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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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elvis wrote:
I spoke with Tim at Bjs last week. Apparently my method worked a little, because he and I spoke at length about the problem. The funny thing is, he seemed to agree with me on all points. He is as annoyed, if not more, with the cart theft. We spoke at length about options he could implement, but for now, his hands are tied. He said they used to have a wheel lock system, but it didn't work. People would just keep breaking them. We left it at, "Hopefully something will get done soon" and we were both optimistic that with the help of concerned citizens and Bjs, we could solve this problem. He said to call Bjs and ask for the manager to report anytime you see a cart. For now, thats the best he can do. It sounds to me like his hands are tied.


Who are his hands tied by? What about putting cart attendents/ cart guards in the parking lot to keep the carts organized and on the property. Instead of losing countless dollars on stolen carts they could afford to pay 2 attendents to secure them.

Jaah

Posted on: 2008/7/1 21:10
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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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I spoke with Tim at Bjs last week. Apparently my method worked a little, because he and I spoke at length about the problem. The funny thing is, he seemed to agree with me on all points. He is as annoyed, if not more, with the cart theft. We spoke at length about options he could implement, but for now, his hands are tied. He said they used to have a wheel lock system, but it didn't work. People would just keep breaking them. We left it at, "Hopefully something will get done soon" and we were both optimistic that with the help of concerned citizens and Bjs, we could solve this problem. He said to call Bjs and ask for the manager to report anytime you see a cart. For now, thats the best he can do. It sounds to me like his hands are tied.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 21:00
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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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UrbanRenewal wrote:


As mentioned by other JCListers previously, other large retailers across the city -- such as the Old Colony Square Pathmark -- use waist-high barriers to keep the bulk of their shopping carts on site.

Let's make it a law!


I actually really hate those barriers at PathMark and I feel they cause a bunch of other problems. First, if people come out of the store with a large order, they have no choice but to leave their fully-loaded carts unattended while they go get their cars to drive up and load. Second, when they drive up and load, they create dangerous congestion at the front of the store and in the parking lot. Third, a lot of baby strollers do not fit through those barriers and you are forced to walk through the congestion of cars at the curb until you can find that one opening where you can fit.

I think the carts with the wheel-lock system are the best. People need to be able to get to their cars with the carts.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 20:56
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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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as07302 wrote:
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UrbanRenewal wrote:

Something really should be done, and I think a waist-high barrier requirement may just be the best solution.


I agree that the barriers are a good idea - but i don't think it wouldn't work in this case. Where would you "draw the line"?

If the carts are permitted to go into the parking lot, can you imagine how large the perimeter would need to be? Plus, you can't but barriers on the access road right in front of BJs and ShopRite - this would allow a way out for the carts.

BJ's just needs to be a responsible member of the community and put electronic wheel locks on their carts like the other stores do.

I'm not familiar with how the Pathmark lot is laid out, so if the barriers work there they could maybe work here.


Shop-rite, which is right next door to BJ's, uses the wheel locks to prevent the carts from being rolled off the lot. I never see a shoprite cart around downtown, ONLY BJ"S!!

Posted on: 2008/7/1 20:36
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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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UrbanRenewal wrote:

Something really should be done, and I think a waist-high barrier requirement may just be the best solution.


I agree that the barriers are a good idea - but i don't think it wouldn't work in this case. Where would you "draw the line"?

If the carts are permitted to go into the parking lot, can you imagine how large the perimeter would need to be? Plus, you can't but barriers on the access road right in front of BJs and ShopRite - this would allow a way out for the carts.

BJ's just needs to be a responsible member of the community and put electronic wheel locks on their carts like the other stores do.

I'm not familiar with how the Pathmark lot is laid out, so if the barriers work there they could maybe work here.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 20:30
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Re: Liberty Harbor North
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SalOnTheHill wrote:
There's the Liberty Harbor North Redevelopment Plan, and then there is "Liberty Harbor", the Mocco-owned development comprising a large percentage of the LHN Redevelopment Plan.

So while Gull's Cove is not a part of the development named Liberty Harbor (the Northern-most portions of which abut Grand Street, this phase commonly being referred to as Liberty Harbor North), it lies within the Redevelopment Plan of the same name.


Not exactly. Gulls Cove is not owned by Mocco now, but he did own the land before selling it to Metro Homes, with deeded restrictions requiring they adhere to the master plan created by Duany Plater Zyberk. This is different than the other redevelopment zones.

Also, "Liberty Harbor" was originally a plan to build high rise residential towers in what is now Liberty State Park, Le Corbusier style.


None of which has anything to do with whether Gull's Cove is part of the overall development community being built by Mocco and in the present day being referred to as Liberty Harbor. Which is and was my original point, that groove gave the impression in his post that the Mocco development is somehow in Siberia.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 20:24
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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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I still find this BJ shopping cart story. THEY ARE COMING FROM BJS. Why is there still an on going thread about this. If the cart said Shop Rite it came from Shop Rite

Posted on: 2008/7/1 20:15
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Re: Liberty Harbor safety
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I gotta say, I'm shocked those posts are even still available on kannekt. Usually if you post ANYTHING negative about a development on their website they take it down/delete the post pretty quickly. I wonder why they allow this type of factual information to find its way onto their site?

Answer: They must not have any banner ads running from LHN!

Posted on: 2008/7/1 20:13
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Re: Liberty Harbor North
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SalOnTheHill wrote:
There's the Liberty Harbor North Redevelopment Plan, and then there is "Liberty Harbor", the Mocco-owned development comprising a large percentage of the LHN Redevelopment Plan.

So while Gull's Cove is not a part of the development named Liberty Harbor (the Northern-most portions of which abut Grand Street, this phase commonly being referred to as Liberty Harbor North), it lies within the Redevelopment Plan of the same name.


Not exactly. Gulls Cove is not owned by Mocco now, but he did own the land before selling it to Metro Homes, with deeded restrictions requiring they adhere to the master plan created by Duany Plater Zyberk. This is different than the other redevelopment zones.

Also, "Liberty Harbor" was originally a plan to build high rise residential towers in what is now Liberty State Park, Le Corbusier style.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 20:11
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Re: filling water cooler bottles
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Thx for lead on snowbird. Unfortunately it was bought by nestle or deer park and doesn't fill bottles up anymore. was 30 cents a gal. Does anyone know of other places?

Posted on: 2008/7/1 19:50
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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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Here's a thought:

Why can't the city government simply MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT that all large retail stores located within shopping centers install permanent waist-high barriers at the curb outside the entrance of their stores if they choose to provide shopping carts for their customers' use?

As mentioned by other JCListers previously, other large retailers across the city -- such as the Old Colony Square Pathmark -- use waist-high barriers to keep the bulk of their shopping carts on site.

Let's make it a law!

I'll also shoot a brief e-mail to Mr. Fulop about the problem this week.

Something really should be done, and I think a waist-high barrier requirement may just be the best solution.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 19:42
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Re: Liberty Harbor North
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ianmac47 wrote:
Technically, Gull's Cove is part of Liberty Harbor North. The masterplan by DPZ includes everything between Jersey Avenue and Van Vorst Street. The portion that is commonly referred to as Liberty Harbor North, and which is accessible from Liberty Harbor .com is being built by Peter Mocco, but the res of the lots, such as those around Gulls Cove, must conform to the LHN masterplan created by DPZ. This is similar to another DPZ community, the much lauded Seaside Florida. DPZ created what amounted to city zoning ordinances, and most of the properties were eventually built on by private owners, conforming to the masterplan.


There's the Liberty Harbor North Redevelopment Plan, and then there is "Liberty Harbor", the Mocco-owned development comprising a large percentage of the LHN Redevelopment Plan.

So while Gull's Cove is not a part of the development named Liberty Harbor (the Northern-most portions of which abut Grand Street, this phase commonly being referred to as Liberty Harbor North), it lies within the Redevelopment Plan of the same name.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 19:28
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Re: Liberty Harbor North
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Technically, Gull's Cove is part of Liberty Harbor North. The masterplan by DPZ includes everything between Jersey Avenue and Van Vorst Street. The portion that is commonly referred to as Liberty Harbor North, and which is accessible from Liberty Harbor .com is being built by Peter Mocco, but the res of the lots, such as those around Gulls Cove, must conform to the LHN masterplan created by DPZ. This is similar to another DPZ community, the much lauded Seaside Florida. DPZ created what amounted to city zoning ordinances, and most of the properties were eventually built on by private owners, conforming to the masterplan.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 19:13
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Re: Liberty Harbor - thoughts?
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nycareerpro wrote:
I have looked at Liberty Harbor a few times and really fell in love with it. It does have tons of amenities and is very technologically advanced for a decent price. I am just waiting for my lease to be up to move in there! The sales people were quite friendly to me, but they are very busy! It is definitely worth it though. Anyone else live there now that has any more comments on these condos in Jersey City? Thanks!

Liberty Harbor


$1/2 million for a 1BR is a "decent price" in a neighborhood that is certainly up and coming but will be years before arrival? Plus it's more than a stroll to the Grove PATH and you'd have to rely on the light rail to get to Exchange - unless you use the Turnpike each day to commute, it's hardly as convenient as lower-priced options east.

My wife and I looked at LHN and it was impressive. I particularly loved the building facades and technology, but the two 1BRs we looked at (last Spring) were $505k and $510k. Too much, too far, and too many pushy salespeople and the on-site financier guy was greasier than a fried funnel cake fried in fried oil at Great Adventure on a hot day.


While I reject this thread since it is all based on FRAUD, I still want to respond...

LHN is a casual walk to the Grove PATH station. Like 8 minutes tops. Plus on a nice day, it's a great walk to the Exchange PATH. And what's wrong with having to take the light rail if you don't feel like walking?

As for the neighborhood, it is literally across the street from an already-booming neighborhood called Van Vorst Park, and it borders another booming neighborhood called Paulus Hook.

Okay, so some of the new fancytown elements of LHN might be under construction for a while, but it's incorrect to position it like it's in the boonies or an underdeveloped location.

I have heard similar complaints about the sales people though. Lots of people have been turned off by them, which is a shame.


+1. Doesn't LHN start literally one city block south of the much revered "Gull's Cove"? (Worst name for a development EVER, btw).

Posted on: 2008/7/1 18:49
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Re: Liberty Harbor - thoughts?
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groovlstk wrote:
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nycareerpro wrote:
I have looked at Liberty Harbor a few times and really fell in love with it. It does have tons of amenities and is very technologically advanced for a decent price. I am just waiting for my lease to be up to move in there! The sales people were quite friendly to me, but they are very busy! It is definitely worth it though. Anyone else live there now that has any more comments on these condos in Jersey City? Thanks!

Liberty Harbor


$1/2 million for a 1BR is a "decent price" in a neighborhood that is certainly up and coming but will be years before arrival? Plus it's more than a stroll to the Grove PATH and you'd have to rely on the light rail to get to Exchange - unless you use the Turnpike each day to commute, it's hardly as convenient as lower-priced options east.

My wife and I looked at LHN and it was impressive. I particularly loved the building facades and technology, but the two 1BRs we looked at (last Spring) were $505k and $510k. Too much, too far, and too many pushy salespeople and the on-site financier guy was greasier than a fried funnel cake fried in fried oil at Great Adventure on a hot day.


While I reject this thread since it is all based on FRAUD, I still want to respond...

LHN is a casual walk to the Grove PATH station. Like 8 minutes tops. Plus on a nice day, it's a great walk to the Exchange PATH. And what's wrong with having to take the light rail if you don't feel like walking?

As for the neighborhood, it is literally across the street from an already-booming neighborhood called Van Vorst Park, and it borders another booming neighborhood called Paulus Hook.

Okay, so some of the new fancytown elements of LHN might be under construction for a while, but it's incorrect to position it like it's in the boonies or an underdeveloped location.

I have heard similar complaints about the sales people though. Lots of people have been turned off by them, which is a shame.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 18:46
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Re: Cafe Saigon / best vietnamese
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I ordered from Saigon Cafe recently because it was raining and I didn't feel like walking to Nha Trang. I always go to Nha Trang before Saigon Cafe because it is cheaper, but unfortunately Nha Trang does not deliver. Anyhow, it seems I ordered from an old menu and prices have increased by $1-2 on every item I ordered. So it seems now there is a significant difference in price between the two and not a corresponding difference in quality.

I just wished Nha Trang delivered.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 18:19
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Re: Liberty Harbor - thoughts?
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A bit too far for my taste.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 18:19
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Re: Liberty Harbor safety
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jc73 wrote:
I think we should put cameras everywhere, that will stop crime. Cameras everywhere are not the answer. There will be some guy sitting at a desk watching fifty monitors, and you'll get robbed and he wouldn't even notice.


You make some great points.

I'm not necessarily against more cameras in Jersey City, but before we spend the money installing them on every street corner maybe we can learn something from the UK.

Across the pond, there's 1 camera for every 14 people (and some statistics I've heard cite higher rates of monitoring).

It appears to not have made the huge dent in crime that proponents had hoped for.

And it seems that the new problem is over there is there aren't enough people to monitor all of the footage!

Here are some articles detailing the fiasco:

- CCTV Boom Has Failed to Slash Crime, Say Police

- Britain Is 'Surveillance Society'

Posted on: 2008/7/1 18:16
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Re: Liberty Harbor - thoughts?
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nycareerpro wrote:
I have looked at Liberty Harbor a few times and really fell in love with it. It does have tons of amenities and is very technologically advanced for a decent price. I am just waiting for my lease to be up to move in there! The sales people were quite friendly to me, but they are very busy! It is definitely worth it though. Anyone else live there now that has any more comments on these condos in Jersey City? Thanks!

Liberty Harbor


$1/2 million for a 1BR is a "decent price" in a neighborhood that is certainly up and coming but will be years before arrival? Plus it's more than a stroll to the Grove PATH and you'd have to rely on the light rail to get to Exchange - unless you use the Turnpike each day to commute, it's hardly as convenient as lower-priced options east.

My wife and I looked at LHN and it was impressive. I particularly loved the building facades and technology, but the two 1BRs we looked at (last Spring) were $505k and $510k. Too much, too far, and too many pushy salespeople and the on-site financier guy was greasier than a fried funnel cake fried in fried oil at Great Adventure on a hot day.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 18:10
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Re: Eatery Signs Lease at soon to be Gull’s Cove
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?fine dining and take-out for singles, couples and families.?


So that would just be "fine dining and takeout" then.

Robin.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 18:08
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Re: Liberty Harbor - thoughts?
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alb wrote:
Spam is a pain, but, seriously, given the way the overall real estate market is, I can't really blame a developer for grasping at straws and doing any old crazy thing to bring in business.


Well I have no problem with real estate agents buying advertising on local community websites. In fact I personally would even encourage it. But spamming message boards and comments instead of paying for ad space is, as far as I am concerned, stealing.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 18:03
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Re: Liberty Harbor - thoughts?
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Do you smell something? Because I think I smell a big steamy pile of shilling.


Spam is a pain, but, seriously, given the way the overall real estate market is, I can't really blame a developer for grasping at straws and doing any old crazy thing to bring in business.

I'm not sure how the Jersey City market is right now -- my impression is that it's really not all that terrible -- but I really hope the developers who've put up new buildings end up with good buyers and/or tenants and don't end up with a bunch of half-finished ghost town buildings.

I remember in the late 1990s, when parts of Paulus Hook looked as if they were sets for a war movie, and that was sad.

Of course, if that kind of market comes here, it will hit a bunch of jerks who have it coming, but I'm sure it also will hurt nice people, too.

Anyhow: I think that one issue is that prices are still out of whack. I think that, in the real world, with a 30-year fixed mortgage, the price that most middle-income people around here should be paying for a home is something like $200,000 to $300,000 (for, say, a 2-bedroom with a living room and closets), but it seems as if the actual price is more on the order of $400,000 to $600,000, or about twice as high as what people can really afford.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 17:58
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Re: Cafe Saigon / best vietnamese
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I'm with you JSalt - I like Nha Trang.

I am starting to wonder if...

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Just don't understand this logic. Nha Trang probably has 20 things under $10 that I find delicious - why would I not eat there just because I don't like some of the other items?

Meanwhile Saigon Cafe is expensive enough that if I'm going to bother with it I'd rather just go somewhere better.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 17:51
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Re: Liberty Harbor safety
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Re: Liberty Harbor safety
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Yes, spill it.

We looked into LHN last year and liked it (despite the used-car-dealeresque sales tactics). What are the common complaints from the LHN homeowners?

Posted on: 2008/7/1 17:45
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Re: Liberty Harbor safety
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elvis wrote:

Also, many people I know who live in LH are telling me they wish they never moved in.


From the outside, the place looks nice. What are the people living there saying about it?

Normal new/half-deserted property type stuff (the shower doesn't work right! Something leaks!!!!) or serious stuff?

Posted on: 2008/7/1 17:42
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Re: Liberty Harbor safety
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I heard all the cameras there are for show, and none are really even turned on. That makes me scared. False seccurity is worse than none at all.

Also, many people I know who live in LH are telling me they wish they never moved in.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 17:36
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Re: Liberty Harbor safety
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So, do we get $100k off the asking price if we bring printed copies of LHNcareerAMATEUR posts?

Seriously, I like LHN also, but this is just desperate and sad.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 17:30
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Re: Liberty Harbor safety
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It is funny - I googled the name nycareerpro and found that the poster posted the same stuff on most of the JC & Hoboken websites.

Here is one example:

http://www.thejcboard.com/search.php?searchid=593

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jennymayla wrote:
Do you get paid by the post or is it part of your overall job description at Liberty Harbor? Just curious.

Posted on: 2008/7/1 17:25
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Re: Taqueria
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I guess I'm the only person who didn't like this place. The food was bland and flavorless.

No you're not, I feel exactly the same way about Taqueria - and I've kind of been all over Mexico, going maybe 7-8 times (staying and traveling with friends from Mexico DF on a few trips) and I also lived in LA for 3 years (not to brag, only to preempt any questioning of my bona fides...)

Posted on: 2008/7/1 17:15
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