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If Bushwick and Red Hook can change in a handful of years, so will this area.


During a housing boom, sure.
But I don't think that's happening again anytime soon.
Things stalled after the '87 crash for almost 10 years.
In the years leading up to that everyone thought that they were real estate geniuses.

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I am happy to see this area presented in a positive light for a change. There are many community groups and individuals working hard to make this part of town a great place to live. I imagine most of us love the challenge of maintaining and restoring our homes to their original splendor. The neighbors are wonderful on our particular street. As Greenville Chick mentioned, the 87 is right there on Monticello. During rush hour, you can get to Journal Square in minutes. It?s also walkable if you are so inclined. If you have a car, getting downtown, to the Holland Tunnel or Turnpike is a breeze.

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They recently added NJ Transit #6 line which runs up Summit to Journal Square, but it looks like it goes down past the new County building first. There is a route map under the schedule.

http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/bus/T0006.pdf

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Bulletproof car...

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I kid, I kid

There is the 87 bus on Monticello and Belmont takes you to Journal Square/Path Station

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What's the best way to commute to NYC from Crescent, Astor, Park, etc?

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I fully agree. I even tend to think that twenty years might be to far out. If Bushwick and Red Hook can change in a handful of years, so will this area. The neighborhood truly has some great housing stock, structures that no one is building anymore. The potential of the neighborhood was one of the major reasons I bought nearby a couple of years ago, so I'm bullish on what this area can become.

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As a kid growing up in JC, the Downtown section was as undesirable as any infamous tough neighborhood in America. About twice a month, there was a major fire in an old tenement building or brownstone so landlords could collect insurance. Empty lots were dotted along the rows of old charming homes. That's why you see a row of old homes broken by a poorly built 1980's style two-family box built before anyone appreciated historical charm. Back then, "glue sniffers" were in Hamilton and Van Vorst Parks, and a high school friend of mine was murdered near the old St. Frances Hospital, now Hamilton Square, as he left a high school dance. Lafayette and The Junction will look somewhat like downtown in twenty years. There are robust community organizations trying to improve the area which is a first step to improving the quality of life of those residents committed to the area. [img]jersey city[/img] Hopefully, the architectural wonder that still exists will be saved to avoid the mismatch in this photo.

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I bought a rowhouse on Crescent 5 years ago and have seen more and more people buying here for the good prices and historical quality of the buildings.

I am also seeing a improvement in the neighborhood in general with more and more active block associations working to better the quality of life.

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oh and I have been here for a couple years lol... it's not new

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No shit sherlock

I moved... I didn't feel like changing my name, I didnt know I had to put in a change of address with JCList also


LOL, no judgment, just shock, that's all.



Is that sarcasm? I didn't move because of the area actually lol, where I live now is worse then before, but affordability was my main concern


LOL no sarcasm, I swear. I just have to adjust the online persona I had created for you in my head, and adapt it to your new neighborhood, that's all.

I have actually spent plenty of time in the Bergen Hill area around Summit and Astor, and it's always struck me as a sort of oasis with lots of rough edges. Astor is nice from Summit to Crescent, but then gets sketchy, Summit is nice from the little triangle park till the Church, etc. Park Street seems to be super sketchy overall.

The housing stock there is pretty amazing, as are the views from a lot of the properties. Went to an amazing July 4th party on a deck with panoramic views of the skyline.




That's a pretty damn accurate description, I couldn't agree with you more.

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No shit sherlock

I moved... I didn't feel like changing my name, I didnt know I had to put in a change of address with JCList also


LOL, no judgment, just shock, that's all.



Is that sarcasm? I didn't move because of the area actually lol, where I live now is worse then before, but affordability was my main concern


LOL no sarcasm, I swear. I just have to adjust the online persona I had created for you in my head, and adapt it to your new neighborhood, that's all.

I have actually spent plenty of time in the Bergen Hill area around Summit and Astor, and it's always struck me as a sort of oasis with lots of rough edges. Astor is nice from Summit to Crescent, but then gets sketchy, Summit is nice from the little triangle park till the Church, etc. Park Street seems to be super sketchy overall.

The housing stock there is pretty amazing, as are the views from a lot of the properties. Went to an amazing July 4th party on a deck with panoramic views of the skyline.

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Just out of curiosity Tommy - why did you decide to tour this part of town? You generally do not have anything positive to say about it.


I drive and/or walk all over this city. I don't think that particular part of town is very safe, by any means, but I do think some of the housing stock is very nice.

I have no problem leaving my downtown bubble.



Well at least some people are adventurous! I mean the neighbors are awesome, just have a lot of unsavory activity all the time. Eh you win some you lose some

That church on Summit is awesome too as well as those stretch of brownstones right after it.

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No shit sherlock

I moved... I didn't feel like changing my name, I didnt know I had to put in a change of address with JCList also


LOL, no judgment, just shock, that's all.



Is that sarcasm? I didn't move because of the area actually lol, where I live now is worse then before, but affordability was my main concern

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Just out of curiosity Tommy - why did you decide to tour this part of town? You generally do not have anything positive to say about it.


I drive and/or walk all over this city. I don't think that particular part of town is very safe, by any means, but I do think some of the housing stock is very nice.

I have no problem leaving my downtown bubble.

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I moved... I didn't feel like changing my name, I didnt know I had to put in a change of address with JCList also


LOL, no judgment, just shock, that's all.

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No shit sherlock

I moved... I didn't feel like changing my name, I didnt know I had to put in a change of address with JCList also

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Greenvillechick, you don't live in Greenville? Who knew?

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The place looks nice from the outside.
Here is the link

http://listings.listhub.net/pages/HCMLSNJ/90007774/?channel=yahoo

It's been for sale since 6/23/09



I live the next block over from here...

Guy was shot point blank in the head about 3-4 months ago right here... Rooming House/Drug house right across the street from this house. Yes they have gorgeous houses over here, I would buy a house here, but the average person might not the area is in a rough neighborhood... but def has potential....

For what it's worth I love my neighborhood, but like I said others may find it a little too rough

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Just out of curiosity Tommy - why did you decide to tour this part of town? You generally do not have anything positive to say about it.

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There is another 4 story brownstone right around the corner one block north that is going for the mid 100's

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The place looks nice from the outside.
Here is the link

http://listings.listhub.net/pages/HCMLSNJ/90007774/?channel=yahoo

It's been for sale since 6/23/09

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I agree with you that parts of Bramhall are stunning. I also love the area of Bergen/Lafayette of lower Belmont Ave, Crescent, Park, Astor, just off Communipaw.

Currently if you do a Yahoo Real Estate Search, there's a 3 bdr brownstone home on Astor for about $139K. Not sure if that's because it needs work or it's a short sale. About a year ago, same neighborhood, places were listed for $350K-$400K.



Astor is a beautiful block. Most residents are actively trying to keep it nice and they have their own block association. $139k sounds way cheap for a brownstone there, even a small one. I bet it needs a ton of work.

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Hi Tommy,
I agree with you that parts of Bramhall are stunning. I also love the area of Bergen/Lafayette of lower Belmont Ave, Crescent, Park, Astor, just off Communipaw.

Currently if you do a Yahoo Real Estate Search, there's a 3 bdr brownstone home on Astor for about $139K. Not sure if that's because it needs work or it's a short sale. About a year ago, same neighborhood, places were listed for $350K-$400K.

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Tommy here is a link which may answer some of your history related questions (check down a few paragraphs from the top). Don't know how much the brownstones sell for but there are some rather beautiful row houses through out the area. : )

http://www.jerseycityonline.com/history_of_jersey_city.htm

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Any of you guys ever venture out over to the area around Bramhall Ave, Madison Ave, and Monticello Ave? Man, there are gorgeous brownstones and rowhouses over there! I believe this is in the neighborhood known as the Hill. It's not currently a great neighborhood, unfortunately.

I always wondered why, outside of Downtown, this type of historic rowhouse only exists in patches. In that particular area, was there a settlement there in the late 1800's, and it only expanded (to include crappy-looking housing) later on, like in the 1940s/50s?

Anybody know how much those brownstones sell for over there?

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