Mother of God - is there something in the water tonight? Full moon? Pod people? Daleks?

heights wrote:
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MoloTov wrote:

As cold and controversial as I'm sure it will seem at first blush, after much serious contemplation I wholeheartedly believe that for both society and their own sake, that the most TRULY hopeless cases would better off being put out of their misery i.e. euthenized. Yes they should be given EVERY opportunity (access to mental health/job training etc) to improve their lives prior to doing that, but if they refuse or are wholly incapable of improving their lives then I see this as a humane/rational/logical alternative to simply turning a blind eye to their profound misery and letting them languish away in their miserable existence while at the same time burdening society (costs associated with their medical care due to no insurance, degradation of our community due to their public elimination, drunkenness, reduced quality of life by their disturbing presence in our community etc)

To reiterate this would be the LAST resort after giving them EVERY opportunity to improve their lives (thru governmental intervention) but it's a sad reality that their simply are HOPELESS cases that due to advanced age and/or irreversible diminished mental capacity and/or chronic addiction will NEVER EVER EVER be able to be saved and/or be able to in any form or fashion contribute anything positive to society (the old man who wears the dark trench coat comes to mind..once saw him masturbating on an apt stoop) and who would I TRULY believe would be better off being put out of such a wholly sad and miserable, hopeless existence, one that you wouldn't wish upon your worst enemy, as in Imh (albeit admittedly extremely controversial) o, prolonged permanent misery such as that which is experienced by the MOST profoundly hopeless of hopeless cases, again for both their and society's sake would be better off being humanely euthanized (As cold as it sounds I do see this as a win win proposition) Sad but 100% TRUE so go ahead and refer to me as Hitler ALL you wan as I am simply trying to being logical/rational/REAL about such s profoundly sad/vexing/frustrating situation, and again this would be for only the most truly wholly HOPELESS cases that either refuse or are incapable of improving their lives circumstances thru gov't intervention (which would in fact be a small minority of all homeless people) because no one can dispute the fact that VAST majority of society turn a blind eye to their miserable existence/suffering ANYWAY and in their heart of hearts surely COULDN'T care less if/when they die in the streets anyway!!!!!!! (most in their heart of hears would probably be glad not to have to see/smell them again, though obviously SOME do NOT such as the person who started this thread and other like minded and or religious types)

Lastly the purpose of this post wasn't to be controversial for controversy's sake but rather to offer a (admittedly) radical solution to such a vexing problem as chronic homeless and the burden it places on society, as I'm a free thinker and an atheist so my thoughts are unburdened by religious dogma. I hope once you get past the shock of my proposition you see that my proposition is the result of logic/reason/practicality/ and in my view indeed HUMANNESS, and that I'm not a would be Stalin/Hitler who thinks that ALL homeless people should be killed!!!!!!!!!!

Wouldn't relocating them out of the county to a facility be more humane then your concept ? At least this answers the question of the post.

MoloTov wrote:

As cold and controversial as I'm sure it will seem at first blush, after much serious contemplation I wholeheartedly believe that for both society and their own sake, that the most TRULY hopeless cases would better off being put out of their misery i.e. euthenized. Yes they should be given EVERY opportunity (access to mental health/job training etc) to improve their lives prior to doing that, but if they refuse or are wholly incapable of improving their lives then I see this as a humane/rational/logical alternative to simply turning a blind eye to their profound misery and letting them languish away in their miserable existence while at the same time burdening society (costs associated with their medical care due to no insurance, degradation of our community due to their public elimination, drunkenness, reduced quality of life by their disturbing presence in our community etc)

To reiterate this would be the LAST resort after giving them EVERY opportunity to improve their lives (thru governmental intervention) but it's a sad reality that their simply are HOPELESS cases that due to advanced age and/or irreversible diminished mental capacity and/or chronic addiction will NEVER EVER EVER be able to be saved and/or be able to in any form or fashion contribute anything positive to society (the old man who wears the dark trench coat comes to mind..once saw him masturbating on an apt stoop) and who would I TRULY believe would be better off being put out of such a wholly sad and miserable, hopeless existence, one that you wouldn't wish upon your worst enemy, as in Imh (albeit admittedly extremely controversial) o, prolonged permanent misery such as that which is experienced by the MOST profoundly hopeless of hopeless cases, again for both their and society's sake would be better off being humanely euthanized (As cold as it sounds I do see this as a win win proposition) Sad but 100% TRUE so go ahead and refer to me as Hitler ALL you wan as I am simply trying to being logical/rational/REAL about such s profoundly sad/vexing/frustrating situation, and again this would be for only the most truly wholly HOPELESS cases that either refuse or are incapable of improving their lives circumstances thru gov't intervention (which would in fact be a small minority of all homeless people) because no one can dispute the fact that VAST majority of society turn a blind eye to their miserable existence/suffering ANYWAY and in their heart of hearts surely COULDN'T care less if/when they die in the streets anyway!!!!!!! (most in their heart of hears would probably be glad not to have to see/smell them again, though obviously SOME do NOT such as the person who started this thread and other like minded and or religious types)

Lastly the purpose of this post wasn't to be controversial for controversy's sake but rather to offer a (admittedly) radical solution to such a vexing problem as chronic homeless and the burden it places on society, as I'm a free thinker and an atheist so my thoughts are unburdened by religious dogma. I hope once you get past the shock of my proposition you see that my proposition is the result of logic/reason/practicality/ and in my view indeed HUMANNESS, and that I'm not a would be Stalin/Hitler who thinks that ALL homeless people should be killed!!!!!!!!!!

Wishful_Thinking wrote:
I'm going to contribute, since you are doing important - perhaps, yes, God's work. What bothers me about the premise is that we/I can end homelessness; at best you - with our help - can ameliorate it's effects. Can I really end the causes - mental illness, substance abuse, uneducated life decisions?