heights wrote:

4. Are they really that smart or just cheap labor, shouldn't we rely on our own native born first ? It's true during the WW2 era the U.S.A. excelled, the intelligence of society was less complicated then so it should have been easier for those outside of the U.S.A. to assimilate.

And why didn't more immigration arrive here outside of Europe ?

What makes you think that European America is taking a back seat to the rest of the world there are lots of brilliant people out there who are second, third, and forth generation heck go even as far back as the Mayflower. Don't sell your country short. Did you come from a one parent home ?

heights wrote:
I 'm curious what nationality are you or are you affiliated with these people we are debating about ?

CSURugbyHooker wrote:
1. You left out the best part of my original post: "I don't know if your doc changed up your meds recently or if you're just dead from the neck up..."
2. Actually, it's quite American of me to think you're a complete imbecile and to express my opinion in regards to your xenophobia in a public forum. The crutch of the weak-minded simpleton is to brand somebody "un-american" or "communist" for disagreeing with their misdirected, uneducated logic. Thank you, Mrs. McCarthy.
3. "Why the fare hikes?"
-Billions of tax dollars being wasted on un-winnable "wars on terror" each month instead of being spent on improving US infrastructure.
-WTC rebuilding and cost over-runs.
-The infrastructure of the PA needs to be desperately upgraded.
If tax dollars and private investment aren't going to subsidize these improvements, then the costs are going to be thrown back onto the consumers. Economics 101.
4. Did you ever think that the reason so many Indian people thrive in this country is because they're hard-working, highly educated individuals who will do whatever it takes to succeed and pass these ethics onto their children? The United States has fallen behind the rest of the world in innovation and education, and countries like China and India are thriving like America did post-WWII while the states are basically crumbling. We have a very high population of people in this country that have poor reading, writing, and math skills, and a poor grasp on the sciences, not because the schools are falling apart (which many are), but because they're raised by a parent (or two if they're lucky) that have the same lack of education. We have a very high % of Americans that have only one working skill set, thus making it difficult to be hired into other fields where they have no experience. Mediocrity is the standard now for many Americans and doing what's only necessary to get by and nothing further is becoming more and more the norm. Many jobs are staffed by foreign individuals because Americans wouldn't take these jobs for the pay that is being offered, and/or they view the work as being "below them" (ie. picking crops, flipping burgers, stocking shelves, etc.).

-The Communist

hero69 wrote:
Unfortunately, I don't think the chinese yuan is not rapidly gaining value against the dollar, I wish that were the case. It seems to me that the Chinese government has created good opportunities for its educated citizens, something that India, Nigeria, Bangladesh and a host of other countries should be striving for...

riazw wrote:
TWO COMMENTS in NJ.COM.... SOME ONE KNEW IN THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THIS IS COMING...

de2 August 07, 2011 at 7:34PM

Don't be fooled by any suggestion that the governors didn't know about this. The PA doesn't do anything without getting an OK from Albany and Trenton. They proposed this big increase so the governors could shoot it down. Your supposed to be happy when they propose a smaller increase.
That said, the PA has a real problem. NJ kept the ARC funds, the PA want to plow them back into their capital program. They have the Bayonne Bridge, Gothels Bridge and JFK improvements on their plate and they can't bond for them without more revenue. Recession cut into those incomes like everyone else!

joeschmoe166
Joe Schmoe August 07, 2011 at 8:02PM


de2, if your theory is correct that Cuomo and Christie both knew in advance of these PA fare increases, but are pretending to be absorbing this information only now, then that's a major scandal. Not that this is any surprise, but I don't think voters would be particularly pleased to know that their elected officials are acting out a script. If somebody could establish that Christie & Cuomo actually had conversations with the PA and knew of these proposals long ago, then that would be a major piece of information which underscores how orchestrated all of this corruption is at every level. Surely *somebody* out there knows if the C's were privy to this announcement over a week ago.

hero69 wrote:
Nothing against India, but if it was so great then why don't Indian students go home after they finish their studies. Japanese and European and many students from South America, and increasingly China, do.

heights wrote:
It's not anger it's truth. They are subsidized by cooporate America by way of inverted outsourcing most don't even pay for train fare. We should be hiring our own people to do these jobs. You don't know the half of it. And at least my Jersey accent is American. You must be some sort of communist or un-American to have anger towards me. There is no need to spend money over seas as well as hire foreign born when we are suffering here in the U.S.A. So then why the fare and toll hikes ?? Lets get our priorities straight where we come first. Maybe you should rent the movie The Mouse that Roared. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mouse_That_Roared

CSURugbyHooker wrote:
Foreign accents < your posts.
but you do realize that Indian people make up a significant number of PATH riders, and that they'd feel the pain of the fare hike just like any other person would, 'American' or not, right? That a significant number of people who ride the PATH aren't 'American' by birth and have accents that are unlike your own? If you were born and raised in this area, there's a very good chance that you have that annoying "Joy-zee" and "cwah-fee" accent that makes me want to stab myself in the ear with a q-tip.
Here's an idea: instead of directing your anger at those who don't look and sound like you (which may very well be a great thing), direct your anger at the crooked, corporate interest prioritizing politicians that people keep electing into office that have turned our country into what it is today.

Published: Sunday, August 07, 2011, 3:41 PM
The Jersey Journal By The Jersey Journal

"Port Authority should not penalize the hard working population because, funds are spent on unwanted wars", said Erik -Anders Nilsson, director of Jersey City Peace Movement.

heights wrote:
Well it finally happened we woke up. I got berated, chastised, and insulted because I wasn't PC enough, stated foreign accents are annoying, professing Americans first, and chanted stop outsourcing. Why don't we take care of our own for once. Thank you Esther Winter for wanting our tax dollars to be directed towards our own well being. I am all for a raise but these figures are out of control. Too much too soon.

riazw wrote:
"A 57 percent fare increase on working people will break the backs of many. Unintended consequences will be felt not long after as people continue to struggle through these difficult times. Our tax dollars need to be directed back to taking care of our own, not abroad. This proposed increase needs to be stopped", said Ms. Wintner.
The Port Authority is also looking to hike 30-day unlimited PATH passes from $54 to $89, a jaw-dropping 65 percent.