws live in Westchester and although most of Westchester is honestly very nice, I find the vibe of a lot of towns sort of depressing for some reason. (Maybe if I needed a big house and great schools I would think different.)

Posted on: 2008/5/8 19:02
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Re: Morris Canal basin development?
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You are right that it is probably going to be condos. There are a few projects in this area. I think that site is for this new condo development:
http://www.thejcra.org/index.php?p=project-details&pid=7

There is also a project to restore the "creek" west of the footbridge:
http://www.thejcra.org/index.php?p=project-details&pid=9

There is also a public parking garage for the hospital and school going up in this area. It will probably be needed once the big parking lot at Grand and Jersey is replaced with more condos. http://www.thejcra.org/index.php?p=project-details&pid=8

Posted on: 2008/4/29 20:21
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Re: Jersey City earns 'F' in sex poll
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Methinks Monsieur Kessaular may have some experience with being a top and/or a bottom.

Posted on: 2008/4/28 3:09
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Re: Is Balance a good place for a men's haircut?
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So I guess since I started this thread a while ago, I should mention how my experience was.

I ended up going to Retro at first based on a few recommendations. It may have just been the specific person who cut my hair, Paula, but it was THE WORST HAIRCUT EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE. OKay, maybe not the absolute worst haircut, but a terrible experience nonetheless. This woman pulled my hair so hard I was tearing up, she didn't listen at all to how I wanted my hair cut, and when I asked her to use scissors instead of clippers she wasn't able to. I have honestly never had someone so inept cut my hair, not even at a $10 Hair Cuttery in some random mall.

Making it worse was the weird vibe in there: the owner (Mary?) and a customer were having a very loud and unsettling conversation about how we wouldn't have to have any immigrants if there weren't so many babies being aborted. Not what I want to hear when I'm getting my hair cut.

So I ended up going to Studio 17 which is awesome. Highly recommended and a good deal at $20 for a cut.

Posted on: 2008/4/2 16:23
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Re: Taxes
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If your taxes are complicated (more than just having NJ and NY, for example) I would recommend using a CPA.

In no event should you use H&R Block or Jackson Hewitt. Almost all of the people who prepare taxes for those companies have had minimal training and are essentially a human version of TurboTax. (In fact H&R block employees basically use a custom version of their TaxCut software, and you'd be better off just using TurboTax than going to those services.)

Also, be wary of any tax preparer who provides you a refund check directly the same day they finish your taxes (or the next day). Any tax refund will actually come from the federal government or state government and takes a minimum of a few days to process (usually 2 weeks though).

If you get your money sooner, through Rapid Refund or some other program. you are actually getting a loan (a refund anticipation loan or RAL). Make sure the tax preparer clearly outlines the fees they charge for the loan and the interest rate. You would be shocked how high the fees and interest can be. Often the APR will be 25%, a truly egregious rate. You're usually just better off waiting the 2 weeks until the refund comes directly from the government.

Posted on: 2008/2/20 17:13
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Re: Buon Appetito - new restaurant on Grove Street
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It's all becoming clear now. Tamard and heights and linky all spent months or years planning for this moment. They posted dozens or hundreds of times to create a carefully constructed image and reputation that would enable them to one day shill for Buon Appetito.

Or maybe they're just enthusiastic that a restaurant/deli they like is opening here. Lord knows we could use more quality places.

BTW much of Pret a Manger is owned by McDonalds. Hardly a non-corporate, locally owned shop..

Posted on: 2008/2/15 16:42
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Re: A Letter to Mayor Healy (Jersey Journal)
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I fully agree with the need for a better police presence, and I totally feel for Ms Shah. Getting your window broken twice so soon is maddening, and the police response to her was inadequate.

However, her valid complaints seem to get lost in her less-valid complaints about the tickets she received. Yes, maybe catching speeders isn't the best use of police resources, but in a park where a lot of kids play it's not the worst place to watch people's speeds. And honestly, if I saw that the cops are always giving tickets to people who speed through Lincoln Park, I would probably watch my speed right there.

But in the end, the letter makes a great point about how difficult life is for so many people in Jersey City and how out of touch most of city government seems to be.

Posted on: 2008/1/10 17:55
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Re: Sunblossom Condos
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Having been in a similar situation (where my place was delayed for several months), I can tell you that the way almost all these contracts are written, there is a date past which you can back out of the deal and get your money back but you specifically waive any right to compensation from delays.

Once you pass the date when you can back out (it usually seems to be 180 days after your contracted closing date), you might have some leverage to lower the price, but you can't realistically expect for the seller to pay for your accommodations.

I wish I could have gotten some compensation, as I ended up living in friends houses and hotels for 3 months, but that's just the way it is.

Posted on: 2008/1/10 14:13
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Re: Jersey City to JFK
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Maybe I'm the odd man out, but I have had pretty good luck taking the PATH/A Train to JFK (from Grove). I've actually found it to be about as fast and more convenient than the LIRR.

Yes, the A is 35 minutes vs 20 for the LIRR, but you make up most of that time on the much shorter PATH from WTC vs 33rd. Not to mention that when the weather is bad the walk from Penn to the 33rd PATH, and all the bag-schlepping up and down stairs, sucks. At least with the A you can walk from WTC to Chambers underground, or schlep your bag upstairs to the B'way/Nassau A stop right across from the PATH. And I have found the shorter Howard Beach A-to-AirTrain connection easier then the longer walk at Jamaica.

Of course if I were traveling really late at night I might choose differently.

Posted on: 2008/1/3 19:34
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Re: Downtown JC on north side of the Holland Tunnel gets a new nick name by Hobokenites: Welcome to
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Garyg wrote:

Also, if Hoboken loses Abbot status, Hoboken residents will end up paying more in property taxes, but 700 grove won't.

What is abbot status? Thanks.


Abbot refers to the school district...Abbot schools are controlled by the state, if they get returned to the city they will most likely have to raise property taxes to pay for them..if I'm not mistaken.


Actually, that's not quite accurate. Abbott v. Burke was a court case where the court ruled that students in poorer districts should have an education comparable to the best districts in the state. To do this the state has given large sums of money each year to about 30 school districts so that they spend as much per student as the richest districts.

State control of some of those districts (Jersey City,, Newark, Paterson) is a separate issue.

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Re: Downtown JC on wrong side of the Holland Tunnel gets a new nick name by Hobokenites: Welcome to
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I think it's clear that the realtor dude who thinks he's so witty is the real A-Ho.

BTW GP, the area where 700 Grove and Zephyr Lofts are is on the Hoboken (north) side of the Holland Tunnel, not the south side.

Posted on: 2007/12/14 2:04
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Re: Armed robbery near Montgomery?
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Wow, deliverymen are such targets. I hope he was okay, at least.

Do you know if they called 911 or the non-emergency number? Either way the response is not acceptable, but it helps to know just how unacceptable it is.

(Remember if someone witnesses a crime in progress they should always call 911, not the non-emergency number.)

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Re: DMV Question
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Scottacus wrote:
lipzilla, if you did not pass your inspection because of an emissions failure you MUST go to a repair facility approved by the DMV to get the repairs done.

Here is a link to a DMV page with more information and a list of approved facilities:
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Inspections/Whatif.htm


If it is more than just a simple gas cap problem, it's not required that she go to a DMV approved repair facility. The second paragraph in your link states:

"You can either have the repairs completed by a registered Emissions Repair Facility (ERF) or you can make them yourself."

The link to autobody facilities found on the same page states:

"For your convenience MVC has provided a list of the most current licensed Auto Body Facilities [1m pdf] in New Jersey. These facilities are not endorsed or affiliated with any part of MVC or the state of New Jersey."

I just wouldn't want her to unnecessarily limit her options!


This being the DMV, you have to read their statement literally - you can either bring the car to a place on their list or actually make the repairs yourself (i.e. work on your own car).

On the Emissions Repair Form you get when you fail, it says "Ask your dealer or repair shop if they are an ERF BEFORE you authorize them to work on your vehicle. Emission-related repairs performed by a dealer or repair shop that is NOT an ERF will NOT be accepted as valid repairs and the vehicle will NOT be reinspected."

Now if you have some other place do it and just bring in the receipt for any parts necessary (but not showing any labor), maybe you could get around it.

Link to form: http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/About/ERF_Form.pdf

Apparently gas cap failures aren't counted though, so it looks lipzilla is good to go with just the new cap.

Posted on: 2007/12/13 18:30
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