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by 1stStGuy on 2010/4/12 14:44:40


If it were all about noise, I would have included the douchebags on 2nd st that play beer pong and yell at the top of their lungs unnecessarily. .

are you talking about those morons that were yelling for hours yesterday(sunday) I really wish i had water balloons and a good arm i could have gotten at least one of them. they like to sing while drunk too.

Indios is really scary. I am a woman and I really don't like to be outside at night. I don't even like walking near the place after work. they guys are creepy as hell.

ratslayer wrote:
The Beer Garden is about family, not frat boys. Stop making up stuff, moron

by 1stStGuy on 2010/4/12 14:44:40


If it were all about noise, I would have included the douchebags on 2nd st that play beer pong and yell at the top of their lungs unnecessarily. .

tommyc_37 wrote:
Crushthedemoniac, I have no idea if your last post was directed at me or not, but ... I challenge you to find evidence that I have ever judged peoples' personalities without knowing them. Might I judge a NEIGHBORHOOD based on my knowledge and experiences in the neighborhood? Yes. That's what people do. But never have I judged people as individuals without knowing anything about them.

Again, it's not clear whether your post is directed at me or not, but when did I tell you to leave JC? I thought you didn't even live in JC?

Regarding your "hard to get along with" comment (again not sure if this is directed at me), but you are the only person on this message board who I don't get along with on a regular basis.

I've never been called pretentious before. I don't know where you would even get the impression that I am pretentious. Pretentious means having an over-inflated sense of self worth, which is a quality that I really don't think I have ever exhibited here, or in "real" life.

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Crazy_Chester wrote:
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crushthedemoniac wrote:
PS I have a good education, good job, and usually go against the norm onthis board. For some reason people cant handle it and feel the need to chalk it up to jealousy or lack of education??? Im really starting to wonder whats worse off for JC the pretentious pr**ks or the mindless scumbag thugs that seem to kill for fun.

The sight of a clean-cut white guy in a custom suit drinking a Starbucks coffee fills you with bile and causes you to seethe, but other than that you probably have no issues.

Correct. Crushthedemoniac apparently has the ability to judge people as "pretentious pricks" without ever meeting them or knowing anything about them. What a skill he's got.

Nori wrote:
Here's a suggestion...move and stop crying about it.

Nori wrote:
Here's a suggestion...move and stop crying about it.

Crazy_Chester wrote:
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crushthedemoniac wrote:
PS I have a good education, good job, and usually go against the norm onthis board. For some reason people cant handle it and feel the need to chalk it up to jealousy or lack of education??? Im really starting to wonder whats worse off for JC the pretentious pr**ks or the mindless scumbag thugs that seem to kill for fun.

The sight of a clean-cut white guy in a custom suit drinking a Starbucks coffee fills you with bile and causes you to seethe, but other than that you probably have no issues.

1stStGuy wrote:

If it were all about noise, I would have included the douchebags on 2nd st that play beer pong and yell at the top of their lungs unnecessarily. It's about the bars themselves, and the element they attract, plain and simple. There are several young ladies who live in the immediate surrounding area, and to a woman none of them feel safe around Indio's, especially walking alone after nightfall.

alanwright wrote:

If 1stStreetGuy lived on the corner of Montgomery and Washington, he'd be complaining about the noise from York Street Tavern and Grand Banks. I don't know who goes to those places, but I know they get a diverse crowd of people who TEND NOT TO drive on the sidewalks, throw bottles, stab each other, etc.

1stStreetGuy lives on 1st Street so he's concerned about Indio's and Latin Lounge. The Music Box and The Barge Inn have had a few incidents, as have Indio's and the LL. Actually, The Barge Inn seems to attract working-class white patrons.

This seems NOT to be about race, but about class and whether bar patrons know when to shut up, go home, and not stab each other.

crushthedemoniac wrote:
PS I have a good education, good job, and usually go against the norm onthis board. For some reason people cant handle it and feel the need to chalk it up to jealousy or lack of education??? Im really starting to wonder whats worse off for JC the pretentious pr**ks or the mindless scumbag thugs that seem to kill for fun.

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crushthedemoniac wrote:
Mmm hmm I see. Something tells me that if there was any real danger the cops would be doing something about it. Could it just be paranoia some of you are feeling? If a pan handler or bum makes you un-easy thier is always other quaint North Jersey suburban towns to set up shop in.

Yeah, because we ALL know that PD in this town is top notch. Chief Wiggum is a better cop by accident. The only time the rank and file give a shit about anything is when they are TOLD to, the rest of the time they are all about doing as little as possible, while trying to collect as much as possible.

aoao wrote:

welcome to the hood 1ststguy! too bad you never said anything about lucky 7s or white star. they have a rowdy/loud crowd there too that pours on to the street. duh. but maybe because that there's all "caucasian" people there and those are the bars you frequent.... what a jerk. leave those bars alone, or those people will go in to your favorite "white" bar and ruin your night.

im assuming you're a lucky 7 kind of guy. beach blanket bingo night is coming up. enjoy, buddy!

crushthedemoniac wrote:
Mmm hmm I see. Something tells me that if there was any real danger the cops would be doing something about it. Could it just be paranoia some of you are feeling? If a pan handler or bum makes you un-easy thier is always other quaint North Jersey suburban towns to set up shop in.

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tommyc_37 wrote:
I live very close to the beer garden, and I never hear or see any type of "ruckus" near closing time. It just attracts a higher class of people ... whether you like it, or not. Plain and simple. Some things just are, what they are.

You gotta be kidding me. The beer garden attracts the mindless frat boys from Hoboken, if thats a higher class of people well then you my friend have a pretty distorted shelterd view of people and life in general. Yea bros puking in the parking lot is real high class, I think id rather the thugs.

1stStGuy wrote:
I think the point is that most, if not all of us, would prefer a "frat boy" bar where we can walk down the street and marvel in their stupidity and immaturity to a bar full of customers who cause trouble to the point some may be afraid to walk down the street.

Beer Garden is not necessarily a "higher" class of customers, but a different class.

ratslayer wrote:
The Beer Garden is about family, not frat boys. Stop making up stuff, moron

tommyc_37 wrote:
I live very close to the beer garden, and I never hear or see any type of "ruckus" near closing time. It just attracts a higher class of people ... whether you like it, or not. Plain and simple. Some things just are, what they are.

thatgirl wrote:
I live at Cole Street and Newark Ave. I have noticed in the last three months or so, there are a lot of shady characters hanging around the block/area, especially really late at night. I have seen the police around twice, I've been woken up by large crowds yelling just outside on Newark, especially on weekends.

When I moved to JC last July, I had no problem or worries walking home from the Path by myself. Now, I am uncomfortable walking after dark, there are packs of people running around. Even if I dress ugly they harass seemingly any women that walks by.

There is a homeless man who has been stationed for months at the corner of Cole Street and Newark also - I am really tired of being begged for money every day when I walk home - the police need to be patroling this neighborhood much more frequently, and they need to crack down not only on the shady people running around but also the panhandlers. There are at least three, they are in the same place every day.

The lucky 7 bar has been filmed for NBC medical drama "Mercy" at least three times this year, in February they made a fake St Patrick's day fair, and they were filming last week over here also. There were six cops standing around for the St Patrick's filming doing virtually nothing, when there was a panhandler begging within a block of them who is there every day.