tern wrote:
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Let's say you were looking out the window and saw someone being killed and called it in. As a crowd gathers everyone in your neighborhood sees the Homicide Unit come to your door and everyone knows your a witness now and where you live including any gang members that are around.

I may be over-thinking this, but...

If you look out your window and see a gang member shot, presumably a gang from another area has come into 'your' gang's turf and attacked them, then they flee.

So the gangsters in the street outside are the local gang, who have just had one of their friends shot, so surely this gang are not going to care if you grass on their enemy gang.

Robin.

Let's say you were looking out the window and saw someone being killed and called it in. As a crowd gathers everyone in your neighborhood sees the Homicide Unit come to your door and everyone knows your a witness now and where you live including any gang members that are around.

EasyGibson wrote:

This means you're into the invasion of privacy?

JCorNYC wrote:
CCTV is a great idea but we can't do that here because many people including the progressives and liberals who posts on JC List will complain about invasion of privacy. (rolls-eyes)

JCorNYC wrote:
CCTV is a great idea but we can't do that here because many people including the progressives and liberals who posts on JC List will complain about invasion of privacy. (rolls-eyes)


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fat-ass-bike wrote:
Then we should do what they do in the UK, Australia and many European cities where they flood the area with CCTV.

We should also have CCTV fitted to every home and dash cams for every car. This will void the need for witnesses and the footage captured will act as true image of what took place.

Once it is delivered to the police and if a set time has transpired with no action, the video provider could then pass it onto the media!

There are technical checks that can be used to ensue no-one has tampered with the footage thus securing its authenticity - noting that even police are being questioned if they witness a crime !!

fat-ass-bike wrote:
Then we should do what they do in the UK, Australia and many European cities where they flood the area with CCTV.

We should also have CCTV fitted to every home and dash cams for every car. This will void the need for witnesses and the footage captured will act as true image of what took place.

Once it is delivered to the police and if a set time has transpired with no action, the video provider could then pass it onto the media!

There are technical checks that can be used to ensue no-one has tampered with the footage thus securing its authenticity - noting that even police are being questioned if they witness a crime !!

fat-ass-bike wrote:
Then we should do what they do in the UK, Australia and many European cities where they flood the area with CCTV.

We should also have CCTV fitted to every home and dash cams for every car. This will void the need for witnesses and the footage captured will act as true image of what took place.

Once it is delivered to the police and if a set time has transpired with no action, the video provider could then pass it onto the media!

There are technical checks that can be used to ensue no-one has tampered with the footage thus securing its authenticity - noting that even police are being questioned if they witness a crime !!

fat-ass-bike wrote:
Then why complain if police aren't doing their job ... how can they!

fat-ass-bike wrote:
As for giving evidence, I'd be going to the police and not the other way around - I'd make my own way to the police station to make that statement, however what some people are neglecting to mention is that it isn't a random bystander being killed, but more often it's one gang member against another or a drug user trying to rip-off a seller (or visa versa) and thus no empathy is given to 'crooks' or 'drug addicts' being killed. Often the give away of this occurring is the time of day (middle of the night) and location, near parks, drug houses and where drug deals are carried out.

fat-ass-bike wrote:
What the community needs to do is get the drug dealers out of their area by reporting where the deals are taking place and where the drugs are being stored so cops can make raids and gather intelligence - This would also include who is fencing stolen goods; such as cars, car parts and items optioned from robberies and burglaries.

JerseyCityNj wrote:
Everything you said sounds good in theory but ask your self a serious question. Would you come forward if you witnessed a murder?

Let's say you were looking out the window and saw someone being killed and called it in. As a crowd gathers everyone in your neighborhood sees the Homicide Unit come to your door and everyone knows your a witness now and where you live including any gang members that are around. This doesn't bother you so you continue to cooperate. You give all posible information and even an ID of the suspect. The suspect turns out to be a gang member and his gang has many members in your neighorhood. While he is locked up with a high bail he is inside letting all the other gang members know your his snitch and the only one keeping him locked up. He gets all the info he needs on who you are and where you live from his defense attorney.

The case is built on the day you testify since he got rid of the murder weapon before his arrest. So now the gang members have three to five years until the trial date to get to you and/or your family. To make matters worst even law abiding neighbors and friends will not associate themselves with you for fear of getting the same retaliation you may get so now your a target and also a loner. The gangs won't stop targeting you and any known family for attacks until you change your statement. So would you and your families lives or still go through with the trial because it is the right thing to do?

Keep in mind this isn't the movies you will not get witness protection for a street murder.

fat-ass-bike wrote:
I have empathy with the police in that community the crime was committed, especially when the community's' attitude towards speaking out and being a witness or providing information is so poor - The odds for this crime being solved with the assailant put behind bars would have to be low and of course very frustrating for police.

The community in some parts of JC need to take a hard look at themselves instead of expecting the police to wave a magic wand to fix the situation without anyone stepping up and providing evidence for that to happen!

The culture need to change if you want law and order