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Re: Morton Williams Grocery
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If this the biggest disappointment you've had in JC in a long time, you must not get out much. And if you had bothered to read this thread, you'd know that M&W is not part of Shop-Rite and that the manager told taste that they "buy from the Shop-Rite warehouse," which is what I suggested in my first post--Shop-Rite is much larger and M&W may just piggyback on their private label products. And how much exactly is "much cheaper"? two cents, ten cents?


Morton Williams & Shop-Rite are both food cooperatives. The cooperative then contracts with different grocery store suppliers such as Wakeferen or White Rose. Most Morton Williams stores are under the Associated banner in NYC.

One other factoid, not all Shop-Rites have the same owner.

Posted on: 2008/7/20 23:06
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Another JC Citizen Roughed Up by JCPD
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Says cops mistreated him
Friday, July 18, 2008
By MICHAELANGELO CONTE
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

A Jersey City man says cops trained guns on him and roughed him up Tuesday, apparently mistaking him for another man they had mistakenly released from custody and were trying to chase down.

"They have no right to treat someone like that," said Junel Huddleston of the incident at his Salem Lafayette Court apartment.

"If they said, 'We apologize, we were following someone,' I would be OK about it. I think they (were thinking), 'We don't need to apologize to this guy. Everyone around here is scum.'"

Huddleston said the front door to his apartment was open around 2 p.m. when a man walked into his apartment and said, "The cops are chasing me," to which Huddleston replied, "You got to get out of here."

The man left through a back door, Huddleston said, adding the door was left open to clear the air of the smell of glue workers had used to lay tiles. Moments later, Huddleston said, he was standing near his 19-year-old daughter, Taheera Mathis, when three plainclothes officers ran into his apartment and trained their guns on him.

"I said the guy just ran through my back door and they said, 'Put your hands up and get the f- over here,'" Huddleston said. "I put the phone down and started walking over and he (one of the officers) grabbed me by the shirt and said, 'Now I'm going to put your ass in the (tile) glue.'"

While one officer watched Huddleston who was spread-eagled in the living room, the two other cops went out the back, he said.

"I have nothing to do with this, I live here," Huddleston told the officer holding him. "He said, 'Well you're not in handcuffs are you?'"

That's when the officer holding him got a message on his radio and ran out the front door without a word. The officers who went out the back met him in a jeep in the street and they drove off, Huddleston said.

But the parade of strangers didn't end there.

As soon as the cops left, the guy they were chasing walked in through the back door and asked, "Did they leave?"

Huddleston, a laid off shipping and receiving clerk, said he chased the man out of his apartment.

A city spokesman said police followed procedure.

"Police acted appropriately in pursuing this person, who entered someone's home without invitation, in the act of committing another crime," said city spokesman Stan H. Eason said. "They assessed the residents to insure that the subject was not amongst them to make good his escape or to cause them possible harm."

Narcotics cops caught one of the two persons they were chasing, Eason said.

?2008 Jersey Journal

Posted on: 2008/7/19 3:08
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Re: Two schools, not supermart slated for Heights lot
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Between educators, administrators, maintenance, security, etc, how many local jobs will be created by the schools? Aren't they permanent union jobs with great health care benefits (well-paying being a relative term)? Or is this a unions-we-like versus unions-we-don't argument?


I support collective bargaining for everyone (even the cops).

I do not have a grasp on what building the 2 schools mean for actual job creation. My understanding is that this is going to be done to ease overcrowding and possibly replace outdated buildings. If that is the case there is a likely chance that it will involve minimal hiring of additional teachers. I haven't heard anything regarding reducing the student to teacher ratio.

In most overcrowded schools they have converted closets and are using common spaces to teach so it isn't like they are taking classes of 50 students and making them classes of 25.

The Stop & Shop would have created more jobs for Heights residents and would be a tax revenue producing building unlike the school.

One thing to note. Neighborhoods which are gentrified do not normally send their kids to public schools they send them to private ones. Look at the development in Hoboken and along the waterfront in recent years. You don't see Hoboken building more schools. (I admit I may be wrong on this, if someone knows otherwise then please post).

The fact that the Heights needs more schools and is experiencing overcrowding speaks to the demographics of the area.

Posted on: 2008/7/16 20:20
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Re: Two schools, not supermart slated for Heights lot
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If i were buying a place I would prefer there to be a supermarket across the street than a school that's for sure. It's just a guess but I think a school nearby would actually lower property values. As someone else mentioned the Dickinson area is a nightmare during recess periods and when school is let out.

A few shop owners on Central Ave, including a deli/liquor store that does great business refused to join the anti-Stop and Shop crowd because they did not see it as a threat to their business and felt they could compete with the store. In terms of job losses, mom and pop stores tend to hire less people and also tend to not provide health care or even follow minimum wage laws. Stop and Shop is a great employer and it would have been nice to see an additional 80 or so union grocery jobs for Heights residents. Especially with the economy the way it is it would be great to see young kids employed for the summer than hanging out.

I agree that the reservoir should not be used for anything but public space. I'm also for new schools being built but it seems to me that there are plenty of places in the Heights where this could have been done or renovate existing schools.

Posted on: 2008/7/16 16:11
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Re: Two schools, not supermart slated for Heights lot
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Anyone from the Heights have any perspective on all this?

A Stop and Shop mega-store would bring a lot more unwanted car traffic to the Heights but I doubt it would hurt local merchants any more than the existing Stop and Shop already does -- and though quaint a lot of city delis/bodegas/fruit stores are really over priced and horrible.

Also is there really a baby boom happening in the Heights - I would think that as the area gentrifies somewhat you would see fewer kids per house not more.



The area really is not being "gentrified." There is an increasing Latino and South East Asian population. The area remains, as it has been since I was a young kid a mostly working class area with a mix of some seedy streets and a few really nice ones.

Don't look for a Starbucks or American Apparel to open up anytime soon on Central Ave.

I think the Stop and Shop would have been a better move. The store would have created permanent well paying union jobs (with great health care benefits) for area residents.

Posted on: 2008/7/15 20:37
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Re: Photogaphy illegal in public places? PA didn't get the memo
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On the GWB walkway there are signs stating you are not allowed to take photos. I ride my bike over it frequently and have taken pictures many times, only once was I stopped.

Biggest mistake I ever made was taking picture of Trenton State Prison. I was visiting someone imprisoned there and before going in figured I would snap a few photos of the towers outside and the prison walls. If you havent seen it, TSP is a huge structure that's literally in the middle of a neighborhood. There isn't even any space around it. There are row houses, a sidewalk, a two lane road a sidewalk then a huge 50 foot wall of the prison.

Anyway, after snapping a few photos I was surrounded by cops with guns drawn. They took the film out of the camera and destroyed it on the spot.

Posted on: 2008/7/9 15:05
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Re: I Saw Someone Riding A Bicycle On the Pulaski Skyway This Morning
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I've always ponderd riding from Newark Penn to the GWB. Id defenitly be down for trying it, theres just that small matter of needing a bike . Also Mathias thats awesome that you can do that kind of distance but what do you think a person with little to no biking experience can pull off? Im in good overall condition but really havnt touched a bike in a few years.


Riding from JC to the GWB is not far..10 miles or less one way depending on where in JC you start.

Rule #1 is that you need a good bike. Do not under any circumstance by a bike anywhere but a bike shop (no wal-mart department store bikes).

If you think that you want to work up to doing long rides it is best to buy a road bike. You could probably get a decent beginner road bike from a bike shop for between $800 and $1000.

If you are not sure how much you would be riding and only see yourself doing rides no more than 20 miles I would suggest a Hybrid bike which you could get for between $500 and $800.

I started riding in May of 2005 on a $300 Schwinn. I was 225lbs and it literally took me all day to reach the GWB. Now I am 160lbs and can get there in 32 minutes.

Email me if you want to know more about cycling around Hudson County or ideas on bikes

Mathiasbolton@gmail.com

Posted on: 2008/6/28 3:03
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Re: I Saw Someone Riding A Bicycle On the Pulaski Skyway This Morning
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crushthedemoniac wrote: Mathias, thats a hell of a bike ride. Have you ever done any other routes or anything in the city? I've always wanted to do something like that but a lack of bike, motivation, and free time is keepin me down.
It may look like a 25 mile ride is a long bike ride but it really isn't. I usually dont bother getting on the bike unless its more than 25. This is the ride I am doing tomorrow (but starting from Jersey City, I don't plot that on here because it's straight up to the bridge): There's quite a few people on this list that have expressed interest in putting in some miles, like riding to the GWB from Jersey City, going over it then down the Greenway to the Path station. Maybe one day we can all organize a ride.

Posted on: 2008/6/27 18:20
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Re: State to probe Liberty Humane Society's claims against Jersey City animal control officers
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Seriously, there are just a lot of scumbag, corrupt and unethical individuals working/elected in this city and county.

I've met a couple of great city workers, cops etc but they are overshadowed by the actions of folks such as the animal control officers mentioned above. There is a culture of corruption that permeates this place.

Posted on: 2008/6/27 13:40
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Re: I Saw Someone Riding A Bicycle On the Pulaski Skyway This Morning
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devbeep wrote: Mathias: I gave up trying the Rt. 7 and Lincoln Highway routes to get past the rivers to do rides around north jersey. Now I just take my bike on the PATH to Harrison or Newark (not that that's a lot of fun, but it takes away 20 minutes of what would otherwise be complete misery).
I ride with a cycling club based in Newark. I hate taking the Path to our meet-up spot (Penn Station Newark). When I have time I ride there by first going North and crossing at rt 46. Here is the route: Compare that mileage to the two direct routes going over Lincoln Bridge or the Wittpenn: ........................ It would be great if that powers that be would seriously consider pedestrian and cyclists when they go about doing the major public works projects slated for the Hackensack and Passaic Rivers in the coming years.

Posted on: 2008/6/27 12:37
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Re: I Saw Someone Riding A Bicycle On the Pulaski Skyway This Morning
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On another note. I was in a cab coming back from Newark Airport and we are traveling up Kennedy Boulevard, one of the worst streets for cycling and out of nowhere there is one of those big SHARE THE ROAD signs with a bike and car on it.

It is so random. Those signs are very effective when many of them are placed at intervals on routes traveled by many cyclists...9w for example. The randomness of this sign is as disturbing as all the bike route signs around town.

Posted on: 2008/6/27 2:13
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Re: I Saw Someone Riding A Bicycle On the Pulaski Skyway This Morning
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Ian did you mean to say the Pulaski? I rode route 7 (wittpenn bridge) several times in 2006 and bikes/peds were allowed.

Have they put up signs recently? Maybe my complaining got them to ban bikes/peds rather than fix the mess.


The fact that there is no easy way West of Jersey City by bike is a real shame and hampers cycling in the area.

Posted on: 2008/6/27 1:17
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Re: I Saw Someone Riding A Bicycle On the Pulaski Skyway This Morning
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It is virtually impossible for cyclists in Hudson County to cross the Hackensack and Passaic rivers. The closest semi-safe crossing happens just north of Hudson County in Ridgefield, NJ (Winant ave rt 46 the next one occurs a couple of miles North (Main Street Fort Lee).

It is illegal to cross the Hackensack and Passaic River via the Pulaski Skyway and I-78 by bicycle. It is however legal to cross via 1/9 Lincoln Ave Bridge (now named after the two officers who tragically lost their lives there) and Newark Ave-Belleville Turnpike (Wittpenn Bridge). Both bridges are supposed to have pedestrian walkways but they are littered with dangerous debris making them impassable even by foot. In addition the entrances to the walkways are overgrown with small trees and bended-in guard rails. Traffic patterns and road design make crossing extremely dangerous.

Here is a picture I took of the pedestrian/bikepath on the Wittpenn back when I was crazy enough to ride it:

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On several occasions I have written to County officials about how dangerous these crossings are. It would be an improvement even if they just cleaned up the path and made access to it easier. They of course never respond.

The Wittpenn bridge is supposed to be replaced by a new structure. Construction is supposed to start by next year. Originally they were going to build a serious bikeway on the new bridge. It would have been a connection point for the East Coast Greenway.East Coast greenway. Last I heard they nixed that idea due to a slashed budget.

Posted on: 2008/6/26 23:31
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Re: Heights Bar: Drunk & Robbed Near Home
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So they deserved it? I was 19 once and I did some really stupid things, including under-aged drinking. I didn't know many 19 year olds who didn't drink. And, when you are drunk, you aren't as aware of your surroundings. At least they weren't driving.

Does a drunk woman walking alone late at night deserve to be sexually assualted? Crime is crime and the people who are at fault are the ones who committed the crime.


True, but the sale of alcohol to people under the age of 21 is also a crime. The fact that the bar served underage people and also attracts the type of folks who prey upon other customers is proof that place needs to go.

I live right next to it and the place causes nothing but trouble, a couple of years ago it was totally out of hand.

Posted on: 2008/6/3 13:46
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Re: Heights Bar: Drunk & Robbed Near Home
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Two 19 year olds getting drunk at a bar.

Posted on: 2008/6/3 0:05
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Re: Head of Jersey City police internal affairs found dead in apparent suicide
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Lt Shinnick was also the lead investigator into what the police in the Heights did to me last year.

I cooperated with his department fully, he was tough with me during questioning, but fair. I came away from my meeting with him feeling that maybe he would do the right thing and that maybe he does act with some independence from the rest of the department.

Periodically I would see him on my block, surveying the scene and talking to witnesses at all different times of the day. I felt reassured that despite his loyalties to the police department that at least he was doing a thorough job. To be honest I never really expected the JCPD to do much against the officers who brutally beat and falsely imprisoned me but Shinnick gave me a sense that there was a small chance. Not surprisingly JCPD recently named the two officers who did most of the beating as officers of the month.

I'm sorry for his family and his colleagues that he was close to. After witnessing and experiencing what I did last year I can say first hand that all is not right within that police department. For the Chief and Prosecutor to make statements like "we will let the JCPD investigate this" and "it probably has nothing to do with his job" is premature and ridiculous.

This is the head of Internal Affairs for a police department that has been rocked with many scandals and is in the midst of a huge steroid distribution and use scandal that implicates almost 1/3 of the department. He commits suicide 1 year before retirement and does it in another state and an outside body is not investigating it?

Posted on: 2008/5/31 16:52
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Head of Jersey City police internal affairs found dead in apparent suicide
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Head of Jersey City police internal affairs found dead in apparent suicide

by Michaelangelo Conte
Friday May 30, 2008, 2:07 PM


The head of the Jersey City Police Department's Internal Affairs Bureau was found dead in a Pennsylvania motel yesterday with an apparently self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, officials said.

Capt. Edward Shinnick, 51, of Midland Park, who reportedly had put in his retirement papers, was reported missing Wednesday night and the Jersey City Police Department, with the Hudson County Prosecutor's Office, began trying to locate him, Police Chief Tom Comey said today.


Comey said an alert was broadcast for Shinnick's vehicle and yesterday the department got a call from the Hamlin Township Police Department when the car was found in the parking lot of the motel where the captain's body was discovered.

Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio said Shinnick died of a gunshot would to the head.

"It is with profound sadness that we announce the passing of Capt. Edward Shinnick," Comey said this afternoon. "Capt. Shinnick will be remembered as a dedicated officer who served this city valiantly for 23 years. Our thoughts and our prayers will remain with his wife and children in this time of need."

Comey said he believes Shinnick had put in retirement papers but he was not certain.

"We are checking to see when exactly he retired," Comey said. "The process may have been started but not completed. They are trying to get those answers right now."

Asked if Shinnick's suicide could be linked to any investigation he was involved in, Comey said: "I don't believe that that is in fact the case."

Asked if his office would look into the matter, DeFazio said, "At this point it is in the hands of Jersey City police and the local authorities in Pennsylvania."

Posted on: 2008/5/31 1:36
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Re: Maniac drivers who speed through crosswalks (and stop signs)
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Not to mention that when someone is hit by a car, even when the driver is drunk, sentences are very lenient. Shock and Outrage

Posted on: 2008/5/21 19:32
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Re: New York Times: Hoboken/ High-End Amenities, Lesser Location ( Condos by the Projects )
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Word to the wise, if you do buy, you should add in a canoe w/ the closing costs.


You're brilliant. You just may have come up with the idea that saves these developments.

Forget canoe, kayaking is the new yuppie rage. You can sell these units by telling potential buyers of the great Kayaking opportunities available right outside their door.

Posted on: 2008/5/8 1:40
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Re: Fine JC Policing
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i hate to say this, but there had to be something else going on with this situation for them to search people, their wallets, their cell phones, or their vehicle.


I disagree with that line of reasoning. I called the Jersey City police because my home was being broken in to. When they arrived they beat the living shit out of me for no other reason than the fact I was the first person they saw.

Cops do things because they can and because they get away with it 99.9% of the time.

by the way, I'm not anti-cop. My dad was a cop in Paterson NJ.

Posted on: 2008/4/27 14:39
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Re: Lincoln Park & West Bergen: VIOLENT WEEKEND -- 3 slain in Jersey City say shootings unrelated
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Every story of crime becomes an argument over what to call the place where it happened. If it happens across the street, well that side of the street is a different neighborhood.

I understand the desire of people who bought real estate in Jersey City to try and do their best to present their lot as a great, safe neighborhood but ultimately you are not helping.

There are serious crime issues and government inefficiencies in this city that need to be dealt with.

Posted on: 2008/4/22 1:42
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Re: Folding bicycles
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I got a single speed 26inch ( not fixie ) and it's the best. When it's warm I try to get in atleast 10miles a few times a week on it. It's kinda shitty the lightrail/path trains aren't bike friendly during peek hours. I've gotten into heated shouting matches with over zealous path employees trying to enforce the 3:30 time at 2:45-3:00 going towards NYC.. It's pretty pointless if you live downtown to lock your bike up at the station and leave it for 8-10 hours.

Anyone else have a JCPD car tell them to get on the sidewalk?? It's happened to me a few times and it was weird... I'm not complaining people drive crazy on Palisade ave late at night.. That's an instant summons in NYC


Actually last Saturday I was riding down Palisade Ave and a police car was behind me. I was taking a car lane not riding on the side of the road because I was doing the speed limit. At the next stop light the patrol car sped up alongside me and told me to get the *bleep* out of the road.

I informed the officers that when a bike is traveling at the speed limit they are allowed to take a car lane. They said something and drove off as the light changed.

Here is the state law on Bicycling in NJ

39:4-14.2, 39:4-10.11 Operating Regulations.
Every person riding a bicycle on a roadway shall ride as near to the right roadside as practicable exercising due care when passing a standing vehicle or one proceeding in the same direction. A bicyclist may move left under any of the following conditions: 1) To make a left turn from a left turn lane or pocket; 2) To avoid debris, drains, or other hazardous conditions on the right; 3) To pass a slower moving vehicle; 4) To occupy any available lane when traveling at the same speed as other traffic; 5) To travel no more than two abreast when traffic is not impeded, but otherwise ride in single file. Every person riding a bicycle should ride in the same direction as vehicular traffic.

Posted on: 2008/4/10 16:50
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Re: Fugitives nabbed by cutting off their welfare benefits
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Welfare programs cause poverty?

If welfare programs were done away with poverty would go away?

Posted on: 2008/3/31 22:45
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Re: Fugitives nabbed by cutting off their welfare benefits
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What costs more, welfare program for families in need or the Wall Street bail out? or how about the war in Iraq?

Posted on: 2008/3/30 23:04
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Re: The Heights: Robbed by 4 teen girls in Gordon Park
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"As further proof that crime is getting better in the Heights authorities pointed to the fact that the robbers did give the victim her purse back"

Posted on: 2008/3/28 16:02
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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Also just to remind everyone Shop-Rite, A&P and others are unionized supermarkets where workers receive good pay, health benefits and defined benefit pensions.


a) That's good to know. Do you know if Pathmark is unionized, too?

b) One thing to keep in mind is that we don't have to have a Whole Foods to have a good place to go to get organic groceries. If we could just get a smaller version of the Basic Foods grocery store that Hoboken has, or if we could somehow help Subia's grow to become a store like that, that would be a huge improvement over the situation we have now.


Pathmark, A&P, Shoprite, Stop & Shop & Kings are all unionized and all under the same union contract throughout North Jersey (over 40,000 workers).

Supremo is also unionized but under a different contract

Fresh Direct and Garden of Eden in Hoboken are attempting to unionize.

I love basic foods in Hoboken, unfortunately they are non-union. I go there and buy products I cannot get at shoprite. Even if there were a whole foods in the area I would still support Basic Foods instead.

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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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Do you honestly believe that Shoprite needs to be worried about a Whole Foods in their backyard?

I'm sorry, but it is comical for you to mention the thought that Whole Foods could make Shoprite "go under" ..lol

Have you ever stepped foot inside Shoprite to see what their sales are like? I would highly doubt that Whole Foods would put any noticeable dent into Shoprite's customer base and sales.

Just because you're too good to be around the clientele of Shoprite or the Dunkin Donuts by the PATH station does not mean that they need to get their acts together. Trust me, they are both in prime locations with huge customer bases .. both will do just fine no matter what happens.


There's a lot of truth in this. In fact Whole Foods and Trader Joes really do not compete head to head with the Shop-Rites and A&P's. What happens is that many people go to WF and TJ for specialty items then buy the bulk of their food at traditional grocery stores.

A bigger worry for traditional grocers are Wegmans, Stu Leonards and Wal-Marts with full line grocery stores inside. All of these however do better in more suburban areas and when I say Suburban I am talking about areas that are spread out, almost all of North Jersey is urban.

Also just to remind everyone Shop-Rite, A&P and others are unionized supermarkets where workers receive good pay, health benefits and defined benefit pensions. Whole Foods and Trader Joes are anti-union chains with official policies of Employment At Will meaning your employment is at the will of the company and you can be terminated at any time for any reason (aside from title 7 exemptions).

Posted on: 2008/3/21 13:55
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Re: Cars beat mass transit for Hudson commuters
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It strikes me as completely unbelievable that only 2% of the people in Hudson County rely on the PATH as "their primary way to get to work or school". The population of Hudson County is about 600K (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/34/34017.html) so 2% would be just 12,000 people commuting to NYC each day. There is something very wrong with the polling methodology that they employed (maybe just interviewing those with land lines who are around during business hours?). Perhaps I am wrong in thinking that 600,000 x 0.02 = 12,000, but I don't think so. Hoboken and downtown JC PATH commuters alone have to be a multiple of this.



The number does seem off but perhaps not too far off.

Remember it is a daily percent and only those using the PATH as their "primary" way of getting to work. What you also need to look at is the population of the areas around the PATH stations, those stations do not serve all of Hudson County they really only serve the people in that specific area of Hudson County. Anyone not living within walking distance of a PATH train usually hops a bus or Ferry to NYC. I know plenty of people who live in Hoboken, Union City, Jersey City etc that take buses into nyc because it's more convenient.

If you look at the PATH train in Hoboken I would say a large percentage, perhaps even 50% or more are people coming in on MTA & NJ transit trains from North Jersey and transferring. The Hoboken train station is a mob scene of people heading onto the PATH.

Ian's right about the need to expand rail service to PA. The State's infrastructure is years behind where it needs to be.

Posted on: 2008/3/21 13:37
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Re: Cars beat mass transit for Hudson commuters
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Ride your bike!

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lol, believe it or not it's one of the reasons I started riding.

Now if only they built that pedestrian/bike bridge!

Posted on: 2008/3/20 15:19
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Re: Cars beat mass transit for Hudson commuters
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The problem is that public transportation in Hudson County is almost exclusively geared towards getting a certain percentage of the population into NYC for work and that's it (ever take the Path or NJT into nyc on the weekends - super packed trains running less frequent).

Even with just nyc commuters as its focus they do a pretty bad job.



Path stations are the most anti-human, sterile, mortuary like structures/buildings I think I have ever been in. I have used Path trains since the late 80s and the facilities only seem to get worse. Most of the stations do not have bathrooms, the one that does (JSQ) the bathrooms are disgusting and almost every time I have had to use it they were closed. There is nowhere to put your trash so you either have to hold on to it or do like many people do - leave it all over the station.

The stations that do have benches or places to sit don't have enough something like 8 seats for the hundred or so people who wait on the platform. The benches they do have are the most uncomfortable wooden monstrosities probably bought on the cheap from a jail doing renovations.

Lastly, for now, there are those 1984 like TV's all over the place that serve absolutely no purpose. I always feel like I am in some bad sci-fi flick when i see them.

Posted on: 2008/3/20 15:11
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