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Re: Hard Grove wants an Entertainment and Dance License: help petition against it
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The location is not anywhere near a residence, so i fail to see why they would fail to be allowed to apply for a permit.

If they become a public nuisance because of it (traffic, crime, etc), then they should lose it.

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I, for one, believe EVERYTHING Healy says!

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You obviously have never read the plaque hanging above the cash register at Shadman. Mayor Healy calls it an "elegant" setting in there.

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Margon Rocks!....Great family!

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LOL. A high rise literally on top of the train station. You're kidding me about noise right?


You've obviously never lived near a bar/dance club. Evening street/transit noise is nothing compared to crappy house music.


This. The train is underground and you can't hear it at all. Traffic is background noise and the street is practically empty after 8pm.

The music was so loud when they had outdoor entertainment that I literally couldn't turn up my TV enough to hear it over the music.

Like I said. Indoors is fine, do what you want. Outside music would be fine as well, but not until 1 am and not at a volume that makes conversation a block away difficult.

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Come on Folks lets be real. HG is the only good restaurant in Jersey City with great food and fun. You must be a hater if you disagree, you must be employed by some other establishment if you oppose, otherwise live and live well. For those against the entertainment license, which we know who you are, get a real job and focus on crime in JC, better roads, less taxes, less corruption in government, clean government, better sidewalks, cleanner streets, more cops on the street. Please be real, music and art and culture is missing embrace it and welcome it, that is what Jersey City is about. Yes we the community support Hard Grove getting their license. We need more establishments like HG.

GO HG you have the community support.


Nope - just someone who had more than a few bad meals and lousy service at Hard Grove. Sorry, but I gave you guys several chances under the current owner. Each time, the dining experience was miserable. The food sucked and the service was even worse. Good luck with the license - I don't care either way as I don't intend to be a customer in the future and I no longer live near there. I'll be spending my hard-earned dollars at La Conguita if I ever get a hankering for Cuban, or at Margon in the city.

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Because people think a small mom&pop place like Sava is a dump so they go to freaking Panera or Olive Garden instead. I bet sjcarolan uses hand sanitizer every 10 minutes.


It's the same deal with Shadman a few block down. Good, cheap food, but the place looks like a dump as well.


You obviously have never read the plaque hanging above the cash register at Shadman. Mayor Healy calls it an "elegant" setting in there.

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Rosie, it's way too early to be drinking.

Actually, it's almost 5:00. I should be drinking.

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Sweetie be real and come up with sothing creative other than a cut and paste job yes we support the license and cant wait to dance the the night away hugs and kisses LOL

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honey I do not at all over priced been around and ate at all yes HG food fab. dont be fooled


whatever that means

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must be an employee, no one one defend them like that. no one ever said they were the worst, they just really don't care about serving people.

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Come on Folks lets be real. HG is the only good restaurant in Jersey City with great food and fun. You must be a hater if you disagree, you must be employed by some other establishment if you oppose, otherwise live and live well. For those against the entertainment license, which we know who you are, get a real job and focus on crime in JC, better roads, less taxes, less corruption in government, clean government, better sidewalks, cleanner streets, more cops on the street. Please be real, music and art and culture is missing embrace it and welcome it, that is what Jersey City is about. Yes we the community support Hard Grove getting their license. We need more establishments like HG.

GO HG you have the community support.

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especially with la conguita just 2 blocks away


+1 to La Conquita. The food and service is so much better. Skip Hard Grove and leave it for the fools who don't know better.

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Because people think a small mom&pop place like Sava is a dump so they go to freaking Panera or Olive Garden instead. I bet sjcarolan uses hand sanitizer every 10 minutes.


It's the same deal with Shadman a few block down. Good, cheap food, but the place looks like a dump as well.

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LOL. A high rise literally on top of the train station. You're kidding me about noise right?


You've obviously never lived near a bar/dance club. Evening street/transit noise is nothing compared to crappy house music.

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Sava, but only because they have a banner instead of a real sign. Would a real sign make it all better for your faint heart?


Nothing to do with my faint heart. I was just responding to tommyc's not understanding why Sava struggles. I would contend that if they paid a little attention to how their business is perceived, ie spending a couple bucks on a sign and doing something with the interior, they would do much better.

Take two places serving the exact same food. Let me know who does better, the place that looks like Sava or one that looks like your garden variety cheap eats place (a la Grand Sichuan).

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sava rules

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Sava, but only because they have a banner instead of a real sign. Would a real sign make it all better for your faint heart?

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Not at all tommy c, but what about that place is not a dump? Stand across the street and tell me which business in that cluster sticks out like a sore thumb

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LMAO at Sava being a dump. Let me guess, you'd prefer a nice sterile-looking Panera Bread in it's place?
THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS

Because people think a small mom&pop place like Sava is a dump so they go to freaking Panera or Olive Garden instead. I bet sjcarolan uses hand sanitizer every 10 minutes.

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Forget about Sava. Not relevant here. I just changed the subject line of this thread to "Re: Hard Grove wants an Entertainment and Dance License: help petition for it".

That's all I have to say, other than I am not an employee, owner or any other kind of shill for the Hard Grove. I think I've only been there a couple of times.

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LMAO at Sava being a dump. Let me guess, you'd prefer a nice sterile-looking Panera Bread in it's place?

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Now if only the Hard Grove could improve its food and service....


Both abysmal. It's truly amazing that they have stayed in business all these years, while favorites like Sava struggle, and great places like Ox close. What is Hard Grove doing right? Perplexing!



Ox struggled becasue it took them forever to open (thanks JC BD) and were never able to dig out of the hole.

Sava is hardly a favorite, the place is a dump and an eyesore on that block. My wife is Polish so we are forced to shop their occasionally (now that Europa is closed), but the place is a mess.

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Both abysmal. It's truly amazing that they have stayed in business all these years, while favorites like Sava struggle, and great places like Ox close. What is Hard Grove doing right? Perplexing!


Got me. I can only guess that it's location, location, location. There must be a certain hard core of people out there who are simply too lazy and/or ignorant to wander more than a block from the PATH for much better food. That and the fact that their taste buds must be completely dead.


I just pretend I'm on island time.
I bet it would be a great case study for a sociologist.

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agreed, i never rated hard grove highly in either department, especially with la conguita just 2 blocks away. however, if they have music and dancing, it would be a welcome addition, regardless of how crappy their lechon is

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Their food is ok, but I'm too tired of their service to ever go back. I came in on a Tuesday night in the summer while it was dead. There were 3 waitresses leaning against the bar, I stood by the door said I wanted an outside table, one of them said they'll be right there to give us menus. 15 minutes later I looked in to see them still leaning against the bar and waived goodbye to them while they asked why I was leaving. Then got delicious food at wild fusion in a matter of minutes.

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Both abysmal. It's truly amazing that they have stayed in business all these years, while favorites like Sava struggle, and great places like Ox close. What is Hard Grove doing right? Perplexing!


Got me. I can only guess that it's location, location, location. There must be a certain hard core of people out there who are simply too lazy and/or ignorant to wander more than a block from the PATH for much better food. That and the fact that their taste buds must be completely dead.

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Now if only the Hard Grove could improve its food and service....


Both abysmal. It's truly amazing that they have stayed in business all these years, while favorites like Sava struggle, and great places like Ox close. What is Hard Grove doing right? Perplexing!

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Now if only the Hard Grove could improve its food and service....

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