i grow weary from the constant flow of drunk/ cop/ drivers/ gun/ dog / etc. crime stories posted on this site, almost always by GrovePath. yet, they appear on the "recently replied" even if they're not replied to, but only newly posted. grove path: it seems obvious you work for the paper. and you want to protect you're livelihood. i respect that. i have no problem with that. but posting the stories here, for free, does not sell papers. we get the free content and a signature urging us to "buy local papers." why should we? all the content is here for free. at least if i'm sent to the website it helps the ad revenue and i can associate the web content with the JJ brand and get exposed to other JJ stories. that's why the internet is a WEB: the site and stories connect. so, with that in mind, perhaps you would do better to print only half the story here and then divert us to the JJ website. that won't make fewer posts, but it might advance your interests. or, maybe the web dude can set up a special forum for JJ, HJ, JCR, and other news-spammers to post their news links. that won't take stories out of the main page ("recently replied"), but creates it's own forum. maybe could be cross-linked with a subcategory? usually, crime & safety. eh. i don't know. i simply not convinced so many crime/ safety stories tell us much about this town. and as to what that says about the JJ subscription rate... perhaps JJ should reconsider their tabloid/ compact format and tabloid/ smalltown flavor.

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Why did that happen anyway? Terrible idea. Who runs the tour, and what were they thinking?

still a library

"help wanted: voyeurs and creeps to oggle thirteen year old girls and post-menopausal women. bonuses given if you spot and record enhancements"

Quote: Why did you capitalize FREEDOM? Being x-ray eyed top-to-bottom by minimum wage security personnel is not a freeing activity. I should know: they had me run, skip, hop, silly walk, cartwheel, and conga-line through the machine so they could upload it to their blog. Somehow they didn't mention my underwire brassiere or the socks I had stuffed in it. And elsewhere. Well, let me tell you, that machine does not enhance the freedom of speech or religion or assembly, the right to bear arms, protection from unreasonable searches (ahem), rights to due process in accessing the courts, freedom from cruel and unusual punishment... Unfortunately, those who are quick to throw away their own freedoms are also throwing away mine. Please, don't tread on me.

Greenville is not likely to be "gentrified" anytime soon, but perhaps it will be working-class-ified by hardworking immigrants who are more daring than white urban pioneers.

Are The Heights (South/ Central Americans?) and Marion (Egyptians, Arabs, etc.) such examples? With race in mind, perhaps Greenville will be more attractive to West Indians and African immigrants. For example, I hear there is a small Kenyan community there.

Those neighborhoods might never have had the problems that Greenville has, either in the breadth of area or the depth of poverty... or distance from amenities.

To be honest, Greenville is a mystery to almost everyone I know. With no reason or means to travel there, changing my image of Greenville will be difficult.

eh. sorry.

btw the cars from B&B auto are often parked in front of those garages. so, maybe nobody owns them, or cares. or B&B does.

pardon the delay...

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Yes, let's get back to the civil liberties question: do we have a "civil liberty" which protects us from being millimeter-wave scanned? This effort at the PATH is just a trial, and by allowing passengers to choose other stations, it's not a real security measure.

In the 1960s and 1970s there were many hijackings of airlines. The perpetrators used guns, knives, bombs, etc. Thus, we now accept scans as prerequisite for air travel.

Here, the scan is more than a metal detector. It will guns, knives, bombs, pacemakers, cell phones, undergarments, nipple rings, etc. Given the architecture of train stations, Amtrak, NJ Transit, and PATH may have to run scans at the building or concourse entrance to be comparable to airports.

The 2004 Madrid train bombings told us what we already knew: trains are highly vulnerable to terrorist attacks. New York is the ideal target: there are many trains, tunnels, bridges, entrances, and people. Infrastructure disruptions alone would accomplish a terrorist's task. The practical costs of preventing every attack would be high, and would inevitably fail.

For example, at Newark Penn having a scanner at four building entrances rather than at 12 platform entrances is a big difference. The time lost is a real minus for rail passengers, who are already somewhat inconvenienced.

Moreover, to protect Newark Penn Station means enforcing security at Trenton, Hamilton, Princeton Junction, Jersey Avenue, New Brunswick... and every other station in theNH Transit system and the Amtrak system, including Philly and Baltimore and Raleigh.

For a system with so many gaps, sacrificing freedom is a bad and wasteful precedent. Is ianmac right that it props up the security culture's version of the "military industrial" complex? Very likely, yes, and that will only continue.

Oh, I have a good EJ story from today. So, I was walking the dog. I cleaned it up. Responsibility!

Anyway, the coach of the Athletics started yelling at the umpire. "You're calling all the balls as strikes and the strikes as balls. You just want to get outta here! You don't even know the game! You don't even care, and just want to leave!"

Of course his team was down 8-0 in the bottom of the third inning, but it was the ump's fault. The Braves were walloping away. It was a real throttling. What's the mercy rule, a ten run lead?

This typical JC p/o/s had the balls to say, "How are the children supposed to learn the game? We're here trying to teach them when to swing and when not to, but you're screwing it up by calling it all wrong. You're just trying to get paid and get out of here!"

His "proof" for this was that his relief pitcher only had three warmup pitches. The ump said he asked the kid, and the kid said he was ready to go. Maybe he should have given him more time, but I don't think it explains the 8-0 score.

Stupidly, the ump engaged this moron instead of throwing him off the field. Eventually he told him to stay in the dugout, which of course the guy didn't do. The other coaches behave responsibly, but fathead was intent on proving his worth to 30 kids and families.

He had already tried to inspire the team with this pearl: "Don't try to tell me you came here to lose! It's not about losing, it's about playing to win, but I ain't e'en seein' dat." Very inspiring. Doggie shat a squishy one out of fear and pride.

Living in Jersey City, this sort of bull isn't even exciting anymore. It's just predictable: some sorry sack spouting off because he's a sorry sack.

In Jersey City, "the children" always lose when the local imbeciles fight over turf.

Fortunately, the low-class behavior I saw today won't be long for this world.

nice. u gonna phone it in?

need photos of the license plates and truck numbers

what "we" do you mean?

go to the flamingo at 2am on a saturday morning... the waitress will be overworked, the tables will not be very clean, the service will be slow...

but much much much worse: the customers are all jerks. i've seen two racially-fueled shouting matches there, and one time the cops had to come.

that late-night, after the bar diner scene like you see down the shore... or anywhere... well at flamingo it becomes sand bar + JC = scumbaggedityness all around.

and i was there for research purposes, not a BLT extra mayo

agreed. i met Aart a few years ago at a bar. very cool guy and knows the area well. works out of hobo.

but ya know, he's very jersey city to me

http://www.city-data.com/profiles/photo/5666p

more candy for your oggling pleasure, boys

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009 ... _teacher_in_sex.html#more

praise jesus!

the spirit of the christ will raise the dead, heal the cripples, turn blue curb to gray, and turn boots to to beer barrels... so you'll be happy to throw it into your trunk

but don't worry, the streets in january will still be unplowed, iced over, and unparkable. and the sewers will be clogged. and your wife will still nag you to take out the trash. and your jump shot will still suck. and all the dna in your trunk will tie you to that crime...

but the parking thing is a miracle

praise be!

When I lived over there (sorta) I would shoot hoops, but the park was mostly empty... as in mostly empty and useless baseball fields which help nobody!

Is the first time the Hamilton Park community even noticed EJ?

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A wizened sage once told me:

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Bam! You knew your crack house would have a bar on the ground floor! Right?

Quote: Yet another quite thoughtful post from someone who actually lived near a bar, and knows from first-hand experience! You raise some important points which need to be explored: * The owners know their bar is loud and it's pissing people off. The short-sighted view is that when the music is loud, everyone is having more fun. Etc. I think Barrow takes this principle too far, and cranks the music so high that even the people in the bar can't take it. That's especially true on trivia night because of the blond guy. Indios does the same. If their speakers were focused away from the doorway it would probably be much better. Maybe The Lamppost blares it, too, but they don't have open doors, and in fact they have a second set of doors. So does Abbey's. That said, I was at Lamppost the other night and the place was rowdy and the folks were drinking and smoking outside, all over the sidewalk, until at least 230/3 in the morning. There was not a peep from Latin Lounge, though. That said, I have personally been "reprimanded" by Chris at Barrow St for being loud and smoking out front. So, we went to the side by the bench. Much of a change? Maybe not, but he showed an effort in the right direction and has read this site in the past, so he does understand. * Sound travels through the air, and moreso on cold nights or with less humidity. The speakers are not focused on keeping the sound inside, so some nights will be even louder. * The louder the music gets, the louder the people get... to shout over it. * Owners believe that the louder the bar... the more fun is had and boisterous is the crowd and the more money is made. Maggie from Skinner's does not feel this way. * When there are many bars in a row, the one that's fullest/ rowdiest might wish to compete, as by advertising it's fun-ness through loud music. But here, we have neighborhood bars. If you're on that corner, you've come that far and you're about to make your decision. A decent crowd should be enough for you. Few people need have the party needs of G-N-R and 2Live Crew. So, the music can be down if the crowd is having fun. * There is the 80/20 rule. 80% of profits come from 20% of your customers. Namely, return customers. For neighborhood bars, this is about who feels welcome there, who lives nearby, and who likes the food/ crowd. * A loud and obnoxious bar culture obviously pisses off many neighbors, making enemies out of them and likely losing their business forever even at happy hour. There are ways to bring the neighborhood on board, or at least, not piss them off as much: * Keep the music down. We don't need Gym Class Heroes blaring at 150 db at 230am. A quality sound system, and a DJ with good taste, is always better than the owner's plan. Don't let the bartenders mess with it too much if they don't know what they're doing, and try to equalize the volume on your playlist so not every song is so damn loud. Make sure you know whether your pc/ ipod/ or receiver is the best way to do the controls. * Restrict smokers. Enforce it upon them, through your bouncer (Barrow does not have one, but Lucky's does) that respecting the neighbors is the cool thing to do. Post signs reminding them of this. Enforce it. * If you have to "ban" someone, they'll probably be back. (Though I've heard that Barrow kicked somebody out and they came back with a vengeance.) * Thick windows and double-doors muffle sound. This should not be a surprise. There may be an expense. * Fans and a good A/C will keep it cool inside, allowing you to keep the doors closed. * Respect the neighbors. Bad press goes far. Obviously this town is changing, and when I go to Barrow and Lucky's I see many faces I've never seen. Owners know this and they want these return customers. But blaring the music making a horrorshow scene can't un-do whatever problem of uncleanliness (taps, glasses, bathrooms), bad food, bad service, bad lighting, clutter, etc. If the neighborhood "rallies" as the thread urges, it may force a response. But, it doesn't need to get to that point.

I agree, in general. I will look into it more.

It's true that was not my most coherent post. Others have been well thought out.

Here, I was refering to the issues raised by the original poster. You.

Throw your dog poop at whomever you wish, but not at innocents, as I am here.

I'm glad you like baseball, and are filled with a youthful spirit (or whatever) when you see it going on.

I agree 100% with you comments on the litter. That's a city-wide problem and the baseballers seem to think the new EJ dog park is a bigger problem than litter. It's true, you don't want your kids playing around dog pile. Apparently nobody at HP considered that... fortunately that failed dog-free-for-all is over.

Ok. Whatever. I don't want to relitigate that point. I don't even live over there, but I used to live near MB and EJ.

My real point is this: this town has too many empty baseball fields. We might all disagree about active and passive recreation, etc. Some people like ball. Some people like benches. Etc.

But downtown has at least six empty baseball fields. Or maybe ten! Nah, it has to be twenty.

Step one: fix Mary Benson park for the modern era... take down those damn fences. The whole park is a patch of dirt, reserved exclusively for the women's and bar softball league for 3 months of the year. Of course they' don't pay the upkeep alone.

I say open that field all year until the park become something we can all agree on. No chains on those gates. Let the kids hit the ball around. (Having lived over there, I know there's a lot of broken glass and empty bottles near the basketball court. I know, you'll say, but you want that to spread?! Well, who says it has to?)

Enos Jones locks their fields too. Selfish. But, at least those fields are a bit nicer. (Too nice).

erin: please help me. i lost a yellow parakeet, and then i lost a yellow canary. for all i know a cat could be having them over for lunch in one of jc's many feral cat luxury condos

An archival photo of Ms. Glide.

i understand. i was just trying to explain the basis of the perceived "insult"

It's subtle. But, pernicious?

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We "haven't the slightest idea?" Do we? Or don't we? Or does it matter? No, it doesn't.

When the boring "old-school" sentiment is so widespread, indignant in its opposition to the idea that communities change [and, by the way, this one always has been changing], and so reluctant to admit that some changes are positive changes...

...people start reading between the lines. I wonder at the class and nationalism wars/ division that this town has seen for so long. Dutch. English. "American" Revolutionaries. Scotch/Irish. Italians. European Jews. Russians. Poles. Blacks. Filipinos. Indians. Chinese. There has always been someone coming in who didn't have a clue what was going on, and they felt welcome amongst their countrymen. Now, the OGs are fighting a class war, are losing, and turn it personal. And, it's still about boring misconceptions.

So, with that in mind, at least three people read between the lines, focusing on what you've said, and assuming what it meant.

Hell: do you really think your all-ages punk show has any idea what punk was like 5, 10, or 20 years ago? Nope. And that prooves nothing, except that you tend to reject what, in fact, you rely upon. Sorry mom!

Your self-interest here is getting a venue for "your" bands. It isn't working out so far. Alienating people will not advance that cause.

Also, there was Celeste Adamski of Kearny.
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... cher_admits_to_sex_w.html

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... x_teach_gets_2_years.html

And somebody else:
http://blog.pennlive.com/lvbreakingne ... d_lopatcong_township.html

crime is up, and so is icechute