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Thought you did not want to be a slave? Corporation can't force you. Corporation can't make you do anything. Corporation offers something to you, - but you are free to reject. You do not like what they offer - don't deal with them. Period. Done. But noooooo, this is not what you want! You are not satisfied with the idea that you will refuse corporations. You want to force everyone to behave like you think is right. So what you do - is to call for a Strong Master upon everyone who would force and regulate everybody, - and you are hoping that the Master will be benevolent to YOU, and take care of YOU, - at the expense of the others. And the most ridiculous thing is, - you seem to truly believe that this yearning for a Master who would make everyone to march in lockstep, is somehow and act against slavery.
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What always tickles me is that the common man is enraged at Wall Street and the bankers 6 figure salary. Where's the outrage at MLB players who make 10 times that? or the NFL player? The NBA is in a lockout because they can't agree over how many millions of dollars to pay their players. But yeah, let's tax the greedy bankers.
Posted on: 2011/7/3 5:36
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If I were born a slave, even to the kindest master, I would still be a slave. The power of corporations is institutionalized and systemic. I can no more choose to not participate as I could choose not to breath. That doesn't make these institutions good or positive forces. That doesn't mean the average person should be defending them. Your response is like telling a woman facing the glass ceiling at work to just not be a woman, or a minority facing racial prejudice to not be a minority. Instead of allowing corporations to do as they wish, we could have more aggressive regulation, better enforcement and higher corporate taxes. If bankers want to get piad six and seven figure salaries, fine, but give back to the rest of the nation in higher income taxes. Attacking organized labor, one of the last lines of defense between the corporation and the working individual is not the solution. Allowing Goldman Sachs to dictate financial policy or Exxon Mobile to dictate energy policy or Northrop Grumman to dictate foreign policy is not good for the people. And yes, every single American participates in a system that enriches and empowers these and companies like them. But that doesn't mean we need to shill for them. That doesn't mean we voted for the politicians that line their pockets with tax dollars.
Posted on: 2011/7/3 4:22
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No smart reply? Yes I did, didn't I :)
Posted on: 2011/7/3 4:01
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Dear Ianmac,
Very few people are more educated than me. gullible idiot? I will not take offense, as most Americas are gullible idiots voting for some socialist named Barack Hussein Obama that bankrupted IL. Dedicate to a corporation? What the F$(K? how about Pepsico, Google, Johnson & Johnson? The liberals in this town are out of control. The towns spends over $70mm more per year then they already extort? What, tax the rich? Further penalize people that already support the 50% that pay zero? And the person that blamed things on Bush? Obama ran on a campaign that would get us out or wars? Hello??
Posted on: 2011/7/3 3:13
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Oh! You got me!
Posted on: 2011/7/3 3:11
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How much does the US government spend every year on defense? A government you elect. How much do you spend every year on gas? How much do you borrow? Look in the mirror and cast the first stone. Ianmac47 - you bankroll the bankers, oilmen, and arms dealers, like everyone else in the US. You bankroll them because you NEED them. Drop the attitude and pretense that they are the problem.
Posted on: 2011/7/3 1:58
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I'm not sure when it became a virtue to dedicate your life to a corporation. There are very few evils in this world that cannot be directly linked to bankers, oilmen, or arms dealers. The fact that you have been convinced to defend these people indicates that you are either a gullible idiot or one of them.
Posted on: 2011/7/3 1:42
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Charon "Unions aren't the issue, it's the Goldman Sachs', hedge funds, oil companies and defense contractors. They have profited off the pain of the poor and middle class"
Really? Now I hate defending GS, but the government chose/chooses to keep it a going concern, & they repaid their loans and occasionally pay 100mm+ bullship fines to FINRA/SEC, so it comes out in the wash, and you are never forced to do business with GS at rates you have no control over. Hedge Funds? you have no idea what one is, nor how they operates, nor recognize that they are small businesses, that employ competitive hard working people, ie non-Union. & these folks get fired if they slack off for a second. Most union folks can sleep for 3 months a yr and still get paid. As of the rest... it seems you despise all private companies, that pay salaries of public folks..odd.
Posted on: 2011/7/3 1:07
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Ah, nostalgia... It's as if I am again 18 and again sitting in "Scientific Communism" class in college... It was nice to be 18.
Posted on: 2011/7/2 17:37
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I wonder if the Lt. Governor will also be away on vacation.
Posted on: 2011/7/2 16:30
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Christie is doing what he was elected to do - balance NJ's budget. As for the other crap, so convenient to blame everyone but ourselves. Today's mess is more down to government meddling in home ownership, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, giving people cheap/free lines of credit through their homes, then killing that by scapegoating the lenders. Consumers have always helped the US spend our way out of recessions. With Dodd-Frank, Volcker, and other punitive banking measures we've cut ourselves off at the knees this time. Public employees will feel pain like everyone else, when there isn't the revenues and taxes to pay the bills. Get over it.
Posted on: 2011/7/2 9:08
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Charon, you are wasting your time trying to talk sense to this hateful moron
Posted on: 2011/7/2 6:18
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You are consistent teacher. A consistent right wing jerk. It's people like George Bush taking this country into two wars that weren't paid for and then cutting taxes for the wealthy that has brought us to where we are. Unions aren't the issue, it's the Goldman Sachs', hedge funds, oil companies and defense contractors. They have profited off the pain of the poor and middle class.
Posted on: 2011/7/2 2:50
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If anyone in the history of NJ politics has earned a vacation its this man. Unions and all lazy government workers are killing this state and country. He is one reason to be thankful on
this 4th of July. God Bless.
Posted on: 2011/7/2 0:21
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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011 ... budget_af.html#incart_hbx
Gov. Christie signs state budget after series of deep cuts Published: Friday, July 01, 2011, 9:00 AM Updated: Friday, July 01, 2011, 9:09 AM By Statehouse Bureau Staff Enlarge Ed Murray/The Star-Ledger Gov. Chris Christie gives his budget proposal to both houses of the Legislature. (Ed Murray/The Star-Ledger) Gov. Christie delivers 2011 budget address gallery (37 photos) TRENTON ? Gov. Chris Christie took an ax to the state budget Thursday. Destroying Democrats? efforts to restore funding to public assistance programs, the Republican governor Thursday slashed $900 million from a budget he blasted as "unconstitutional." What was left was a $29.7 billion spending plan that cuts funding Democrats had sought to add for the state?s financially troubled cities, Medicaid, college tuition programs and suburban schools. He also left $640 million unspent, the largest surplus in the past decade and double what the last three governors have left. And Christie vetoed bills that would tax millionaires more to fund schools and provide tax relief for low-wage earners. At a news conference to unveil the cuts he made with line-item vetoes, Christie blasted the Democratic budget as "unconstitutional" and based on "fantasy revenue found between the cushions." "They decided to deceive the citizens of the state with a budget that makes them look like Santa Claus in an election year," Christie said. "How shocking, politicians deceiving and pandering to voters to get re-elected." Christie had one explanation for his individual reductions: "We can?t afford it." Democrats, who Christie said were "pandering to special interests" are expected to return next week and fight the reductions. Video: Christie line item vetoes budget Gov. Chris Christie gutted the state budget today using the line item veto. Calling the Democrats budget a fantasy, Christie cut $900 million out of the proposed budget. (Video by Megan DeMarco / The Star-Ledger) Watch video "There are special interests," Senate President Stephen Sweeney (D-Gloucester) responded. "They are called seniors, the middle class and low-income families who the governor just decimated. We are just beginning to digest the cuts in the budget, but they are extremely cruel and mean-spirited." On Tuesday, Sweeney stood smiling next to Christie as the governor signed a sweeping overhaul of employee pensions and health benefits. Thursday, Sweeney stood in the back of the room at the governor?s Statehouse news conference with a somber look, later calling it the "most disappointing day in my entire career as a legislator." "He makes it very hard to work with him," Sweeney said. After handing down pages of line-item vetoes, the governor?s office refused to comment on or clarify any of the reductions. Christie also cut deeply into his original proposal, trimming financial aid for the state?s most troubled cities from $149 million to $10 million. The biggest recipients last year were Camden, which was awarded $69 million, and Trenton, which was given $27 million from that fund. "These municipalities will not be able to survive," said Bill Dressel, executive director of the New Jersey State League of Municipalities. "I think this is going to wreak havoc in communities." The governor eliminated hundreds of millions of dollars Democrats wanted to restore to the Medicaid health insurance program for the poor, and to FamilyCare, the health plan for working poor people, said Sen. Joseph Vitale (D-Middlesex). "What he?s done is unconscionable, when the state can deny thousands access to health care and take it away for thousands more," Vitale said. Christie also cut school funding by $500 million, slashing the $1.1 billion Democrats had sought. Christie left an extra $473 million that the Supreme Court ordered him to send to urban schools and $167 million for suburban and rural school districts that Democrats had added. Video: Senate President Sweeney responds to Christie veto Sweeney said today was "the most disappointing day" in his legislative career, and said Gov. Chris Christie's vetoes were "cruel" and "mean-spirited." (Video by Megan DeMarco / The Star-Ledger) Watch video Other notable budget actions included: ? Christie for the second straight year cut $7.5 million for family planning centers like Planned Parenthood. ? Funding for "After the 3," an after-school program for low-income children, was eliminated. ? He cut $10 million for a program that provides legal representation for the poor in non-criminal cases. ? Christie will make a pension payment of almost $500 million in the next fiscal year. ? He left intact funding for "Senior Freeze," a program that provides property tax relief for senior citizens. Christie cut the budget using his "line-item veto" authority, which allows him to reduce or remove portions of the budget and then sign it into law. The changes will not require legislative approval. Calling them "mean-spirited and vindictive," Sen. Barbara Buono (D-Middlesex) pointed to a $250,000 reduction in funding for the Office of Legislative Services, non-partisan legislative staff that disagreed with Christie about how much revenue the state is going to collect next year. Christie also cut salaries and wages for legislative staff: about $3 million in the Senate and $1 million the Assembly. "It?s retaliatory because they came up with very responsible revenues that he just disagreed with," Buono said. With the budget wrapped up, Christie said he is leaving this weekend for a two-week family vacation.
Posted on: 2011/7/1 21:33
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