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Are you kidding? By what standard have African American's lives improved under Obama?

Care to share some facts to support your theory? (Like poverty levels, unemployment, food stamp participation).

And let me debunk your argument in advance

it's not Bush's fault, and there is no evidence that 'it would have been worse under a Republican'.

My theory is that black people are smart enough to determine which candidate would be better for them.

I didn't say that African Americans situation improved under Obama. Decades of systematic racial discrimination and downfall can't be just wiped out over night just because we have a black President for 5 years.

To argue that African Americans made a bad choice is one thing. But to say they are too stupid to make a decision for themselves is racist.

Perhaps you can enlighten me how African Americans would have been better off under Romny.

But how could possibly African Americans have come to such conclusion that Romny would be a better choice for them a year ago?

Remember 47% comment? He clearly said that it's not his job to worry about these people. A good portion of 47% is African Americans, yes?

First, it's insulting or ignorant to misspell Romney. I avoid calling our President, say, Nobama.

Second, circle back to your statement that blacks are better off under Obama, and would be worse under Romney.

I'll wait for proof of your statements before proceeding, of course.

Of course, you may want to check with the head of the NAACP for his, er, somewhat more involved interest in the subject.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2 ... people-worse-under-obama/

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Atshushi, asking voters to provide the same information they need to open a bank account, board an airplane, or get a drivers license is hardly onerous, except to those who want to support voting fraud.

Please read up on Jersey City mayor Frank Hague when you get a chance . . . lol.

And btw, just how easy is it to become a citizen in Japan if you're a foreigner and how easy is it to vote there? I'd love to know.

Monroe wrote:
Atshushi, asking voters to provide the same information they need to open a bank account, board an airplane, or get a drivers license is hardly onerous, except to those who want to support voting fraud.

Please read up on Jersey City mayor Frank Hague when you get a chance . . . lol.

And btw, just how easy is it to become a citizen in Japan if you're a foreigner and how easy is it to vote there? I'd love to know.

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Are you kidding? By what standard have African American's lives improved under Obama?

Care to share some facts to support your theory? (Like poverty levels, unemployment, food stamp participation).

And let me debunk your argument in advance

it's not Bush's fault, and there is no evidence that 'it would have been worse under a Republican'.

My theory is that black people are smart enough to determine which candidate would be better for them.

I didn't say that African Americans situation improved under Obama. Decades of systematic racial discrimination and downfall can't be just wiped out over night just because we have a black President for 5 years.

To argue that African Americans made a bad choice is one thing. But to say they are too stupid to make a decision for themselves is racist.

Perhaps you can enlighten me how African Americans would have been better off under Romny.

But how could possibly African Americans have come to such conclusion that Romny would be a better choice for them a year ago?

Remember 47% comment? He clearly said that it's not his job to worry about these people. A good portion of 47% is African Americans, yes?

Monroe wrote:
Are you kidding? By what standard have African American's lives improved under Obama?

Care to share some facts to support your theory? (Like poverty levels, unemployment, food stamp participation).

And let me debunk your argument in advance

it's not Bush's fault, and there is no evidence that 'it would have been worse under a Republican'.

All well and good, but if 99% of white voters voted for a white candidate running against a black candidate you'd be the first to cry 'RACIST!'.

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As someone who truly believes GOP is a racist party (though I don't think Christie himself is a racist)

This, here is why you're a hateful idiot. You literally just contradicted yourself (emphasis on DICT).

I am happy and proud to be called that by a racist like yourself. Thank you!

Boy, do I wish we had this debate in person.

You still haven't answered to my earlier question. You said that African Americans voted for Obama only because he is black. That's a racist statement. I find that extremely offensive.

It implies that African Americans are too stupid to know under which president their lives would be better off. I was absolutely horrified by your statement (But I didn't call you a racist then until you started name calling).

If I had mis-interpreted your statement, I do apologize for that.

Please explain.

Why African Americans overwhelmingly voting for Obama is a bad thing or racist? It's in part fighting against racism.

Let's even concede that exactly as you suggested that they voted for Obama ONLY because he is black. What's wrong with that? They have lived under systematic racial discrimination for decades. They finally see a familiar face as the President. Just put yourself in their position.

But I re-state my opinion about that. I think that African Americans are PLENTY SMART to know under which president they would be better off.

If a Japanese American becomes the GOP presidential nominee, would I vote for him/her? Of course not. Because I know under DEM president, my life and lives of people I care about would be better off.

All well and good, but if 99% of white voters voted for a white candidate running against a black candidate you'd be the first to cry 'RACIST!'.

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That Monroe is one angry young man, "with his fist in the air and his head in the sand"

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As someone who truly believes GOP is a racist party (though I don't think Christie himself is a racist)

This, here is why you're a hateful idiot. You literally just contradicted yourself (emphasis on DICT).

I am happy and proud to be called that by a racist like yourself. Thank you!

Boy, do I wish we had this debate in person.

You still haven't answered to my earlier question. You said that African Americans voted for Obama only because he is black. That's a racist statement. I find that extremely offensive.

It implies that African Americans are too stupid to know under which president their lives would be better off. I was absolutely horrified by your statement (But I didn't call you a racist then until you started name calling).

If I had mis-interpreted your statement, I do apologize for that.

Please explain.

Why African Americans overwhelmingly voting for Obama is a bad thing or racist? It's in part fighting against racism.

Let's even concede that exactly as you suggested that they voted for Obama ONLY because he is black. What's wrong with that? They have lived under systematic racial discrimination for decades. They finally see a familiar face as the President. Just put yourself in their position.

But I re-state my opinion about that. I think that African Americans are PLENTY SMART to know under which president they would be better off.

If a Japanese American becomes the GOP presidential nominee, would I vote for him/her? Of course not. Because I know under DEM president, my life and lives of people I care about would be better off.

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If there's nothing to this, why did Christie's PA appointees resign?

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... _closure_controversy.html

They resigned, like Martin Bashir 'resigned'. They were fired. And I'll repeat-Christie kicked them out for bad management. Over a minor traffic jam. As opposed to Mrs. Clinton and Obama, who haven't fired anyone over Benghazi and Obamacare twin disasters, in which four Americans were killed on the anniversary of 9/11 and a failed website that cost over 600 million dollars.

It's actually pretty astounding that neither Democrat has held ANYONE accountable, and Christie FIRES two of his personal appointees for screwing up.

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Boy, do I wish we had this debate in person. I seriously doubt a bigot like yourself could be so brazen face to face.

Br6dR wrote:
If there's nothing to this, why did Christie's PA appointees resign?

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... _closure_controversy.html

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As someone who truly believes GOP is a racist party (though I don't think Christie himself is a racist)

This, here is why you're a hateful idiot. You literally just contradicted yourself (emphasis on DICT).

I am happy and proud to be called that by a racist like yourself. Thank you!

Boy, do I wish we had this debate in person.

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At the same time, it shouldn't be dominated by one party. So we need a great counter balance. The current GOP is NOT a good counter balance. They are just too anti-minority, anti-gay, anti-women, anti-science. GOP is a relic of the past.

This whole white washing (no pun intended) of the GOP needs to stop. It makes you and people like you sound woefully ignorant.

You take the stances of the most visible and stupid (Palin and her ilk) and apply it to the whole party.

Trust me, the Dems have quite their share of racist (Sharpton, etc.), pro-life/"anti women" (Jim Oberstar, Joe Donnelly, Steve Driehaus), anti-minority (Obama - don't really see many/any high ranking minorities in this cabinet do you? Robert Byrd), anti-science (Robert F Kennedy, California Dems who supported Prop 37), so don't play this stupid game.

NO, I will not stop. At every opportunity I get, I will continue to speak how racist GOP is. You do what you have to do to promote your agenda. It's your prerogative.

GOP is a racist party.

Atsushi, please provide us with some examples of the GOP's racism. I think you would be taken more seriously if you actually backed up your argument with some facts. It just sounds like you're ranting.

http://republicansareracists.com/

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/

Don't take my words for it.

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As someone who truly believes GOP is a racist party (though I don't think Christie himself is a racist)

This, here is why you're a hateful idiot. You literally just contradicted yourself (emphasis on DICT).

As someone who truly believes GOP is a racist party (though I don't think Christie himself is a racist)

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All this Democratic circle jerk about the local lane closures only shows how they're scared to their pinky toes about Christie.

Four lanes diverted from local access is exactly what compared to four murdered Americans, on the anniversary of 9/11, under the watch of Christie's opponent in 2016-whose department was begged by the murdered Ambassador for help and was denied?

Which is the bigger scandal? A traffic jam or four dead Americans and dozens more injured? An alleged bridge lane coverup, or Benghazi victims being hidden from Congressional enquiries?

Christie, perhaps 'Four lanes closed? What difference does it make'

Mrs. Clinton, on record 'Four dead Americans? What difference does it make?'

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If there's nothing to this, why did Christie's PA appointees resign?

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... _closure_controversy.html

If you think I'm worse than Fox News right winters, I'm fine with that judgement because I truly do hate GOP and I truly do think they are racist.

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At the same time, it shouldn't be dominated by one party. So we need a great counter balance. The current GOP is NOT a good counter balance. They are just too anti-minority, anti-gay, anti-women, anti-science. GOP is a relic of the past.

This whole white washing (no pun intended) of the GOP needs to stop. It makes you and people like you sound woefully ignorant.

You take the stances of the most visible and stupid (Palin and her ilk) and apply it to the whole party.

Trust me, the Dems have quite their share of racist (Sharpton, etc.), pro-life/"anti women" (Jim Oberstar, Joe Donnelly, Steve Driehaus), anti-minority (Obama - don't really see many/any high ranking minorities in this cabinet do you? Robert Byrd), anti-science (Robert F Kennedy, California Dems who supported Prop 37), so don't play this stupid game.

NO, I will not stop. At every opportunity I get, I will continue to speak how racist GOP is. You do what you have to do to promote your agenda. It's your prerogative.

GOP is a racist party.

Atsushi, please provide us with some examples of the GOP's racism. I think you would be taken more seriously if you actually backed up your argument with some facts. It just sounds like you're ranting.

http://republicansareracists.com/

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/

Don't take my words for it.

Those are both links from very biased sites. Do you have anything from an unbiased site that doesn't just support your misgivings about the GOP? I'm not supportive of either party, but you sound worse than the nut job right wingers on Fox News. Your language is full of hate, and it doesn't help your party's image. Since we're throwing links around, here's one to check out:

http://hnn.us/article/3554