Hey, you want to save lives and stop the killing of innocent civilians, then why don't you stop whining about the war on websites and tell psycho islamic extremists to stop suicide bombing markets.

Your "point" is a non-point. The Iraq war has almost nothing in common with the American Civil War. Although military casualties (which by the way is NOT the same thing as deaths) are far lower in Iraq, the Civil War at least arguably had a real purpose and did not involve us making an unprovoked attack on a sovereign foreign nation.

Also you're conveniently ignoring Iraqi casualties, particularly civillians (isn't Iraq the country we were supposed to be "liberating"?) and the MASSIVE refugee crisis we have created in the region. All that to supposedly root out some little wannabe al qaeda jr. non-entity that didn't even exist before we went there.

The medical stats are irrelevant - those are regrettable but they're the product of modern medicine, which obviously saves/prolongs far more lives than it ends.

Speaking of Gettysburg, there is an abandoned cemetery on Vroom Street, about 200 feet west of Bergen, that contains remains of local dead who were brought home and buried here after that battle.

Thanks, Bill, you got my point exactly...

From the Journal of the American Medical Association
? 12,000 deaths per year due to unnecessary surgery
? 7000 deaths per year due to medication errors in hospitals
? 20,000 deaths per year due to other errors in hospitals
? 80,000 deaths per year due to infections in hospitals
? 106,000 deaths per year due to negative effects of drugs

Battle of Gettysburg
Date: July 1-3, 1863
Location: Pennsylvania
Confederate Commander: Robert E. Lee
Union Commander: George G. Meade
Confederate Forces Engaged: 75,000
Union Forces Engaged: 82,289
Winner: Union

Casualties: 51,112 (23,049 Union and 28,063 Confederate)

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The intitial war and premature victory celebration aboard an aircraft carrier was the easy part.

It's the peace that's not a cakewalk. A lion's share of the blame goes to Paul Bremmer for disolving the beauracracy and Rummy for not listening to his generals. Both are responsible for botching the peace, but let's face it-- This historically inept President, who thinks that God wanted him in the White House, is a rotten leader and manager.

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Jokes about people who question the war being violent terrorists... stay classy, JCList!

Wasn't this war supposed to be a cakewalk?

There is a new book out called the $3 Trillion War - so you numbers might be low.

After wildly lowballing the cost of the Iraq conflict at a mere $50 to $60 billion, the Bush administration has been concealing the full economic toll. The spending on military operations is merely the tip of a vast fiscal iceberg. In an excerpt from their new book, the authors calculate the grim bottom line.



On March 19, 2008, the U.S. will have been in Iraq for five years. The Bush administration was wrong about the need for the Iraq war and about the benefits the war would bring to Iraq, to the region, and to America. It has also been wrong about the full cost of the war, and it continues to take steps to conceal that cost.

See three page Vanity Fair piece -- click here

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BTW: you weren't in Times Square on a bike wearing a hoodie around 4am today were you?

Nearly 4,000 U.S. military dead, 30,000 wounded.

Between 100,000 - 1,000,000 Iraqis dead, 4,000,000 displaced.

Almost $1,000,000,000,000 spent.


http://5yearstoomany.org//article.php?list=type&type=5