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Re: What's going there?
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Love the Shining reference in the new bar's name. Hopefully it's as cool as you're alluding to.

On another note, anyone know what's going on with the old food co-op / Goods & Greens in the Silverman building facing Hamilton Park? It's on the corner of the same block as Milk Sugar Love and GP's. Originally it seemed like it was on its way to becoming the new home of a photography photo, but that "coming soon" sign is gone and I haven't seen any construction. It's a really nice space, would love to see it put to good use for the neighborhood...


Originally the photo place was going to be there temporarily and then move to a new space in the building that will be going up next door. The idea was Silverman really wanted food/retail of some sort there.

Since then food has gone into Smith and Chang and they took down the sign, so I'm not sure what is going on now.


Thanks, makes sense. I think it is a great spot for a casual caf? where you wouldn't mind grabbing takeout for lunch or grabbing a quick bite for dinner. Kind of like a better version of Basic.

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Re: What's going there?
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Love the Shining reference in the new bar's name. Hopefully it's as cool as you're alluding to.

On another note, anyone know what's going on with the old food co-op / Goods & Greens in the Silverman building facing Hamilton Park? It's on the corner of the same block as Milk Sugar Love and GP's. Originally it seemed like it was on its way to becoming the new home of a photography photo, but that "coming soon" sign is gone and I haven't seen any construction. It's a really nice space, would love to see it put to good use for the neighborhood...

Posted on: 2015/2/5 20:05
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Re: Area between Tunnel and Hoboken
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Nice photo. What a shame so many cool, old buildings had been demolished in the name of progress.

I noticed a sign on the Lackawanna Center (the large factory building that runs along 18th street across from Cast Iron Lofts) advertising retail space. Being curious, I checked it out:

http://www.lackawannacenter.com/

Wonder when this would actually materialize by... anyone know anything about that?

Posted on: 2014/11/8 15:30
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Re: What's going there?
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An upscale BYOB will be coming to 299 Marin Blvd, formerly occupied by Caf? 95.

https://www.facebook.com/kitchenatgrovestation

http://hotfromthekettle.com/blog/the-kitchen-at-grove-station

Posted on: 2014/10/23 13:20
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Re: Ahris Kitchen: Korean food in downtown Jersey City
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Having grown up and still working near Fort Lee and Pal Park, I've had my fair share of authentic Korean food... the menu looks solid! Will there be ban chan served prior to the meal?

Posted on: 2014/9/17 1:57
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Re: What's going there?
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I_heart_JC wrote:
Is anyone else a little nervous about 5 new restaurants - each with a liquor license - opening on one short block?

While I'm psyched that vacant buildings are getting filled, especially on the south side of Newark, I genuinely fear that our anticipated Restaurant Row will in fact be Bro Row, with a decidedly Hoboken-like vibe.

I really hope these fears are unfounded.


I wouldn't be nervous. Having Newark Ave. become a destination for both high quality restaurant options and a concentrated nightlife scene is only going to increase DTJC's appeal.

As alluded to by On_The_3rd, Hoboken's scene is mainly comprised of generic sports bars with undistinguishable food. That doesn't appear to be the theme developing on Newark Ave. or DTJC in general. Another driving factor in Hoboken's bro-ier, wilder nightlife is a) it's proximity to the train station and b) overall younger population. While having a more active, festive main drag will certainly draw the attention of younger adults, it is still a far way away from becoming exactly like Hoboken.

All of that being said, and despite what many on this board say, there are many things that Hoboken does right. Washington St. is a pleasing, safe, and active main avenue. Newark Ave., which can still be desolate and off-putting at times, would be well-served to model itself on its northern counterpart.

Posted on: 2014/9/2 20:47
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Re: South House
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Seems cool! The Turtle Club is actually one of the nicer spots in Hoboken. This seems like a good fit for our town - Southern food and live music hits a sweet spot for me and the old lady...

Posted on: 2014/8/29 22:47
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Re: Brooklyn Chef's Goods & Greens replaces DOCO Market in HP
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There is a place on Long Beach Island called Pearl Street Market that is actually quite successful with this market / cafe combo. They nicely balance offering high quality premade dishes, baked goods, and some specialty groceries along with being a destination cafe and coffee bar. Lines extend out the door every day. It is a huge draw for locals and young families, which there is no shortage of in Hamilton Park. G&G never really built up or marketed this side of its business...

I think G&G failed because it was never clear about what it was trying to be. There were too few real groceries to be considered a go-to place to shop, and too little/too unappetizing selection of pre-made food and sandwiches. It's a shame...

I still think a unique cafe where you can pick up or have a casual lunch/dinner would do awesome here. The first idea that comes to mind is "Animals," which always has a cart at JC food festivals. I had heard somewhere along the way they were looking to open a location in Jersey City... let me be the first to volunteer Hamilton Park!

http://animalsnyc.com/

Another place that runs a similar operation is Cochon Butcher in New Orleans. It is attached to a larger restaurant but offers exactly what I think would bring some life to the restaurant scene around the park.

http://www.cochonbutcher.com/

Posted on: 2014/8/19 17:48
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Re: Third & Vine Restaurant
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Still have the TV's...put it this way, I was with my wife and when she saw the TV's, she said we are not going there. Some bars should have TV's and some should not, a cheese and wine bar should not.


Your loss. Less crowd for those with less arbitrary standards to contend with for table space.

(Assuming you're referring to Third and Vine).


I've been 2-3 times and they always have movies playing silently on the TVs. One time it was a black and white movie, another time some odd film with Helena Bonham Carter. The type of stuff that makes great background eye candy/creates ambiance - not a sports game for people to yell at or anything that IMO disrupts the vibe.


I agree. The two rather small TV's do nothing to hurt the restaurant's ambiance, and depending on your tastes, could even enhance it. It's a really unique place with delicious small plates and a well managed bar... hope they continue to do well!

Posted on: 2014/6/3 18:54
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Re: Battello Restaurant - Newport Marina
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I agree with Parkman.

To start, service is very friendly, and was attentive enough for only being open a few days.

There were a wide variety of house cocktails, each of which we had were flavorful and powerful.

The menu is obviously seafood heavy, but there is some variety thrown in there. The pancetta wrapped scallops were bangin'. Let it be known my GF is a seafood hater, and happily devoured the lobster tail, which is served with pork belly and fried couscous. Awesome combination.

Lastly, the place itself is decorated very nicely. Can't wait to see what it's like when the weather really starts to get warm. And they are still working on a front room that will have a bigger bar and lounge, as well as live music.

The price tag is typical of any other high-end dining restaurant. Everyone should know that going in.

All in all, I think it is a great place to have in Newport and on its way to success.

Posted on: 2014/3/23 15:23
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Re: Powerhouse Lounge
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Even if you may consider it "douchey", cities that are truly great will appear to a wide demographic. This is why NYC is the way it is. People in a bar on one side of the street would never go to a bar on the other side. There are "douchey" places, hipster places, gay places, ethnic places, happy hour places, etc.

If Jersey City wants to be a truly diverse place it cannot cater to one demographic. Unfortunately right now IMO there are too many hipster places and then the other places have trepidation about defying the stroller set.

A sports bar is going to attract "frat" types...and yes there are those types in JC I see them all the time around town. Their money is just as green and we might as well keep it here rather than send it to Hoboken or NYC.


I think we're actually all in agreement here. A few mainstream sports bars would actually diversify the options. But it comes down to the execution, and unfortunately, it fell flat for me the other night.

Posted on: 2014/3/19 20:09
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Re: Powerhouse Lounge
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RU, I agree that Jersey City is severely lacking in number of places to hang out. The lack of bars is extremely noticeable. But I think why people bemoan places like Powerhouse Lounge is that places like that, they just kind of...miss the mark. Which is why they are empty all of the time.

Powerhouse is going for some sort of a strange loungey/sports bar/sushi vibe, which tends to attract some pretty douchey types. Thankfully, Jersey City doesn't have that many of those types of people. So if you walk past Powerhouse Lounge, you see an awkward scattered mix of after work people wearing business casual attire.

I think in 2014, downtown Jersey City residents are more particular with what they want. Something unique, something interesting. Third & Vine seems like it hits the mark.


Exactly. In fact, I gave the place the benefit of the doubt last night, and checked it out. And as you allude to, it was just kinda... blah.

It's far from a "sports bar." Still a weird vibe overall, from the decor to the lighting to the TVs (which all have exposed wires hanging out from behind them) But if you like Justin Bieber on the stereo, an endless generic menu, and an old fashioned that tastes like pure club soda, I suggest you go back. I won't be any time soon.

They said they were still planning to change the name, but that might be the extent of the overhaul. I'll keep my eye on it, because I do agree with you RU - a fun sports bar could definitely work in JC.

Posted on: 2014/3/15 14:47
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Re: Third & Vine Restaurant
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TV or not TV, that is the question...

What a hot topic here. It almost warrants its own thread.

Posted on: 2014/3/14 20:42
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Re: Monty's Public House
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Some new posts on the FB page show an old school pool table and are asking fans for menu suggestions, if anyone wants to make their voice heard now (before complaining about it on JCList or Yelp a few months from now).

Posted on: 2014/3/14 15:40
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Re: Wall St. Journal story today on Fulop JC Rebrand attempt
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Ha ha ha! We are not Detroit! That was a great. Thank you for the morning laugh.

sp2xs: I really like your submission. The logo itself was a good juxtaposition of classic and modern JC characteristics. The tag line is cool: it isn't tacky, and it has a positive, forward looking vibe to it.


Thanks! That was definitely the intent, we'll see what happens next.

Posted on: 2014/3/14 15:17
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Re: Monty's Public House
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Am I missing something, isn't that address where the new beauty shop is on Newark? I saw them building Monty's and then walked by a few weeks ago to see the shop open?


It's next door.

Posted on: 2014/3/14 12:54
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Re: Wall St. Journal story today on Fulop JC Rebrand attempt
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Thanks for posting this. The "Make it Yours" was actually submitted by me. Hopefully you all like it and vote!

Posted on: 2014/3/14 0:27
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Re: Powerhouse Lounge
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Nori wrote:
I'm not confused. I get sp2sx's point.

Though I dont think adding tv's turns a bar into a frat house


I agree, and don't think the Powerhouse, or any bar, is on its way to becoming a frat house. Hoboken has developed its culture because of a) the large amount of young, post-college New Jerseyans who live there and are all connected Kevin Bacon style b) the out-of-towners who flock their on Fridays and Saturdays in a friend's car or on the train.

That crowd does not constitute a large portion of Downtown JC nightlife (except for maybe the beer garden on random nights). That's why I think that some new sports bars could be a welcome change so long as they have the right vibe.

Posted on: 2014/3/13 20:37
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Re: Monty's Public House
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Opening soon, now accepting resumes. This is the bar going in the former Hudson Camera space on Newark Ave.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Montys-Public-House/163692473799989


Seems like sports bars are the flavor of the day here on JC List. The photos for this place look cool. I heard through the grapevine that it was going to have a more classic sporty feel with brick, old black-and-white photos, etc. Definitely excited to check it out as it's located nicely on the strip.

Posted on: 2014/3/13 18:54
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Re: Powerhouse Lounge
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Nori wrote:
Sounds like a lot of lame people here.

Dont like going to bars with tvs or drinking 3 drinks in an hr?

Do yourselves a favor and stay home bc no one wants you around them.


Bars like Wicked Wolf in Hoboken grew old for me quickly because of how crowded and annoying they would get during the weekend. Yet they must have been doing something right to attract all those people.

As I said earlier, TVs shouldn't take up every square inch, but if a sports bar is executed properly, it could be a fun experience and provide some variety in the DTJC scene.

As Baron-Bay said, the key is to know what you're about. Up until now, the Powerhouse has advertised itself as some mish-mosh of club, fine dining, lounge, pizza place, and sushi joint. Throwing a bunch of TVs and a billiards table on top of all that doesn't sound like a step in the right direction, but we'll see.

Here's their recent FB post on the changes:

This Tuesday/Wednesday the lounge will be closed for upgrades! We will be open Thursday - Saturday (regular hours) and plan to re-launch on St. Patrick's Day. At that point, we will be open 7 days/ week. The re-launch includes a 188" TV Wall, 25 TV's, Billiards, & an expanded menu. Come check it out!

Posted on: 2014/3/13 17:58
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Re: newport mall and increased densification
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Funny that this topic was posted. I got bored recently and came up with an idea to repurpose the land of the parking lot and better integrate Hamilton Park with the PATH/Waterfront via the mall. Keep in mind this idea disregards financials, legalities, temporary conveniences, etc. Just having some fun. Check out the link below, along with some descriptions:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/105326907@N06/12996339583/

Step 1 is to demolish the parking lot except for the BLACK section. I would keep this area for mall parking, and perhaps build another level or two to not lose too many spaces.

As you can see in the BLUE area, both 9th and 8th street would now run past Marin and flow into their respective mall entrances. The idea would be both streets "continue" into the mall, improving the walk from Hamiton Park into the mall itself. No more creepy garage jaunts.

I envisioned the GREEN area as an open plaza. Maybe some parkland, fountain, sculptures, etc. It would obviously look more inviting to people walking on Marin and serve as a proper entrance to the mall.

YELLOW could be reserved for a retail/commercial combination, again with the idea being that it is inviting from the street.

ORANGE, the current location of PayHalf, would also be converted into some sort of open plaza that filters nicely to the light rail station. Right now, you have to walk through weird walkways in the mall to get to the lightrail... which is not only inconvenient but places a main light rail stop on an ugly street with no foot traffic.

Lastly, the RED, which is currently the indoor walkway that connects to Washington Blvd. should be designed to be more appealing. As it stands right now, it is very cold. I envision an art alley. It would be great to bring in elements from the outside, and create some sort of walkway area, like those near Rockefeller Center.

Ultimately, the idea is to improve flow between the neighborhoods without having to demolish the mall. A tough obstacle to climb would be altering the parking garage, which would lead to overflow and congestion on the surrounding streets.

However, we live in a city, and a gigantic parking garage as the centerpiece of a main drag in town doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Hopefully the additional levels, as well as encouragement to guests and employees to use the light rail, would help alleviate the situation.

Anyway - I just did this for fun and wanted to share. Curious to hear what anyone thinks.

Posted on: 2014/3/13 2:36
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Re: Powerhouse Lounge
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i'b be really interested in a billiards hall. I feel like there's enough places already with tons of tvs. How about use all that space for lots of pool tables?

Seems like downtown has a problem with copycat businesses: one upscale salon is doing great so 5 more open. One italian restaurant is doing great so 5 more open. One craft beer bar does great so every other bar starts pouring american craft beers (including the german biergarten). One bar gets 25 tvs so all bars suddenly think they should follow. We need some new, creative options.


I don't find an overabundance of TV's attractive at all, but I don't speak for the general population of the area. I'm curious to see how it pans out... meanwhile, we have the Coffee Shop next to The Bistro bragging about how many TV's they will cram into that space. How's that for generic naming and entertainment?

Regarding live music - what's the deal with that in town? I remember hearing that there are certain zoning laws that don't allow for it, but to me it seems like the nightlife patrons of DT would love for a few places with some original music acts.


Posted on: 2014/3/12 16:01
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Re: Powerhouse Lounge
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There is perhaps nothing more generic to name a place than "XYZ Bar and Grille".

This space is begging for something cool/interesting/different.


I agree, but it's tough to judge a place before it has opened. While "big game" touting sports bars got old quickly in Hoboken, I think a well-executed one would actually diversify the scene in DTJC. Without knowing anything about the quality of their drink and food menu, the idea of billiards is intriguing, at the very least.

The 6th Borough moniker may be a little hokey, but at least it's something that tips a hat to the town we live in.

Posted on: 2014/3/12 14:21
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Re: NY POST: Jersey City is reaching for the sky
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From drab to fab, Jersey City's alluring architecture is making "Chilltown" hot

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style ... e-1.1713502#ixzz2vJ3Kjo88

Weird article and an obvious developer paid fluff piece. They're decrying the drab, characterless developments of 20 years ago while pumping the new characterless developments.


Perhaps, but I find this quote encouraging:

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The LeFrak team is now hard at work reversing missteps of earlier decades. Many of the older buildings are being revamped with new storefronts and amenities to make them more attractive inside and out. New landscaping and public programming is also trying to enliven the streetscape, which had been more driven by cars.


Any attempt to integrate the Newport neighborhood into the surrounding communities is a nice step forward. I know it will take a while, but still...

Posted on: 2014/3/10 18:20
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Re: National Cleaners on Erie St closing
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The old National Cleaners is going to be an Indian Restaurant. Hopefully it will be well vented. I like Indian food but the residual smell from the cooking can be overwhelming.


Interesting... how do you know? Any word on when it will open?

Posted on: 2014/3/7 20:12
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Re: Morning commute
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Having grown up in Bergen Co. and commuting from JC/Hobo to Teaneck for the past few years, I'll echo what everyone has said here. Getting in/out of Hudson County at rush hour is always the toughest slog, and a ride up 17 might not always be pretty.

How flexible are your hours? This has helped me big time. I go to the gym at my office before work, and as long as I am out of the area around 7 AM, it's usually ok. I agree about coming home as well. The difference between 4:45/5 and 5:30/5:45 is crazy.

Posted on: 2014/3/6 13:56
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Re: Battello Restaurant on the Newport Pier
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For those with instagram, you can preview some pics of the interior and the food here:

http://instagram.com/battellojc#

Posted on: 2014/3/5 16:52
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Re: What's going there?
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Anybody know what's going on with the space formerly occupied by Vespa (10th next to Hamilton Inn between Erie and Jersey)? I see that it's been closed for a while now... and there once were rumors of Hamilton Inn expanding into the spot. Curious... seems like it'd be a cool space for a restaurant.


I have a dream....the Hamilton Inn expands and gets a pool table!


That would be awesome... or an old school shuffleboard table.

Posted on: 2014/2/28 23:48
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Re: What's going there?
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Anybody know what's going on with the space formerly occupied by Vespa (10th next to Hamilton Inn between Erie and Jersey)? I see that it's been closed for a while now... and there once were rumors of Hamilton Inn expanding into the spot. Curious... seems like it'd be a cool space for a restaurant.

Posted on: 2014/2/28 23:09
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Re: Is Gentrification All Bad?
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FG has been a black neighborhood since the 19th century and Harlem was black from day 1. You must be confusing these areas with Greenville, Jersey City which was mostly white till the mid 1960's.


I didn't know "day 1" was at the turn of the 20th century. But before that Harlem was white and at the beginning, as opposed to "Day 1", white Dutch.


And that's why the gentrification "debate" will likely see no end. Neighborhoods change, and always have been changing. It's not something that is good, or bad... it just is.

Posted on: 2014/2/27 14:52
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