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At this point, I would have more respect for Christie if he fessed up and admitted that he told Kelly to send that email (which is what really happened).

If what he said today was true (and it isn't), then he is completely out of the loop and has a staff made up largely of total jerks and morons.

So if you feel that way, how do you feel about Obama and Obamacare, and Mrs. Clinton and Benghazi?

You already applaud Obama for the IRS targeting (and yes, look somewhere else than Rachel Maddow for facts about who was targeted, whose apps were delayed the longest, the percentages of applications investigated/approved depending on whether they were pro or anti Obama) so certainly, if there was a shred of evidence that Christie was involved-you already approve his targeting enemies?

But the fact remains-the Ft Lee mayor wasn't asked for an endorsement, why punish him from Christie's point of view? His staff screwed up. So did the State Department.

In 2016 conegate will be a memory, and Benghazi won't be. The families of the dead and wounded under Mrs. Clinton's watch won't let it. A traffic jam? Meh.

I don't know what Obamacare has to do with anything, but I am a proponent of single-payer healthcare. Thanks for asking. I've already answered regarding Clinton and Benghazi. Again, not relevant to this matter, but thanks for asking.

My info on "IRS Gate" does not come from Rachel Maddow, but from actual IRS documents. I do not watch her show or MSNBC. Maybe on occasion.

Yes, I approve of the way the IRS handled applications for tax-exempt status. It was wise and reasonable.

No, I do not approve of the way Christie abused NJ citizens and used them as pawns to fight back against a diss from the mayor of Ft. Lee.

The situations are not at all comparable to a rational person.

Don't worry about Hillary Clinton using the life-threatening situations caused by Christie against him. She won't need to. She'll be running against a different Republican. Probably a Republican who used Christie's life-endangering antics against him in the primaries.

Did you miss the APOLOGY that the IRS gave to the special scrutiny given conservative groups? Jay Carney and the White House APOLOGIZED. Rinse, lather, repeat. They admitted malfeasance, and (today) said they'd have investigations on it. (Edited to say today they appointed someone to oversee it). So Obama's administration is guilty of using the IRS for political gain, the question is how far up it goes. So if the buck stops with Christie, it stops with Obama, of course-even if it's overzealous staff at work. Did Obama know about the IRS, like Christie didn't know about conegate?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/po ... ps-2012-election/2149939/

This was proven a non-story. We'll see if Christie has such luck.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08 ... atic-acorn_n_3785717.html

You're calling a White House apology a non-story, especially given that TODAY Obama's Justice Department named a partisan political donor and supporter to lead the investigation? How is it a non story? Did you not see the headlines TODAY? If it's a non-story, why the investigation by the Justice Department?????

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/f ... tments-irs-investigation/

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Monroe wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
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At this point, I would have more respect for Christie if he fessed up and admitted that he told Kelly to send that email (which is what really happened).

If what he said today was true (and it isn't), then he is completely out of the loop and has a staff made up largely of total jerks and morons.

So if you feel that way, how do you feel about Obama and Obamacare, and Mrs. Clinton and Benghazi?

You already applaud Obama for the IRS targeting (and yes, look somewhere else than Rachel Maddow for facts about who was targeted, whose apps were delayed the longest, the percentages of applications investigated/approved depending on whether they were pro or anti Obama) so certainly, if there was a shred of evidence that Christie was involved-you already approve his targeting enemies?

But the fact remains-the Ft Lee mayor wasn't asked for an endorsement, why punish him from Christie's point of view? His staff screwed up. So did the State Department.

In 2016 conegate will be a memory, and Benghazi won't be. The families of the dead and wounded under Mrs. Clinton's watch won't let it. A traffic jam? Meh.

I don't know what Obamacare has to do with anything, but I am a proponent of single-payer healthcare. Thanks for asking. I've already answered regarding Clinton and Benghazi. Again, not relevant to this matter, but thanks for asking.

My info on "IRS Gate" does not come from Rachel Maddow, but from actual IRS documents. I do not watch her show or MSNBC. Maybe on occasion.

Yes, I approve of the way the IRS handled applications for tax-exempt status. It was wise and reasonable.

No, I do not approve of the way Christie abused NJ citizens and used them as pawns to fight back against a diss from the mayor of Ft. Lee.

The situations are not at all comparable to a rational person.

Don't worry about Hillary Clinton using the life-threatening situations caused by Christie against him. She won't need to. She'll be running against a different Republican. Probably a Republican who used Christie's life-endangering antics against him in the primaries.

Did you miss the APOLOGY that the IRS gave to the special scrutiny given conservative groups? Jay Carney and the White House APOLOGIZED. Rinse, lather, repeat. They admitted malfeasance, and (today) said they'd have investigations on it. (Edited to say today they appointed someone to oversee it). So Obama's administration is guilty of using the IRS for political gain, the question is how far up it goes. So if the buck stops with Christie, it stops with Obama, of course-even if it's overzealous staff at work. Did Obama know about the IRS, like Christie didn't know about conegate?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/po ... ps-2012-election/2149939/

This was proven a non-story. We'll see if Christie has such luck.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08 ... atic-acorn_n_3785717.html

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Monroe wrote:
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At this point, I would have more respect for Christie if he fessed up and admitted that he told Kelly to send that email (which is what really happened).

If what he said today was true (and it isn't), then he is completely out of the loop and has a staff made up largely of total jerks and morons.

So if you feel that way, how do you feel about Obama and Obamacare, and Mrs. Clinton and Benghazi?

You already applaud Obama for the IRS targeting (and yes, look somewhere else than Rachel Maddow for facts about who was targeted, whose apps were delayed the longest, the percentages of applications investigated/approved depending on whether they were pro or anti Obama) so certainly, if there was a shred of evidence that Christie was involved-you already approve his targeting enemies?

But the fact remains-the Ft Lee mayor wasn't asked for an endorsement, why punish him from Christie's point of view? His staff screwed up. So did the State Department.

In 2016 conegate will be a memory, and Benghazi won't be. The families of the dead and wounded under Mrs. Clinton's watch won't let it. A traffic jam? Meh.

I don't know what Obamacare has to do with anything, but I am a proponent of single-payer healthcare. Thanks for asking. I've already answered regarding Clinton and Benghazi. Again, not relevant to this matter, but thanks for asking.

My info on "IRS Gate" does not come from Rachel Maddow, but from actual IRS documents. I do not watch her show or MSNBC. Maybe on occasion.

Yes, I approve of the way the IRS handled applications for tax-exempt status. It was wise and reasonable.

No, I do not approve of the way Christie abused NJ citizens and used them as pawns to fight back against a diss from the mayor of Ft. Lee.

The situations are not at all comparable to a rational person.

Don't worry about Hillary Clinton using the life-threatening situations caused by Christie against him. She won't need to. She'll be running against a different Republican. Probably a Republican who used Christie's life-endangering antics against him in the primaries.

Did you miss the APOLOGY that the IRS gave to the special scrutiny given conservative groups? Jay Carney and the White House APOLOGIZED. Rinse, lather, repeat. They admitted malfeasance, and (today) said they'd have investigations on it. (Edited to say today they appointed someone to oversee it). So Obama's administration is guilty of using the IRS for political gain, the question is how far up it goes. So if the buck stops with Christie, it stops with Obama, of course-even if it's overzealous staff at work. Did Obama know about the IRS, like Christie didn't know about conegate?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/po ... ps-2012-election/2149939/

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At this point, I would have more respect for Christie if he fessed up and admitted that he told Kelly to send that email (which is what really happened).

If what he said today was true (and it isn't), then he is completely out of the loop and has a staff made up largely of total jerks and morons.

So if you feel that way, how do you feel about Obama and Obamacare, and Mrs. Clinton and Benghazi?

You already applaud Obama for the IRS targeting (and yes, look somewhere else than Rachel Maddow for facts about who was targeted, whose apps were delayed the longest, the percentages of applications investigated/approved depending on whether they were pro or anti Obama) so certainly, if there was a shred of evidence that Christie was involved-you already approve his targeting enemies?

But the fact remains-the Ft Lee mayor wasn't asked for an endorsement, why punish him from Christie's point of view? His staff screwed up. So did the State Department.

In 2016 conegate will be a memory, and Benghazi won't be. The families of the dead and wounded under Mrs. Clinton's watch won't let it. A traffic jam? Meh.

I don't know what Obamacare has to do with anything, but I am a proponent of single-payer healthcare. Thanks for asking. I've already answered regarding Clinton and Benghazi. Again, not relevant to this matter, but thanks for asking.

My info on "IRS Gate" does not come from Rachel Maddow, but from actual IRS documents. I do not watch her show or MSNBC. Maybe on occasion.

Yes, I approve of the way the IRS handled applications for tax-exempt status. It was wise and reasonable.

No, I do not approve of the way Christie abused NJ citizens and used them as pawns to fight back against a diss from the mayor of Ft. Lee.

The situations are not at all comparable to a rational person.

Don't worry about Hillary Clinton using the life-threatening situations caused by Christie against him. She won't need to. She'll be running against a different Republican. Probably a Republican who used Christie's life-endangering antics against him in the primaries.

CdeCoincy wrote:
and now let's re-evaluate that Hudson River Tunnel.

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and now let's re-evaluate that Hudson River Tunnel.

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Don't worry about Hillary Clinton using the life-threatening situations caused by Christie against him. She won't need to. She'll be running against a different Republican. Probably a Republican who used Christie's life-endangering antics against him in the primaries.

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At this point, I would have more respect for Christie if he fessed up and admitted that he told Kelly to send that email (which is what really happened).

If what he said today was true (and it isn't), then he is completely out of the loop and has a staff made up largely of total jerks and morons.

So if you feel that way, how do you feel about Obama and Obamacare, and Mrs. Clinton and Benghazi?

You already applaud Obama for the IRS targeting (and yes, look somewhere else than Rachel Maddow for facts about who was targeted, whose apps were delayed the longest, the percentages of applications investigated/approved depending on whether they were pro or anti Obama) so certainly, if there was a shred of evidence that Christie was involved-you already approve his targeting enemies?

But the fact remains-the Ft Lee mayor wasn't asked for an endorsement, why punish him from Christie's point of view? His staff screwed up. So did the State Department.

In 2016 conegate will be a memory, and Benghazi won't be. The families of the dead and wounded under Mrs. Clinton's watch won't let it. A traffic jam? Meh.

Republicans and pundits may have been impressed by the way in which the governor spoke and showed contrition, but the substance of what he said did little to downplay the significance of the scandal.

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People keep mentioning Benghazi. It's already been proven that the attack was spontaneous and then co-opted by local warlords. Kind of like looting a store. Stevens didn't want a massive security detail. He was well liked by Libyans and had just helped them win their liberation. He knew things weren't great there but no one knew of any specific threats. The anti-Islamic film sparked the outrage and warlords co-opted the outrage to make a political statement. Only thing I disagree with is that Obama has allowed the prime suspect to remain free. In any case, this Christie thing will probably blow over by next year. He just better hope he kept a reasonable distance from the actual machinations. Kind of like what Healy did in the pay for play scandal. No doubt Christie knew something but for his sake he better hope that only his subordinates take the fall.

Nonsense, unless you're drinking Kool Aid through a straw made from the page of a discredited NY Times article. And the article has been discredited by Democrats as well, it's a bi-partisan rejection of the Hilary puff piece.



http://washingtonexaminer.com/new-yor ... -benghazi/article/2541379

That article supports everything I said. A disorganized attack/looting fueled by an anti-Islamic film. More organized warlords then joined the attack. They had just finished fighting the Libyan military so were they experienced, organized and well-armed? DUH! The only link to Al Qaeda was ONE phone call to a person who knew nothing of the attack and was surprised it had happened. I guess Repubs just lump any brown skinned people together as being Al Qaeda? In any case, if I throw a smoke bomb into the PATH train then that could be construed as "Terrorist". Beating the Benghazi drum ain't gonna work.

You don't believe Diane Feinstein and all the other Democrats calling it a terror attack? Oopsie.

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People keep mentioning Benghazi. It's already been proven that the attack was spontaneous and then co-opted by local warlords. Kind of like looting a store. Stevens didn't want a massive security detail. He was well liked by Libyans and had just helped them win their liberation. He knew things weren't great there but no one knew of any specific threats. The anti-Islamic film sparked the outrage and warlords co-opted the outrage to make a political statement. Only thing I disagree with is that Obama has allowed the prime suspect to remain free. In any case, this Christie thing will probably blow over by next year. He just better hope he kept a reasonable distance from the actual machinations. Kind of like what Healy did in the pay for play scandal. No doubt Christie knew something but for his sake he better hope that only his subordinates take the fall.

Nonsense, unless you're drinking Kool Aid through a straw made from the page of a discredited NY Times article. And the article has been discredited by Democrats as well, it's a bi-partisan rejection of the Hilary puff piece.



http://washingtonexaminer.com/new-yor ... -benghazi/article/2541379

That article supports everything I said. A disorganized attack/looting fueled by an anti-Islamic film. More organized warlords then joined the attack. They had just finished fighting the Libyan military so were they experienced, organized and well-armed? DUH! The only link to Al Qaeda was ONE phone call to a person who knew nothing of the attack and was surprised it had happened. I guess Repubs just lump any brown skinned people together as being Al Qaeda? In any case, if I throw a smoke bomb into the PATH train then that could be construed as "Terrorist". Beating the Benghazi drum ain't gonna work.

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People keep mentioning Benghazi. It's already been proven that the attack was spontaneous and then co-opted by local warlords. Kind of like looting a store. Stevens didn't want a massive security detail. He was well liked by Libyans and had just helped them win their liberation. He knew things weren't great there but no one knew of any specific threats. The anti-Islamic film sparked the outrage and warlords co-opted the outrage to make a political statement. Only thing I disagree with is that Obama has allowed the prime suspect to remain free. In any case, this Christie thing will probably blow over by next year. He just better hope he kept a reasonable distance from the actual machinations. Kind of like what Healy did in the pay for play scandal. No doubt Christie knew something but for his sake he better hope that only his subordinates take the fall.

Nonsense, unless you're drinking Kool Aid through a straw made from the page of a discredited NY Times article. And the article has been discredited by Democrats as well, it's a bi-partisan rejection of the Hilary puff piece.



http://washingtonexaminer.com/new-yor ... -benghazi/article/2541379

Atsushi wrote:

How media covered Christie. This is the biggest news today.

http://observer.com/2014/01/chris-christie-coverage/

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At this point, I would have more respect for Christie if he fessed up and admitted that he told Kelly to send that email (which is what really happened).

If what he said today was true (and it isn't), then he is completely out of the loop and has a staff made up largely of total jerks and morons.

So if you feel that way, how do you feel about Obama and Obamacare, and Mrs. Clinton and Benghazi?

You already applaud Obama for the IRS targeting (and yes, look somewhere else than Rachel Maddow for facts about who was targeted, whose apps were delayed the longest, the percentages of applications investigated/approved depending on whether they were pro or anti Obama) so certainly, if there was a shred of evidence that Christie was involved-you already approve his targeting enemies?

Monroe wrote:But the fact remains-the Ft Lee mayor wasn't asked for an endorsement, why punish him from Christie's point of view? His staff screwed up. So did the State Department.

Monroe wrote:In 2016 conegate will be a memory, and Benghazi won't be. The families of the dead and wounded under Mrs. Clinton's watch won't let it. A traffic jam? Meh.

Crazy_Chester wrote:
At this point, I would have more respect for Christie if he fessed up and admitted that he told Kelly to send that email (which is what really happened).

If what he said today was true (and it isn't), then he is completely out of the loop and has a staff made up largely of total jerks and morons.

nyrgravey9 wrote:
Holy sh*t Chester, you truly have lost touch with reality.

nyrgravey9 wrote:
Holy sh*t Chester, you truly have lost touch with reality.

Monroe wrote:
Pebble has his/her dunce cap on again.

He/she wants me to prove that the fix is in (right, a Democrat and Obama financial contributor and supporter being put in charge of the IRS investigation), talk about a fox being put in charge of the hen house,

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and then he/she says

the Kelly woman already has a job. Did I miss that somewhere? Care to offer up anything to support that??

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Baroni and Wildstein forced to resign is the same as being fired, like Martin Bashir and Baldwin 'resigning'.

And Stepien was given the heave ho, did you miss that?