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135jc wrote:
Hey Cuomo today just signed a bill designed to give scum like this a drivers license. With a drivers license undocumented people can vote in NY. Further the bill limits the dentention time allowed to hold criminal illegals. I'm sure that dope Murphy will be on board soon.

This simply isn't true, undocumented persons will not be able to vote as the requirements to register are:

- Be a United States citizen;
- Be 18 years old by December 31 of the year in which you file this form (note: you must be 18 years old by the date of the general, primary or other election in which you want to vote);
- Resident of this state and the county, city or village for at least 30 days before the election;
- Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction (unless parolee pardoned or restored rights of citizenship);
- Not be adjudged mentally incompetent by a court;
- Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.

And the bill has no provisions regarding detention, incarceration or any other form of detainment.

The point is the animal that killed Ms. Carolina was a bad dude and his citizenship status has nothing to do with that.

1. if they are already here illegally what's to stop them from checking the box claiming they are a US citizen and registering to vote? --- NOTHING
2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.

What? Checking a box is not how we prove our citizenship in this country. We have these things called Social Security Cards and Birth Certificates.

...at voting polls you're typically required to bring two forms of ID one of which is those documents that "undocumented" people wouldn't have.

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135jc wrote:
Hey Cuomo today just signed a bill designed to give scum like this a drivers license. With a drivers license undocumented people can vote in NY. Further the bill limits the dentention time allowed to hold criminal illegals. I'm sure that dope Murphy will be on board soon.

This simply isn't true, undocumented persons will not be able to vote as the requirements to register are:

- Be a United States citizen;
- Be 18 years old by December 31 of the year in which you file this form (note: you must be 18 years old by the date of the general, primary or other election in which you want to vote);
- Resident of this state and the county, city or village for at least 30 days before the election;
- Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction (unless parolee pardoned or restored rights of citizenship);
- Not be adjudged mentally incompetent by a court;
- Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.

And the bill has no provisions regarding detention, incarceration or any other form of detainment.

The point is the animal that killed Ms. Carolina was a bad dude and his citizenship status has nothing to do with that.

1. if they are already here illegally what's to stop them from checking the box claiming they are a US citizen and registering to vote? --- NOTHING
2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.

What? Checking a box is not how we prove our citizenship in this country. We have these things called Social Security Cards and Birth Certificates. Citizenship status not on your drivers license and at voting polls you're typically required to bring two forms of ID one of which is those documents that "undocumented" people wouldn't have.

2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.

Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Ramirez... Please explain what their citizenship status had to do with the murders they committed or is it you just prefer you killers who kill in the united states to be born here?

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135jc wrote:
Hey Cuomo today just signed a bill designed to give scum like this a drivers license. With a drivers license undocumented people can vote in NY. Further the bill limits the dentention time allowed to hold criminal illegals. I'm sure that dope Murphy will be on board soon.

This simply isn't true, undocumented persons will not be able to vote as the requirements to register are:

- Be a United States citizen;
- Be 18 years old by December 31 of the year in which you file this form (note: you must be 18 years old by the date of the general, primary or other election in which you want to vote);
- Resident of this state and the county, city or village for at least 30 days before the election;
- Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction (unless parolee pardoned or restored rights of citizenship);
- Not be adjudged mentally incompetent by a court;
- Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.

And the bill has no provisions regarding detention, incarceration or any other form of detainment.

The point is the animal that killed Ms. Carolina was a bad dude and his citizenship status has nothing to do with that.

1. if they are already here illegally what's to stop them from checking the box claiming they are a US citizen and registering to vote? --- NOTHING
2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.

What? Checking a box is not how we prove our citizenship in this country. We have these things called Social Security Cards and Birth Certificates. Citizenship status not on your drivers license and at voting polls you're typically required to bring two forms of ID one of which is those documents that "undocumented" people wouldn't have.

2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.

Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Ramirez... Please explain what their citizenship status had to do with the murders they committed or is it you just prefer you killers who kill in the united states to be born here?

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135jc wrote:
Hey Cuomo today just signed a bill designed to give scum like this a drivers license. With a drivers license undocumented people can vote in NY. Further the bill limits the dentention time allowed to hold criminal illegals. I'm sure that dope Murphy will be on board soon.

This simply isn't true, undocumented persons will not be able to vote as the requirements to register are:

- Be a United States citizen;
- Be 18 years old by December 31 of the year in which you file this form (note: you must be 18 years old by the date of the general, primary or other election in which you want to vote);
- Resident of this state and the county, city or village for at least 30 days before the election;
- Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction (unless parolee pardoned or restored rights of citizenship);
- Not be adjudged mentally incompetent by a court;
- Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.

And the bill has no provisions regarding detention, incarceration or any other form of detainment.

The point is the animal that killed Ms. Carolina was a bad dude and his citizenship status has nothing to do with that.

1. if they are already here illegally what's to stop them from checking the box claiming they are a US citizen and registering to vote? --- NOTHING
2. he was here illegally after being deported twice, his status has everything to do with her being dead at his hands.

K-Lo2 wrote:
https://www.ny.gov/services/register-vote

Social Security number required

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135jc wrote:
Here is a link to what NY requires someone to possess in order to vote.


https://www.voteriders.org/ufaqs/new-york-voter-id-information/

You should probably try getting your voter registration requirements from the state in question and not some non-profit from Santa Monica, California. Notice the .gov... that's official

https://www.elections.ny.gov/VotingRegister.html

135jc wrote:
Here is a link to what NY requires someone to possess in order to vote.


https://www.voteriders.org/ufaqs/new-york-voter-id-information/

user1111 wrote:
In order to vote you first must register. If you are not registered you cannot vote. Surprise you smart folks did not know that. To register to vote you must:

Be a U.S. citizen;
Be 18 years old by the end of this year;
Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction; and
Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.

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135jc wrote:
Hey Cuomo today just signed a bill designed to give scum like this a drivers license. With a drivers license undocumented people can vote in NY. Further the bill limits the dentention time allowed to hold criminal illegals. I'm sure that dope Murphy will be on board soon.

This simply isn't true, undocumented persons will not be able to vote as the requirements to register are:

- Be a United States citizen;
- Be 18 years old by December 31 of the year in which you file this form (note: you must be 18 years old by the date of the general, primary or other election in which you want to vote);
- Resident of this state and the county, city or village for at least 30 days before the election;
- Not be in prison or on parole for a felony conviction (unless parolee pardoned or restored rights of citizenship);
- Not be adjudged mentally incompetent by a court;
- Not claim the right to vote elsewhere.

And the bill has no provisions regarding detention, incarceration or any other form of detainment.

The point is the animal that killed Ms. Carolina was a bad dude and his citizenship status has nothing to do with that.

135jc wrote:
Hey Cuomo today just signed a bill designed to give scum like this a drivers license. With a drivers license undocumented people can vote in NY. Further the bill limits the dentention time allowed to hold criminal illegals. I'm sure that dope Murphy will be on board soon.

akosmin wrote:
Not only Fulop, but the City Council as well.

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Yvonne wrote:
I did an OPRA awhile back from the Hudson County prison. 50 to 60 percent of the people in the prison are non-citizens. The charges various from sexual assault, rape, drug/and or sex trafficking. The politicans are in favor of immigration due to the census. The more people, the higher the dollar amount and perhaps an additional congressional seat.

This is a perfect example of what happens when people quote numbers and facts without understanding them or their context. Something of which you are quite an expert!

The Kearny jail has an unusually large percentage of non-citizens, but that is because the county has a contract with the federal government to house ICA detainees in that jail. A more informed opinion would be to understand how many of the Kearny jail prisoners are there because of crimes committed locally and are not there as part of the ICE contract. Of course, that would take time, effort, and intellectual honesty. Much easier to spout numbers without logic or reasoning.

What you seem to fail to understand is that those locked up are criminals. As is the person who killed the jogger!

LOL WUT!? Kindly point out where have I ever said such a thing? I am stridently against illegal immigration. That doesn't negate expecting intellectual honesty in a conversation in which facts and numbers are being thrown around.

The problem with Yvonne's post (and previous statements on this subject, and others) is that she likes to confuse things by throwing out numbers without context, to try and bolster her argument or opinion. Her post was clearly meant to convey two ideas: that most criminals are illegal immigrants (not true) and that the illegal immigrant population in JC (and this area) is much larger than most people think or assume.

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Yvonne wrote:
I did an OPRA awhile back from the Hudson County prison. 50 to 60 percent of the people in the prison are non-citizens. The charges various from sexual assault, rape, drug/and or sex trafficking. The politicans are in favor of immigration due to the census. The more people, the higher the dollar amount and perhaps an additional congressional seat.

This is a perfect example of what happens when people quote numbers and facts without understanding them or their context. Something of which you are quite an expert!

The Kearny jail has an unusually large percentage of non-citizens, but that is because the county has a contract with the federal government to house ICA detainees in that jail. A more informed opinion would be to understand how many of the Kearny jail prisoners are there because of crimes committed locally and are not there as part of the ICE contract. Of course, that would take time, effort, and intellectual honesty. Much easier to spout numbers without logic or reasoning.

What you seem to fail to understand is that those locked up are criminals. As is the person who killed the jogger!

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Yvonne wrote:
I did an OPRA awhile back from the Hudson County prison. 50 to 60 percent of the people in the prison are non-citizens. The charges various from sexual assault, rape, drug/and or sex trafficking. The politicans are in favor of immigration due to the census. The more people, the higher the dollar amount and perhaps an additional congressional seat.

This is a perfect example of what happens when people quote numbers and facts without understanding them or their context. Something of which you are quite an expert!

The Kearny jail has an unusually large percentage of non-citizens, but that is because the county has a contract with the federal government to house ICA detainees in that jail. A more informed opinion would be to understand how many of the Kearny jail prisoners are there because of crimes committed locally and are not there as part of the ICE contract. Of course, that would take time, effort, and intellectual honesty. Much easier to spout numbers without logic or reasoning.

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Yvonne wrote:
I did an OPRA awhile back from the Hudson County prison. 50 to 60 percent of the people in the prison are non-citizens. The charges various from sexual assault, rape, drug/and or sex trafficking. The politicans are in favor of immigration due to the census. The more people, the higher the dollar amount and perhaps an additional congressional seat.

This is a perfect example of what happens when people quote numbers and facts without understanding them or their context. Something of which you are quite an expert!

The Kearny jail has an unusually large percentage of non-citizens, but that is because the county has a contract with the federal government to house ICA detainees in that jail. A more informed opinion would be to understand how many of the Kearny jail prisoners are there because of crimes committed locally and are not there as part of the ICE contract. Of course, that would take time, effort, and intellectual honesty. Much easier to spout numbers without logic or reasoning.

Yvonne wrote:
I did an OPRA awhile back from the Hudson County prison. 50 to 60 percent of the people in the prison are non-citizens. The charges various from sexual assault, rape, drug/and or sex trafficking. The politicans are in favor of immigration due to the census. The more people, the higher the dollar amount and perhaps an additional congressional seat.

Yvonne wrote:
I did an OPRA awhile back from the Hudson County prison. 50 to 60 percent of the people in the prison are non-citizens. The charges various from sexual assault, rape, drug/and or sex trafficking. The politicans are in favor of immigration due to the census. The more people, the higher the dollar amount and perhaps an additional congressional seat.