CatDog wrote:
Sava, but only because they have a banner instead of a real sign. Would a real sign make it all better for your faint heart?

tommyc_37 wrote:
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JadedJC wrote:
Now if only the Hard Grove could improve its food and service....

Both abysmal. It's truly amazing that they have stayed in business all these years, while favorites like Sava struggle, and great places like Ox close. What is Hard Grove doing right? Perplexing!

brooklyn wrote:
Its been a great few of years here in Jersey (5yrs) total but I will gladly be heading back home to Brooklyn in a few months. Sold my place and bought a larger place in Propsect Heights. Great neighborhood with a multitude of great restaurants, Prospect Park 9 blocks away (which has plenty of shade trees), beautiful brownstones for blocks and blocks that Downtown JC cant even hold a match to.
My taxes here in JC for an 850sf 1 bed, 1bath are almost 5K a year, (ridiculous), my new abated taxes in BK will be $17 per month for 25 years. NY does abatements the way abatements should be done, not this stupid ass payment in lieu taxes crap which are property taxes by another name. So HAPPY, will never, ever, ever return to NJ to live.

phDog wrote:
well regardless of the time of day, i will not hesitate to kick your dog as a last resort to keep it away from either the fragile or dog aggressive dogs i sometimes walk. i will feel terrible for the dog and probably say something less than nice to you. just a heads up.

neanoora wrote:
Also, I find it extremely curious that now when the weather is nice, the park if full of dogs. What about in the middle of winter - don't those dogs need to run out then too? We certainly take our kid to outings regardless of the weather - he needs fresh air just like anyone else.

corybraiterman wrote:
what dish(es) would you recommend?

http://teppanjc.com/menu.html for the google impaired

bsun wrote:


I've lived quite few places such as 34th on 1st avenue and Battery Park. According to you, those aren't consider urban atmosphere because they are located a easy 10 mins walk to the station.

JCSHEP wrote:


Thanks for clarifying, I think i errantly wrapped in sentiments from earlier posts.

I dont need a GPS to prove my point, I can tell you from personal experience. I offered the GPS since you have actually never walked around here, yet are posting about how far it is from public transit. It is also a new toy I am dying to use! Looking at Google Maps would also suffice. With respect to shopping...are you under the assumption that there are no stores up here?

marybarr wrote:
Okay--this will probably get me jumped on but aren't you guys the same ones who posted elsewhere that JC is improving and that you like living here?

I am new to JC (2 years) and I think it's pretty good. All of these folk, innocent and guilty, had to be good for something.

JCSHEP wrote:

Lets talk about it...location to transit and what kind of areas you have lived in...


Seriously lets move this discussion to facts. How about we first address location of here relative to the PATH. I hope the following gives you a snapshot of my life living here relative to transportation.

It takes me between 10-12 minutes to walk to JSQ, I estimate it is between .7 and .8 miles away?maybe less. I just got a GPS after getting semi-lost backpacking in Southern Utah this June and can confirm it if you want. We are AS CLOSE as the west side of Hamilton Park from a PATH stop, the park border, not the neighborhood border which is further. This means there are parts of williamsburg further from a subway stop than we are (given not too many).

So, it takes me about 10-12 minutes of casually walking to get to JSQ. I will fully admit, i am a very tall person so add a minute or two for that. The argument that we are far from public transit is fully Bull $!#&. And it comes from people who have never wondered around this area, yet somehow claim to know what they are talking about. Please someone stand up who has actually walked from here to JSQ, to Astor Bar, to the Reservoir, to the ice skating rink, to Grove street (not too much further than JSQ)?not someone who lives on the waterfront and ?knows? about where I live. I live here and I do it all the time.

A) - we have a shuttle if you dont want to walk, B) - we are AS CLOSE as the west side of Hamilton Park from a PATH station. Look at Google or Live maps if you don?t believe me. Am I asserting that the neighborhood similar between here and JSQ, no, and I would not. Most of the people between here and JSQ are family people, and in my experience, real people. And honestly that is why I personally like it.

Is it terrible and unsafe? I don?t think so, I have never had an issue, not even a comment said to me, any of my friends or my girlfriend. Maybe it depends on who you are and how you carry yourself?body language is something we all unconsciously recognize and you will be bleeding from the eyes that you are scared if you are. That wouldn?t be a good thing downtown if that is you at night either. Have you ever lived outside of a fully ?gentrified? place? If not, I understand why you feel uneasy, this is new to you, you don?t know if it is safe. I walk here to JSQ, bike to the waterfront and all around on the weekends, frequent the local businesses, live here like you live downtown with no problems. If you are uncomfortable walking from here to JSQ, OK, fine, you know your bounds and your comfort zone. Understand not all people need the assurances you do!

Oh, and I don?t have a car?.

bsun wrote:


When I said doesn't apply here, I don't mean transportation included. Depends on who you talk to, many that I know doesn't like to live too close to the train station including myself. For people who don?t commute using public transportation, Beacon is fine. It is close enough to get on 78.

Let?s talk about Williamsburg. Which transportation that you know that goes to the booming Williamsburg area and are they close to projects? Better yet, have you been there?

That?s right; I pick up a nice unit at a fair price during the auction. Do I believe the price should be higher? Hell yes. Otherwise, what the hell I?m buying it for. The lower price now doesn't mean the initial price few years back was wrong. The price had adjusted based on market situation. I wouldn't call it overprice few years back because I couldn't afford it.

bsun wrote:

The quote "location, location and location" doesn't applies the same like retail business here. From an investment point of view, you want to get into a potential location before it booms.

$800 maintenance isn't that bad consider all utilities are included and saving of gym membership. Anyone know what is the monthly NYSC membership around here for 2?

marybarr wrote:
The folk will be mixed income so it follows that they will have more money and that retail will be more upscale. Don't forget we at The Beacon are middle to high income and we will use it too. And M360 and the other new residents brought in by gorgeous new construction. Also I am hoping (but hey guy I don't have a crystal ball) it will feature a supermarket, department store, or both, to help bring people from all around to revitalize our area.

BTW-do you run an aviary? Chirping and crowing and all that.

bsun wrote:

I sort of disagree. Best resident area not necessary need to be this close to a station. Let's take Battery Park for an example. It take easily 15 mins to get to the subway from any building in that area.

Personally, I would prefer my place a bit farther from the station instead of Grove Pointe. Too many pedestrian traffic cause pollution and garbage.

Just me.