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Dumb? You are just ignorant. Podesta fell for spam and just gave up his email password. Keep believing there is no connection between the Russian meeting and the Russian dossier

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From the same article:

Moreover, the Trump Justice Department, after dismissing former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara, subsequently settled a case for Veselnitskaya's client very much in their favor. That settlement earlier this spring is now highly suspicious, given this week's revelations. In my personal opinion, it's the most suspicious act to date in the whole panoply of much-denounced Trump behaviors with regard to Russia, perhaps even moreso than the firing of James Comey.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dem ... an-lawyer/article/2628454

Thanks for pointing out more shady stuff from the Trumps! Maybe Trump Jr. didn't come out with nothing from that meeting. The Russian lawyer sure seems to have gotten a lot from it.

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Interesting background piece by Matt Taibbi... His narrative puts together some disturbing facts about Washington DC Power and its relationship with "the Russians" and "the russians".

The whole thing really comes back to the Obama Administration... He was forced into signing a law he did not agree with (nor did many key republicans). His MO was always only enforce federal laws he agreed with and ignore the ones he didn't. So he reluctantly signs this law and then goes to work in the background supporting the lobbying efforts for repeal.

Hence the shady Russian Woman Lawyer getting that special treatment from DoS... and the photo op of her front row at a senate hearing behind the US Ambassador to Russia.

They needed Trump (on the remote chance he would win the election) because they already had HRC. If Trump had also added Term Limits on his 3 plank platform, Taxes, Illegal Immigration and draining the swamp, he would have had a landslide victory.

"On the other hand, Trump himself came out strongly in favor of the Magnitsky law earlier this year, a piece of news that was then and remains now a weird fit with the collusion narrative. Overturning the Magnitsky Act is probably at or near the top of the list of Russian foreign policy objectives vis a vis the United States. "

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ ... fair-linked-again-w492290

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You have to be really dumb to think this was a simple hack. Podesta was targeted, do you know of any other person out there whose emails was outed by Russians directed by Putin? And as I've already stated, Podesta wasn't the only one hacked by the Russians. It's really quite amazing how Trumptards keep blaming victims in their efforts to deflect from all the lies and coverups committed by the Trumps. Don't worry, because no matter what you do the Trumps will continue to keep doing stupid stuff.

Reading comprehension? Maybe you should choose to think before you type nonsense like this: "Podesta turning over his password to the Russians"

And as it turns out, it wasn't even Podesta's fault.

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecuri ... caused-podesta-email-hack

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Reading comprehension is very important. Where did I say Podesta tried to sink his own candidate?
Podesta was hacked. He fell for a trap a 12 yr old wouldn't. As far as collusion we may find out Obama and Hillary had Russian contact before this is over. We already know the group who fabricated the dossier and facilitated the meeting are connected

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All this talk of Podesta is self serving nonsense. According tot he FBI, the Republicans were also hacked by the Russians but they obviously picked a side. You have to be the dumbest person on earth if you think Podesta colluded with the Russians to destroy his candidate. I mean seriously, where the hell do you get your information? Trump Jr? You do know the hacked emails were from a Google account, right? Try using simple passwords and see what happens.

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Hillary doesn't know how to work an email machine and Podesta replys to spam that a 12 yr old knows to ignore. You Libs complain about Trump im just glad these 2 incompetent's are out of the picture


135jc wrote: blah blah blah nothing burger.


Really? A nothing burger? Podesta turning over his password to the Russians did nothing in you opinion? Good. I'm glad you cleared that up for us.


Nope, not what I am saying. There's a lot of shady sh*t going on with the CURRENT administration and that's your response to all of it.

And no I'm not for giving anyone a free pass.

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Hillary doesn't know how to work an email machine and Podesta replys to spam that a 12 yr old knows to ignore. You Libs complain about Trump im just glad these 2 incompetent's are out of the picture


135jc wrote: blah blah blah nothing burger.


Really? A nothing burger? Podesta turning over his password to the Russians did nothing in you opinion? Good. I'm glad you cleared that up for us.

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Hillary doesn't know how to work an email machine and Podesta replys to spam that a 12 yr old knows to ignore. You Libs complain about Trump im just glad these 2 incompetent's are out of the picture


135jc wrote: blah blah blah nothing burger.

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Oh, and sure, Hillary probably would have lost anyway and that's the irony. Trump F'd up Big Time.

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BIG differences. A low level operative who, as a side project, exposed Manafort's slime-balling. Trump's top people met with Russians and encouraged hacking and manufacturing of "evidence". You Trump fanboys have to just eat your "nothingurgers". The net is closing...Even the guys who wrote the Politico article know this.

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Trump fans shouldn't be talking about emails and incompetence for that matter.

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Hillary doesn't know how to work an email machine and Podesta replys to spam that a 12 yr old knows to ignore. You Libs complain about Trump im just glad these 2 incompetent's are out of the picture

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Sure, bring them all in. You can even have a double Chalupa. Bring in all the suspects, including the sitting President and Putin too. I'm sure we can get to the bottom of this once we have all the suspects.


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Here is the truth- Obama knew about Russia meddling but did nothing. And Podesta changed his password which allowed the meddling to happen. But no, let's continue to blame Trump or his family. http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/23/politic ... ussia-election/index.html

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Ukraine and Russian interference are equivalent? Sure, then by all means lets bring up Trump Jr., Manafort, Kushner and this Chalupa lady on charges of collusion. Seems like a fair deal to me!


Yes and we can bring up Obama, Clinton/Kerry, Nuland, the US ambassador to Ukraine on criminal charges too... if you read the article you would see the DoS spox claim (lie) that the actual leaked voice recording of the conspirators was fabricated by the Russians. Boy, that sounds familiar?

DSoS Nuland went on official record apologizing to the EU after she told the EU to F'off when they figuring were who would run the Ukraine after they toppled the government,

Please show me an email or voice recording by the Russians encouraging Trump Supporters / Republicans to violently take over the US Capital and other Federal building in Washington DC.

People died during the US inspired coup in the Ukraine.... I am not aware of anyone dying as a direct consequence of the US election results, though I am sure HRC had murder on her mind election night in the hotel suite.

Let's not forget Podesta, Lynch Wasserman Brazile and Zook

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Ukraine and Russian interference are equivalent? Sure, then by all means lets bring up Trump Jr., Manafort, Kushner and this Chalupa lady on charges of collusion. Seems like a fair deal to me!


Yes and we can bring up Obama, Clinton/Kerry, Nuland, the US ambassador to Ukraine on criminal charges too... if you read the article you would see the DoS spox claim (lie) that the actual leaked voice recording of the conspirators was fabricated by the Russians. Boy, that sounds familiar?

DSoS Nuland went on official record apologizing to the EU after she told the EU to F'off when they figuring were who would run the Ukraine after they toppled the government,

Please show me an email or voice recording by the Russians encouraging Trump Supporters / Republicans to violently take over the US Capital and other Federal building in Washington DC.

People died during the US inspired coup in the Ukraine.... I am not aware of anyone dying as a direct consequence of the US election results, though I am sure HRC had murder on her mind election night in the hotel suite.

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Ukraine and Russian interference are equivalent? Sure, then by all means lets bring up Trump Jr., Manafort, Kushner and this Chalupa lady on charges of collusion. Seems like a fair deal to me!

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I'll have a small beer and a nothing burger.

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How could the Ukraine issue be any smaller then Jrs Russian meeting in which nothing was discussed?

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Can you imagine the outrage conservatives, Fox and the GOP if this was Hillary Clinton?

This is the most embarrassing chapter of the US Govt. Have any of you traveled out of the country lately?


Hillary's campaign did meet with foriegn entities during the campaign. It will come out.


As Kenneth Vogel, one of the journalists who wrote the original Politico article, noted on Twitter on Wednesday, “overall Russian gov’t effort to sabotage Hillary/boost Trump was obviously MUCH MORE CONCERTED than anything done by anyone in the Ukrainian gov’t.”

“The Ukrainian operation was pretty small beer. It just didn’t rise to the level” of the Russian influence campaign, David Stern, a Ukraine-based journalist and the co-author with Vogel of the Politico article, told me. “I think we’re dealing in very broad strokes with something similar, but when you get into the details, they’re totally different situations.”



What is "Small Beer"? You progressives never fail to amuse me with your ability to abandon/ignore facts and logical analysis when it comes to your anti-Trump Hysteria.

Like it or not, the Obama Administration supported (money/intel) the VIOLENT over throw of a duly elected government... I fail to see any how our "illegal" Ukraine activity can be dismissed when compared to any alleged attempts by Russia to influence the recent US election.

https://orientalreview.org/2014/02/07/ ... ng-to-ukraine-mrs-nuland/

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Can you imagine the outrage conservatives, Fox and the GOP if this was Hillary Clinton?

This is the most embarrassing chapter of the US Govt. Have any of you traveled out of the country lately?


I really miss the good old photo-op days when our POTUS would bow before Middle East Oil Sheiks and Asian Royal Families.

We need a progressive POTUS who embraces Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro while overthrowing a legitimate elected Ukraine government.

Also ousting other Middle East "Secular" Dictators to install radical fundamentalist theocracies that are 100% out of line with western values that embrace diversity and value women is a winning foreign policy.

I like to vacation in Venezuela and Cuba because the US$ goes far and the locals do not bother you much.

For longer vacations on the beautiful Mediterranean Sea, Egypt is my #1 choice because they value tourists and there is no chance of being murdered at their resorts.

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Can you imagine the outrage conservatives, Fox and the GOP if this was Hillary Clinton?

This is the most embarrassing chapter of the US Govt. Have any of you traveled out of the country lately?


Hillary's campaign did meet with foriegn entities during the campaign. It will come out.


As Kenneth Vogel, one of the journalists who wrote the original Politico article, noted on Twitter on Wednesday, “overall Russian gov’t effort to sabotage Hillary/boost Trump was obviously MUCH MORE CONCERTED than anything done by anyone in the Ukrainian gov’t.”

“The Ukrainian operation was pretty small beer. It just didn’t rise to the level” of the Russian influence campaign, David Stern, a Ukraine-based journalist and the co-author with Vogel of the Politico article, told me. “I think we’re dealing in very broad strokes with something similar, but when you get into the details, they’re totally different situations.”

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This is the most embarrassing chapter of the US Govt. Have any of you traveled out of the country lately?


Hillary's campaign did meet with foriegn entities during the campaign. It will come out.

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Yesterday from Donald's Twit account:

"Republicans Senators are working hard to get their failed ObamaCare replacement approved. I will be at my desk, pen in hand!"

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Can you imagine the outrage conservatives, Fox and the GOP if this was Hillary Clinton?

This is the most embarrassing chapter of the US Govt. Have any of you traveled out of the country lately?

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That meeting with Trump's Junior keeps getting bigger and bigger...literally and figuratively.

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Veselnitskaya is a Democrat operative. It was entrapment.


Yes Comrade you read it somehwere so it so it is true! And how can these democrat liberal progressives explain the photos of Veselnitskaya playing golf with Obama? And what about the bodies buried on Hillary's property in Westchester? And who dug up the bodies and moved them eliminating all evidence?


Obama? Wasn't it he who said Russia hasn't been a threat since 1980? His administration stood by while Russia committed all kinds of human atrocities. Apparently stealing emails however was over the line.

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Yes Comrade you read it somehwere so it so it is true! And how can these democrat liberal progressives explain the photos of Veselnitskaya playing golf with Obama? And what about the bodies buried on Hillary's property in Westchester? And who dug up the bodies and moved them eliminating all evidence?

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Veselnitskaya is a Democrat operative. It was entrapment.

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Nice.... the Obama DOJ expedited the woman Russian lawyers entrance into the USA so she could lobby against a US Human Rights law?

No wonder the Trump Jr. and company got the hell out of that meeting in 20 minutes; they smelled a rat.

Like I said earlier... this was an Obama DOJ political dirty trick setup... They got nothing originally, but this ended up playing well with their current smear campaign.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administr ... before-she-met-with-trump



“In October the government bypassed the normal visa process and gave a type of extraordinary permission to enter the country called immigration parole,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Paul Monteleoni explained to the judge during a hearing on Jan. 6, 2016.

“That's a discretionary act that the statute allows the attorney general to do in extraordinary circumstances. In this case, we did that so that Mr. Katsyv could testify. And we made the further accommodation of allowing his Russian lawyer into the country to assist,” he added.

The prosecutor said the Justice Department was willing to allow the Russian lawyer to enter the United States again as the trial in the case approached so she could help prepare and attend the proceedings.

The court record indicates the presiding judge asked the Justice Department to extend Veselnitskaya’s immigration parole another week until he decided motions in the case. There are no other records in the court file indicating what happened with that request or how Veselnitskaya appeared in the country later that spring.


Right. Loretta Lynch allowed her to overstay her Visa

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