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Re: Female Jogger Slain - Body Found in Lincoln Park Lake
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Hey Cuomo today just signed a bill designed to give scum like this a drivers license. With a drivers license undocumented people can vote in NY. Further the bill limits the dentention time allowed to hold criminal illegals. I'm sure that dope Murphy will be on board soon.


This simply isn't true, undocumented persons will not be able to vote as the requirements to register are:

- Be a United States citizen;
- Be 18 years old by December 31 of the year in which you file this form (note: you must be 18 years old by the date of the general, primary or other election in which you want to vote);
- Resident of this state and the county, city or village for at least 30 days before the election;
- Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction (unless parolee pardoned or restored rights of citizenship);
- Not be adjudged mentally incompetent by a court;
- Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.

And the bill has no provisions regarding detention, incarceration or any other form of detainment.

The point is the animal that killed Ms. Carolina was a bad dude and his citizenship status has nothing to do with that.


1. if they are already here illegally what's to stop them from checking the box claiming they are a US citizen and registering to vote? --- NOTHING
2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.



What? Checking a box is not how we prove our citizenship in this country. We have these things called Social Security Cards and Birth Certificates.


And yet, that's exactly how you get registered to vote in NYS. You just have to check off a box and all is good to go. Even the spokesperson for the state's BOE has confirmed that is the case.

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...at voting polls you're typically required to bring two forms of ID one of which is those documents that "undocumented" people wouldn't have.


Have you actually ever voted around here?? At polling stations you show NOTHING. You just state your name, and address, and they look you up in the voter register rolls. They match what you state with that's in the rolls and you are then given your ballot.

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Hey Cuomo today just signed a bill designed to give scum like this a drivers license. With a drivers license undocumented people can vote in NY. Further the bill limits the dentention time allowed to hold criminal illegals. I'm sure that dope Murphy will be on board soon.


This simply isn't true, undocumented persons will not be able to vote as the requirements to register are:

- Be a United States citizen;
- Be 18 years old by December 31 of the year in which you file this form (note: you must be 18 years old by the date of the general, primary or other election in which you want to vote);
- Resident of this state and the county, city or village for at least 30 days before the election;
- Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction (unless parolee pardoned or restored rights of citizenship);
- Not be adjudged mentally incompetent by a court;
- Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.

And the bill has no provisions regarding detention, incarceration or any other form of detainment.

The point is the animal that killed Ms. Carolina was a bad dude and his citizenship status has nothing to do with that.


1. if they are already here illegally what's to stop them from checking the box claiming they are a US citizen and registering to vote? --- NOTHING
2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.



What? Checking a box is not how we prove our citizenship in this country. We have these things called Social Security Cards and Birth Certificates. Citizenship status not on your drivers license and at voting polls you're typically required to bring two forms of ID one of which is those documents that "undocumented" people wouldn't have.

2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.

Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Ramirez... Please explain what their citizenship status had to do with the murders they committed or is it you just prefer you killers who kill in the united states to be born here?


1. You are not required, by law (in NJ and NY), to show any form of ID at a polling station.

2. If you don't understand how easy it is to get a fake SS number (or rent a "real" one), then you don't really comprehend how easy it is for undocumented individuals to circumvent U.S laws. It is how many, many work, bank and live here. And it's simpler than you may think (and a heck of a lot more prevalent).

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Hey Cuomo today just signed a bill designed to give scum like this a drivers license. With a drivers license undocumented people can vote in NY. Further the bill limits the dentention time allowed to hold criminal illegals. I'm sure that dope Murphy will be on board soon.


This simply isn't true, undocumented persons will not be able to vote as the requirements to register are:

- Be a United States citizen;
- Be 18 years old by December 31 of the year in which you file this form (note: you must be 18 years old by the date of the general, primary or other election in which you want to vote);
- Resident of this state and the county, city or village for at least 30 days before the election;
- Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction (unless parolee pardoned or restored rights of citizenship);
- Not be adjudged mentally incompetent by a court;
- Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.

And the bill has no provisions regarding detention, incarceration or any other form of detainment.

The point is the animal that killed Ms. Carolina was a bad dude and his citizenship status has nothing to do with that.


1. if they are already here illegally what's to stop them from checking the box claiming they are a US citizen and registering to vote? --- NOTHING
2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.



What? Checking a box is not how we prove our citizenship in this country. We have these things called Social Security Cards and Birth Certificates. Citizenship status not on your drivers license and at voting polls you're typically required to bring two forms of ID one of which is those documents that "undocumented" people wouldn't have.

2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.

Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Ramirez... Please explain what their citizenship status had to do with the murders they committed or is it you just prefer you killers who kill in the united states to be born here?



Good point! With enough US born lunatics to police why do we allow the undocumented. Makes zero sense. Unless you are buying votes!

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Hey Cuomo today just signed a bill designed to give scum like this a drivers license. With a drivers license undocumented people can vote in NY. Further the bill limits the dentention time allowed to hold criminal illegals. I'm sure that dope Murphy will be on board soon.


This simply isn't true, undocumented persons will not be able to vote as the requirements to register are:

- Be a United States citizen;
- Be 18 years old by December 31 of the year in which you file this form (note: you must be 18 years old by the date of the general, primary or other election in which you want to vote);
- Resident of this state and the county, city or village for at least 30 days before the election;
- Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction (unless parolee pardoned or restored rights of citizenship);
- Not be adjudged mentally incompetent by a court;
- Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.

And the bill has no provisions regarding detention, incarceration or any other form of detainment.

The point is the animal that killed Ms. Carolina was a bad dude and his citizenship status has nothing to do with that.


1. if they are already here illegally what's to stop them from checking the box claiming they are a US citizen and registering to vote? --- NOTHING
2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.



What? Checking a box is not how we prove our citizenship in this country. We have these things called Social Security Cards and Birth Certificates. Citizenship status not on your drivers license and at voting polls you're typically required to bring two forms of ID one of which is those documents that "undocumented" people wouldn't have.

2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.

Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Ramirez... Please explain what their citizenship status had to do with the murders they committed or is it you just prefer you killers who kill in the united states to be born here?

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They require the last four of a social security number, and only when doing so online. In person at the DMV, they are only required to check off a box.

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Here is a link to what NY requires someone to possess in order to vote.


https://www.voteriders.org/ufaqs/new-york-voter-id-information/


You should probably try getting your voter registration requirements from the state in question and not some non-profit from Santa Monica, California. Notice the .gov... that's official

https://www.elections.ny.gov/VotingRegister.html


Dude, you are being DENSE. In NYS, the sole requirement to register to vote is to provide/present a driver's license and to attest that you are eligible to vote, but this last requirement is an honor system without verification.

You can do it online here: https://voterreg.dmv.ny.gov/MotorVoter/

Or, you can do it in person at the DMV when submitting your driver's license paperwork by use checking the box that says you want to be registered to vote.

Heck, even the guy who sponsored the bill admitted as much ("Theoretically, they could have the ability to vote") and the spokesperson for the NYS Board of Election confirmed it, as well.

"Voters need only provide a driver’s license number to register to vote, according to BOE spokesman John Conklin.

“If you have a driver’s license number, you basically stop there,” Conklin told The Post Tuesday of the vetting process.

Registrants are required to check a box swearing they are eligible to vote in the US, but “it’s ­basically an honor system,” he said.

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https://www.ny.gov/services/register-vote

Social Security number required

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Here is a link to what NY requires someone to possess in order to vote.


https://www.voteriders.org/ufaqs/new-york-voter-id-information/


You should probably try getting your voter registration requirements from the state in question and not some non-profit from Santa Monica, California. Notice the .gov... that's official

https://www.elections.ny.gov/VotingRegister.html

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In order to vote you first must register. If you are not registered you cannot vote. Surprise you smart folks did not know that. To register to vote you must:

Be a U.S. citizen;
Be 18 years old by the end of this year;
Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction; and
Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.


You are speaking of federal voting laws. Check again. I provided a link of what NY requires and it's just a drivers license

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New York's motor-voter laws are based on the honor system. There are no checks to verify if someone is a legitimate voter. So while guidelines are in place, there is no method established for voter verification - just a simple opt-in to register when a license is obtained.

“Theoretically, they could have the ability to vote...”
Legislative sponsor Luis Sepúlveda (D-Bronx) admitted the provision could be abused.

Loophole in law granting illegal immigrants driver’s licenses could lead to voter fraud

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In order to vote you first must register. If you are not registered you cannot vote. Surprise you smart folks did not know that. To register to vote you must:

Be a U.S. citizen;
Be 18 years old by the end of this year;
Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction; and
Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.

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Hey Cuomo today just signed a bill designed to give scum like this a drivers license. With a drivers license undocumented people can vote in NY. Further the bill limits the dentention time allowed to hold criminal illegals. I'm sure that dope Murphy will be on board soon.


This simply isn't true, undocumented persons will not be able to vote as the requirements to register are:

- Be a United States citizen;
- Be 18 years old by December 31 of the year in which you file this form (note: you must be 18 years old by the date of the general, primary or other election in which you want to vote);
- Resident of this state and the county, city or village for at least 30 days before the election;
- Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction (unless parolee pardoned or restored rights of citizenship);
- Not be adjudged mentally incompetent by a court;
- Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.

And the bill has no provisions regarding detention, incarceration or any other form of detainment.

The point is the animal that killed Ms. Carolina was a bad dude and his citizenship status has nothing to do with that.


1. if they are already here illegally what's to stop them from checking the box claiming they are a US citizen and registering to vote? --- NOTHING
2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.

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Here is a link to what NY requires someone to possess in order to vote.


https://www.voteriders.org/ufaqs/new-york-voter-id-information/

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Hey Cuomo today just signed a bill designed to give scum like this a drivers license. With a drivers license undocumented people can vote in NY. Further the bill limits the dentention time allowed to hold criminal illegals. I'm sure that dope Murphy will be on board soon.


This simply isn't true, undocumented persons will not be able to vote as the requirements to register are:

- Be a United States citizen;
- Be 18 years old by December 31 of the year in which you file this form (note: you must be 18 years old by the date of the general, primary or other election in which you want to vote);
- Resident of this state and the county, city or village for at least 30 days before the election;
- Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction (unless parolee pardoned or restored rights of citizenship);
- Not be adjudged mentally incompetent by a court;
- Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.

And the bill has no provisions regarding detention, incarceration or any other form of detainment.

The point is the animal that killed Ms. Carolina was a bad dude and his citizenship status has nothing to do with that.

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Hey Cuomo today just signed a bill designed to give scum like this a drivers license. With a drivers license undocumented people can vote in NY. Further the bill limits the dentention time allowed to hold criminal illegals. I'm sure that dope Murphy will be on board soon.

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Twice-deported fiend indicted on rape, murder charges in death of New Jersey jogger

A twice-deported fiend who allegedly raped a New Jersey jogger before drowning her in a lake has been indicted.

Jorge Rios, 33, was indicted Wednesday on charges of murder, aggravated sexual assault and kidnapping in the death of 45-year-old Carolina Cano in Jersey City on March 24, authorities said.

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What does it matter who violated their Oath first? That doesn't give our current set of public servants a pass by any stretch of the imagination. Anyone who votes for these unconstitutional policies is committing an act of treason.

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Not only Fulop, but the City Council as well.


“Jersey City, for example, declared itself a sanctuary city in 1996, vowing not to spend local resources to deport foreign-born residents”

It wasn’t just Mayor Fulop’s administration JC first became a “safe haven” in 1996 under Bret Schundler's (R) (1992 – 2001) administration. Every administration after that just carried it forward.

(Yvonne that is correct..right?)

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Not only Fulop, but the City Council as well.

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Even though murders tend to be everyday occurrences in our times, there is something especially heinous about this poor woman's death. She was all alone in the United States. Maybe she was just responding in a kind way to her murderer. And as well, I don't recall the lake ever being part of so horrible a crime. People will always think of what happened there in connection with this horrid act.
I know that not all of the people who come here as illegals are vile creatures as was this cretin, but Mayor Fulop still should be careful about disregarding the laws of the land. He made this guy feel welcome, offered sanctuary to him and he brought danger to Jersey City with that welcome.

For shame....

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Slain Jersey City woman remembered by her church community

Updated Apr 5, 8:43 PM; Posted Apr 5, 8:35 PM
By Aya Elamroussi | The Jersey Journal

Carolina Cano’s front-row seat in church remains empty days after her rape and murder in Lincoln Park.

“You were able to feel the pain in silence,” said Rosie Jenkins, a leader at the church Cano regularly attended, the Church of God of Prophecy on Morton Place in Jersey City.

“Everybody was just so silent. So silent,” she noted, referring to the first Sunday service held at the church after Cano’s slaying.

https://www.nj.com/hudson/2019/04/slai ... her-church-community.html

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I did an OPRA awhile back from the Hudson County prison. 50 to 60 percent of the people in the prison are non-citizens. The charges various from sexual assault, rape, drug/and or sex trafficking. The politicans are in favor of immigration due to the census. The more people, the higher the dollar amount and perhaps an additional congressional seat.


This is a perfect example of what happens when people quote numbers and facts without understanding them or their context. Something of which you are quite an expert!

The Kearny jail has an unusually large percentage of non-citizens, but that is because the county has a contract with the federal government to house ICA detainees in that jail. A more informed opinion would be to understand how many of the Kearny jail prisoners are there because of crimes committed locally and are not there as part of the ICE contract. Of course, that would take time, effort, and intellectual honesty. Much easier to spout numbers without logic or reasoning.


What you seem to fail to understand is that those locked up are criminals. As is the person who killed the jogger!


LOL WUT!? Kindly point out where have I ever said such a thing? I am stridently against illegal immigration. That doesn't negate expecting intellectual honesty in a conversation in which facts and numbers are being thrown around.

The problem with Yvonne's post (and previous statements on this subject, and others) is that she likes to confuse things by throwing out numbers without context, to try and bolster her argument or opinion. Her post was clearly meant to convey two ideas: that most criminals are illegal immigrants (not true) and that the illegal immigrant population in JC (and this area) is much larger than most people think or assume.



What I was stating in my post was that while the method in which these prisoners are being held in the Kearny jail doesn't change the fact they are criminals and illegal.

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I did an OPRA awhile back from the Hudson County prison. 50 to 60 percent of the people in the prison are non-citizens. The charges various from sexual assault, rape, drug/and or sex trafficking. The politicans are in favor of immigration due to the census. The more people, the higher the dollar amount and perhaps an additional congressional seat.


This is a perfect example of what happens when people quote numbers and facts without understanding them or their context. Something of which you are quite an expert!

The Kearny jail has an unusually large percentage of non-citizens, but that is because the county has a contract with the federal government to house ICA detainees in that jail. A more informed opinion would be to understand how many of the Kearny jail prisoners are there because of crimes committed locally and are not there as part of the ICE contract. Of course, that would take time, effort, and intellectual honesty. Much easier to spout numbers without logic or reasoning.


What you seem to fail to understand is that those locked up are criminals. As is the person who killed the jogger!


LOL WUT!? Kindly point out where have I ever said such a thing? I am stridently against illegal immigration. That doesn't negate expecting intellectual honesty in a conversation in which facts and numbers are being thrown around.

The problem with Yvonne's post (and previous statements on this subject, and others) is that she likes to confuse things by throwing out numbers without context, to try and bolster her argument or opinion. Her post was clearly meant to convey two ideas: that most criminals are illegal immigrants (not true) and that the illegal immigrant population in JC (and this area) is much larger than most people think or assume.

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I did an OPRA awhile back from the Hudson County prison. 50 to 60 percent of the people in the prison are non-citizens. The charges various from sexual assault, rape, drug/and or sex trafficking. The politicans are in favor of immigration due to the census. The more people, the higher the dollar amount and perhaps an additional congressional seat.


This is a perfect example of what happens when people quote numbers and facts without understanding them or their context. Something of which you are quite an expert!

The Kearny jail has an unusually large percentage of non-citizens, but that is because the county has a contract with the federal government to house ICA detainees in that jail. A more informed opinion would be to understand how many of the Kearny jail prisoners are there because of crimes committed locally and are not there as part of the ICE contract. Of course, that would take time, effort, and intellectual honesty. Much easier to spout numbers without logic or reasoning.


Exactly.

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I did an OPRA awhile back from the Hudson County prison. 50 to 60 percent of the people in the prison are non-citizens. The charges various from sexual assault, rape, drug/and or sex trafficking. The politicans are in favor of immigration due to the census. The more people, the higher the dollar amount and perhaps an additional congressional seat.


This is a perfect example of what happens when people quote numbers and facts without understanding them or their context. Something of which you are quite an expert!

The Kearny jail has an unusually large percentage of non-citizens, but that is because the county has a contract with the federal government to house ICA detainees in that jail. A more informed opinion would be to understand how many of the Kearny jail prisoners are there because of crimes committed locally and are not there as part of the ICE contract. Of course, that would take time, effort, and intellectual honesty. Much easier to spout numbers without logic or reasoning.


What you seem to fail to understand is that those locked up are criminals. As is the person who killed the jogger!

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I know they have a contract and those people in our jail come the New York/New Jersey area. But it does not make the crimes go away. They are not there are a parking ticket because there is no space for nonviolent crimes in the system.

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I did an OPRA awhile back from the Hudson County prison. 50 to 60 percent of the people in the prison are non-citizens. The charges various from sexual assault, rape, drug/and or sex trafficking. The politicans are in favor of immigration due to the census. The more people, the higher the dollar amount and perhaps an additional congressional seat.


This is a perfect example of what happens when people quote numbers and facts without understanding them or their context. Something of which you are quite an expert!

The Kearny jail has an unusually large percentage of non-citizens, but that is because the county has a contract with the federal government to house ICA detainees in that jail. A more informed opinion would be to understand how many of the Kearny jail prisoners are there because of crimes committed locally and are not there as part of the ICE contract. Of course, that would take time, effort, and intellectual honesty. Much easier to spout numbers without logic or reasoning.

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I did an OPRA awhile back from the Hudson County prison. 50 to 60 percent of the people in the prison are non-citizens. The charges various from sexual assault, rape, drug/and or sex trafficking. The politicans are in favor of immigration due to the census. The more people, the higher the dollar amount and perhaps an additional congressional seat.


Hudson County jail will stop taking in ICE detainees from all over NY and NJ. Non-citizen problem solved.

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news ... ion-detainees/1215264002/

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I did an OPRA awhile back from the Hudson County prison. 50 to 60 percent of the people in the prison are non-citizens. The charges various from sexual assault, rape, drug/and or sex trafficking. The politicans are in favor of immigration due to the census. The more people, the higher the dollar amount and perhaps an additional congressional seat.

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