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someone has posted these signs throughout the Westside neighborhood bars.

tunaboy wrote:
Thanks everyone, i've decided to pass on this apartment for a few reasons:

I don't want to have to watch my back everywhere I go
I don't want to have to hide my phone or worry about getting robbed
I don't want to be scared to walk to the bodega at night to get some munchies
I don't want to deal with the longer commute to midtown
I want a walkable neighborhood with more stores and restaurants

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user1111 wrote:
To be fair carjacking can happen in any area, even areas like the ritzy Short Hills Mall In New Jersey. Or even DTJC so your little link does not represent the area.

Sure it could happen anywhere but in areas where carjackers come from and up and coming low income neighborhoods some potential victims might standout more and become a target.

Most JC carjackings are done by folks who live else where, we do get some knuckle heads trying but for the most part most jackers are coming from Newark, the Oranges and Brooklyn.

Brooklyn woman gets 21-year sentence in car theft ring involving 7 from Hudson County

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user1111 wrote:
To be fair carjacking can happen in any area, even areas like the ritzy Short Hills Mall In New Jersey. Or even DTJC so your little link does not represent the area.

Sure it could happen anywhere but in areas where carjackers come from and up and coming low income neighborhoods some potential victims might standout more and become a target.

fat-ass-bike wrote:
Gentrification is spreading as the population increases - Any residential areas near the light-rail stations, train stations or transport hub will be highly desirable now and especially in the future. It will be just a matter of time before the socioeconomic and demographic make-up of society in those area change - Until then, expect crime and you'll need to invest in personal and property security till it does and it will change!

To speed up change, one only needs to establish a highly motivated residential association and lobby like hell, city hall, police and any and all law enforcement bodies.

Landlords would only need to increase their rentals by 5 - 10% yearly and you will see a slow exoduses of the working poor and those of welfare payments. Its sad, but being poor does create an environment of crime and anti-social behavior that can, and has, tarnished an entire class of people.

tunaboy wrote:


I would like to know if there is a crime map around that area. I can only pull up stuff from 2013. There was a murder near westside and virginia ave and another one was on orient ave between kennedy and bergen.

user1111 wrote:
To be fair carjacking can happen in any area, even areas like the ritzy Short Hills Mall In New Jersey. Or even DTJC so your little link does not represent the area.

denised wrote:
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... arjacked_at_gunpoint.html


Just an update to that area.

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tunaboy wrote:
I currently live in Astoria and I am looking to rent in this area, how safe is it? I will be going out in the city and possible coming home late, around 2am. I visited and didn't feel unsafe but this was during the day. There's not much around there and seems a bit desolate.

Also, I read this article and it states that the unshaded areas of "the hill" are still not safe during the night. How accurate is this?
http://thepeacockpress.wordpress.com/ ... lice-stay-out-of-the-red/

The area itself probably isn't that bad, but avoid the light rail on that stretch at night. Get a cab from Journal Sq.

When you say night, after what time is considered unsafe?

After 8pm, when less commuters are around, there is a greater chance of an incident. The light rail and it's stations are not well policed. Kids out for trouble use it to get to Exchange Place, Newport mall and Hoboken for free. Two of the stations you need to pass (MLK and Garfield) are in the red zone on your map, though there have been evening and late night incidents at most of the stations - including Newport, LSP and Exchange Place. The Path trains and buses from NYC are much safer at night.

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tunaboy wrote:
I currently live in Astoria and I am looking to rent in this area, how safe is it? I will be going out in the city and possible coming home late, around 2am. I visited and didn't feel unsafe but this was during the day. There's not much around there and seems a bit desolate.

Also, I read this article and it states that the unshaded areas of "the hill" are still not safe during the night. How accurate is this?
http://thepeacockpress.wordpress.com/ ... lice-stay-out-of-the-red/

The area itself probably isn't that bad, but avoid the light rail on that stretch at night. Get a cab from Journal Sq.

When you say night, after what time is considered unsafe?

denised wrote:
Not sure about the exact area you are looking at, but I can tell you that we moved from Astoria to jersey city as well and found downtown to be the closest to what we left in terms of safety. We lived near the blvd in Astoria on a very house-lined street and it was a bit of an adjustment here. We live about half a mile from grove path station and the closer you get to home the fewer people that are around at night, which is just a little unnerving as a female. But I would recommend downtown if safety is a prime issue for you.

neverleft wrote:
There was a similar thread asking about Westside and Claremont last year. (link below)

I said in the thread like others did the area is good in the day time a lot of activity. At night it is like most parts of JC you need to watch your back. If you are going to work and play in NYC and don?t want the high rents of DT look around Journal Square. There?s more stores, etc (India Square, Super Markets, Junk Food, and White Castle ) in Journal Square then in the West Side/HBLR area and you wouldn?t need to take the HBLR to PATH, the PATH station is right up in Journal Square. (if you didn?t know) So both Journal Square and Westside/HBLR aren?t bad.

http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=29489

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tunaboy wrote:
I currently live in Astoria and I am looking to rent in this area, how safe is it? I will be going out in the city and possible coming home late, around 2am. I visited and didn't feel unsafe but this was during the day. There's not much around there and seems a bit desolate.

Also, I read this article and it states that the unshaded areas of "the hill" are still not safe during the night. How accurate is this?
http://thepeacockpress.wordpress.com/ ... lice-stay-out-of-the-red/

The area itself probably isn't that bad, but avoid the light rail on that stretch at night. Get a cab from Journal Sq.

tunaboy wrote:
I currently live in Astoria and I am looking to rent in this area, how safe is it? I will be going out in the city and possible coming home late, around 2am. I visited and didn't feel unsafe but this was during the day. There's not much around there and seems a bit desolate.

Also, I read this article and it states that the unshaded areas of "the hill" are still not safe during the night. How accurate is this?
http://thepeacockpress.wordpress.com/ ... lice-stay-out-of-the-red/

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Br6dR wrote:
It's a hellish war zone. If you like falling asleep to the sound of gunfire and explosions this is the neighborhood for you. The choice can be between hunger and running the gauntlet to Pathmark. Sometimes the bodies bake for hours in the noontime sun.

Don't forget the scenes evocative of "28 Days Later."

This film is about a virus that makes the infected person mad with extreme rage and hungry for blood.

Br6dR wrote:
It's a hellish war zone. If you like falling asleep to the sound of gunfire and explosions this is the neighborhood for you. The choice can be between hunger and running the gauntlet to Pathmark. Sometimes the bodies bake for hours in the noontime sun.