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Re: Jersey City to require gun vendors to answer Qs about gun safety
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What if Glock, who in my opinion, makes the best service pistols do not answer the question appropriately? Will they award the contract to another manufacturer whose product is inferior?

Criminals may have better weapons than the LEO who is protecting you. Nice, huh?

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Sure the mayor gets points for such an initiative, but damn if that isn?t an encouraging development from getting points for the national tradition of keeping one?s mouth shut and doing business as usual.


+1, Frank. Thanks!


Exactly, JC police and law abiding citizens will be at a disadvantage because they didn't buy into a 'kumbiya' useless initiative. 'Progressivism' at work.

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What if Glock, who in my opinion, makes the best service pistols do not answer the question appropriately? Will they award the contract to another manufacturer whose product is inferior?

Criminals may have better weapons than the LEO who is protecting you. Nice, huh?

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Sure the mayor gets points for such an initiative, but damn if that isn?t an encouraging development from getting points for the national tradition of keeping one?s mouth shut and doing business as usual.


+1, Frank. Thanks!

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Sure the mayor gets points for such an initiative, but damn if that isn?t an encouraging development from getting points for the national tradition of keeping one?s mouth shut and doing business as usual.


+1, Frank. Thanks!

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Private companies can moralize all they want with the money they spend if they're trying to align vendors with their philosophy.

Public entities that operate upon the sweat of our tax dollars should not engage in the same way.

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I'm not sure how this idea works, but it would be interesting if all companies had a moral compass when taking on vendors.


It?s unnecessary if not pointless to debate the issue on moral grounds. There?s no reason to bother with morality when it?s already an issue of professional ethics as they apply to a well documented public health and safety problem that is unique among similarly advanced nations. We can objectively recognize that the most influential parties--who also stand to profit the most both monetarily and politically--have been avoiding as much their share of the responsibility as possible, and that it?s ordinary citizens who pay for their success with our lives.

Sure the mayor gets points for such an initiative, but damn if that isn?t an encouraging development from getting points for the national tradition of keeping one?s mouth shut and doing business as usual.

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I'm not sure how this idea works, but it would be interesting if all companies had a moral compass when taking on vendors. Stating that, I'm certain that my moral compass is different than others so I'm sure there would be companies that pick suppliers for the exact reason that I would turn them down. As such, I can't say that I'm all too interested in it.

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Christ.. with all the problem JC has, the administation wastes time coming up with horseshit policies like this?

Muni / police level purchases of firearms is a small fraction of the market when comapared to what civilian buyers purchase in a year. So much so that a good number of manufacturers are refusing to sell to state and local governments that are trying to disarm the public. This policy is just a lame attempt to control or influence vendors outside of a simple purchase contract.


Yup, just as gun manufacturers are pulling out of states that provide a hostile environment for gun owners. Pretty soon the JC Police will be buying bullets on Ocean Avenue if silly directives like this get expanded. Plays well to Fulop's 'progressive' base though, which is the real aim.

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Christ.. with all the problem JC has, the administation wastes time coming up with horseshit policies like this?

Muni / police level purchases of firearms is a small fraction of the market when comapared to what civilian buyers purchase in a year. So much so that a good number of manufacturers are refusing to sell to state and local governments that are trying to disarm the public. This policy is just a lame attempt to control or influence vendors outside of a simple purchase contract.

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Jersey City to require gun vendors to answer Qs about gun safety

By The Associated Press
December 10, 2013 at 3:39 PM

New Jersey's second-largest city will start requiring vendors bidding on gun contracts to answer questions about their positions on gun safety issues.

Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop says he wants municipalities to use their purchasing power to influence the gun-safety conversation.

Bid specifications going out Wednesday in the city of 250,000 for police department guns and ammunition include six questions. One asks whether the manufacturer would commit to preventing its weapons from appearing in violent video games.

A top editor of The Gun Mag, a major gun lobby publication, says he is unaware of any other city ever including so-called corporate responsibility questions in a bid request. He says they unnecessarily politicize the process.

Fulop says the answers will be considered along with product safety and price.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... _qs_about_gun-safety.html

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