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Re: Property taxes likely to go up again.... a lot!
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West, After Hoboken's taxes went up 40% in '08, I know people who have appealed and won. The amount of the their reduction more than covered the attorney's fee and they now have bragging rights.

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just went to a neighborhood meeting, and Councilman Gaughan admits that taxes are going up, but hey, Gaughan says we're getting our streets paved......

Again ! They just went up 11% so what you're saying is this will be in addition to the recent 11% hike ?? Also I missed that meeting what else transpired ?

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just went to a neighborhood meeting, and Councilman Gaughan admits that taxes are going up, but hey, Gaughan says we're getting our streets paved......

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Taxes will rise as Jersey City introduces $507M budget

JERSEY CITY -- The state?s Local Finance Board approved $14 million in special state aid to Jersey City on Wednesday. Then the Jersey City Municipal Council met later in the evening to approve by resolution to introduce the $507.8 million municipal budget. Yes, a half billion-dollar budget that includes a $195 million tax levy, up $44 million over last year?s.

City Councilman Steven Fulop said after the council meeting that if the tax levy stays at the current amount, the owner of a home assessed at $100,000 could see an $800 increase in their property tax bill.

Ironically, the council voted 7-2 against introducing the legislation proposed by Fulop to allow homeowners to enter a payment plan with the city to pay back their taxes over as long as three years at low interest.

That frustrated Fulop even more as he and Councilman Viola Richardson were the only two council members to vote for the legislation.

It?s a budget introduced over six months late in the fiscal year, but which came about as the result of the $14 million aid being approved.

What come next are budget hearings with various city department to cut back as much as 20 percent if not more according to City Council President Peter Brennan. And then a public hearing on the budget scheduled sometime in late February or later before the council is ready to approve the budget. - RK

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I love this city for its many advantages, but monetarily this place is a mess. Our government heads continue to tap the same stone for blood year after year.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. This, my fellow JClisters, is our city leaders.

Why can't we as a city look for alternative ways of generating revenue instead of looking for the next hand out from the state and if that fails resort to an increase in taxes. I know most of problem has to do with the state of our economy but how many times can you use that as part of the problem.

INSANE!

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i filed an appeal with a tax attorney. according to the attorney, with the ratio and purchase price of my unit, my taxes should be less than half of what they are... however the assessor wouldn't budge and was ready to go to litigation. i didn't want to get that deep into it. the most he would give me was a $400 a year break but keep in mind i already pay over $5k for a 600sq ft condo. i took the $400 and just went on my way. the system seems like it can't be beaten at city hall.

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Isn't the maximum rate increase capped at 4% based on state laws passed a few years ago ? In any case, if this stands I won't be the only one appealing my current taxes this year based on reduced property values ...


And appeal you should. Unfortunately, even after you prevail on your appeal, the revaluation is lurking just beyond the horizon, like a tsunami.

Yvonne: your abatement screed is tired. I pay a PILOT and bought in 2008. If I appeal and come off the PILOT, which I am seriously considering, my taxes will fall precipitously. Seriously. Stop pretending like the people paying huge taxes (yes, PILOTs are taxes) are getting a free ride. I would love to be paying taxes on a 1947 valuation, or whenever it was the last reval was done.

West: the next council meeting is two weeks from tonight - Jan. 27. Everyone affected should show up and be heard.


Protest, riot or whatever to call attention to the issue but by doing so you are still trying to pressure the same elected officials who put us in this position. I prefer to go above the heads of people who continue to make decisions to take my money without asking and spend it wastefully.

Solution is a MASS TAX APPEAL EFFORT. Here you are appealing to the county tax board which forces the city to justify its assessment of your property. With recent real estate values there is not a better time to file a tax appeal if your property was assessed based on the real estate values of 2004, 2005, etc..

Since the city won't voluntarily spread the tax burden fairly, force it to do so.

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West: the next council meeting is two weeks from tonight - Jan. 27. Everyone affected should show up and be heard.


Thanks.

BTW, has anyone ever filed a tax appeal and won?

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Isn't the maximum rate increase capped at 4% based on state laws passed a few years ago ? In any case, if this stands I won't be the only one appealing my current taxes this year based on reduced property values ...


And appeal you should. Unfortunately, even after you prevail on your appeal, the revaluation is lurking just beyond the horizon, like a tsunami.

Yvonne: your abatement screed is tired. I pay a PILOT and bought in 2008. If I appeal and come off the PILOT, which I am seriously considering, my taxes will fall precipitously. Seriously. Stop pretending like the people paying huge taxes (yes, PILOTs are taxes) are getting a free ride. I would love to be paying taxes on a 1947 valuation, or whenever it was the last reval was done.

West: the next council meeting is two weeks from tonight - Jan. 27. Everyone affected should show up and be heard.

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Isn't the maximum rate increase capped at 4% based on state laws passed a few years ago ? In any case, if this stands I won't be the only one appealing my current taxes this year based on reduced property values ...

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How many abated properties will feel this tax increase? None, the reason abatements are bad for this city.

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Remember how Healy and the city council kept touting how bringing new "ratables" to the city would give the city so much extra tax money? Those thousands of new housing units appear to be doing the 'magic' that the Healy administration promised in holding down taxes, heh?

...of course what they didn't say is that the city has to finance infrastructure improvements, a higher level of maintenance work on streets and sidewalks, increased police presence, and additions to other municipal services required to accommodate the thousands of new residents.

A few weeks ago when I passed the Monaco towers site, I counted three cops "guiding" traffic during construction...Is Roseland paying for the cops to be there or is the city? If the city is, something should be done to change the policy and put the responsibility in the developer's hands. Those cops have the most crooked BS jobs IMO.

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There should be a tax tea party in front of City Hall.

Can they repeal those generous tax abatements given to developers?

They need to make serious cuts. Forget those damn furloughs, try layoffs. And lots.

I have an idea, eliminate the need to have a JC cop on duty at every job site in the city just hanging out doing nothing while the construction happens. Surely the cops can be doing better things like patrolling and preventing crime.

The Libraries seem to have excessive staff as well. I'm sure 10% reductions in all departments would help alot.

These guys are doing the same thing that took place in the 70's. Get ready for another round of flight from the city because taxes got too obnoxious.

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So as it currently stands, the tax levy is going up to $190 million from $150 million. The 11.25% increase in July only gets you to ~ $165 million. Total increase year over year is 26%. If you are serious about protest, riot, whatnot - you have two weeks.

Jersey City Council introduces budget that hikes taxes
By Melissa Hayes/The Jersey Journal
January 13, 2010, 8:52PM

The Jersey City Council quickly introduced a budget tonight in an effort to hold onto $14 million in state aid that was approved today.

The budget carries a $190 million tax levy, up $40 million over last year?s.

City Business Administrator Brian O?Reilly told council members that if the levy is not reduce the owner of a home assessed at $100,000 would see an $800 increase in city taxes.

Ward D Councilman Bill Guaughan, a member of the budget committee, said the council plans to make cuts.

The budget was not originally on last night?s agenda, but was added after the Local Finance Board approved $14 million in special municipal aid.

Guaghan said officials wanted to include those funds in the budget so Gov.-Elect Chris Christie, who opposes the aid, cannot revoke it.

Additional information on the budget was not available tonight. Check back tomorrow for futher details.

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I hope not, my property tax is insane.

Can we do some kind of preemptive protest before it becomes a fait accompli.

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Budget introduced to city council tonight. Three guesses as to where the money to fund that big gap in the budget is going to come from....

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