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This doctor, sorry I don't know his name, spoke last year at the council meeting. He is against the closing of the street. The parking lot does not exits anymore so it is more difficult for his patients to reach him. But he was not the only business to speak against this ordinance.
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So why are you using his office as a reason to be against the pedestrian plaza?
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Well, it seems fair, doesn't it? You *love* to speak for others and have no qualms whatsoever in imputing thoughts and attitudes to others, usually based on very faulty logic. So, if you can speak for others, don't be offended if we so choose to do the same to you.
Posted on: 2015/6/25 19:45
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Now I have people speaking for me. I am just stating a fact where it was located. It was obvious this doctor's patients used his services and found the parking situation OK.
Posted on: 2015/6/25 19:23
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By Yvonne's standards, that parking deck is TOO FAR. She thinks that parking should be available DIRECTLY in front of her destination, and that it should be free.
Posted on: 2015/6/25 13:16
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There is now a parking deck that is available.
Posted on: 2015/6/25 12:33
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She has NO POINT. Yvonne is a like homeless Tourette's patient... aimlessly roaming the streets while spouting nonsense at a high pitch, loud volume. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Sometimes she actually manages to make a good point, but it gets lost in her ramblings. She would do her "causes" a great benefit by taming down her bizarre obsessions.
Posted on: 2015/6/25 12:04
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That's outside the boundary of the pedestrian plaza. Please remind me what your point is.
Posted on: 2015/6/25 11:56
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I do not know how long the doctor has been there but behind Duane Reed was a parking lot that the public used for years. It is no longer there due to development.
Posted on: 2015/6/25 10:27
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It was nice to see Councilmen Yun and Boggiano complain at the June 24th meeting that Mayor Fulop overstepped his powers on closing Newark St. Ironically, item 10z37 needs the council approval to be closed off for the Pride Parade on the same block. Why didn't the parade organizers go directly to Mayor Fulop? The answer is the mayor has no authority.
Posted on: 2015/6/25 1:20
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Yvonne, who cares?
Posted on: 2015/6/24 20:22
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It's outrageously insensitive of a lung doctor to set up shop on a block that doesn't have parking out front. What was he thinking?
Posted on: 2015/6/24 18:33
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I guess you do not or choose not to understand, there is no law to close Newark Avenue. The law that was created last year by the city council was for 3 months. Opening Newark Avenue requires a vote of the city council. Here is the process: first reading for introduction, second reading, the public speaks then the council votes. Most votes requires 5 votes but some votes do require 6 votes. After it is passed, it still needs 20 days until it becomes law. So you might ask why? Someone, like the doctor who sees patients on Newark Avenue has the right to challenge the ordinance because it will be a hardship for his patients to see him. I understand this doctor spoke last year and Councilman Rivera mentioned him at the caucus meeting. He is a lung specialist and it is difficult for his patients. This doctor would have the right to challenge the ordinance but Fulop closed the street so there is not ordinance to challenge. This reminds me, JC had a habit of placing stop lights on streets, but that is the right of the state not JC. So I know people who challenged tickets and won. This is the same thing. Anyone can drive their car down the street after they remove the barrier and could challenge and win. The city could not fine the driver because there is no legal ordinance this passed. Also, the city must advertise in the newspaper on ordinances. I was surprised the street closed on the 18th of June I thought there was an accident on Newark Avenue. There was no legal notice before this happened.
By the way, the city has two resolutions to close streets for festivals, one is for St. Anthony's Church and the other is for Mount Carmel Church. Without the council's vote those churches could not use the streets.
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AGAIN: what law was created that bypassed the city council? You keep saying the same thing. You have not PROVEN or provided ANY FACTS to show that a law was passed "without council consent".
Posted on: 2015/6/24 16:28
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And you clearly do not understand the intent of the people who changed our government, they would be outraged that a mayor would create law without council consent. You are trying to clean up Fulop's mess.
Posted on: 2015/6/24 15:48
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Ah, clearly you do not understand, or are unable to differentiate, between what is a law and a mayoral decision or directive. Also, your analogy is comically deficient. You really need to stop spouting nonsense, as you are only making yourself look worse. Closing Newark Avenue is not a law. The mayor can direct any of his appointees to carry out orders. That is legal right and power. If the order is legal, and sound, they are to follow it. Of course, as it is your usual SOP, you evade and deflect at every turn when proven wrong. Can you please CLEARLY STATE how the mayor is violating the Faulkner Act? What law was instituted (according to you) that somehow bypassed the Council??
Posted on: 2015/6/24 15:42
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I remember when JC changed from the Commission to the Faulkner Act and I also read the Faulkner Act. You are dancing around the issue, Fulop does not have both council and mayor powers. Here is an analogy, you don't take ownership of a house until you sign the papers. Only an ordinance creates law and that requires 5 members of the council. What we have here is one person deciding to close a street or spend money. JC did not elect a King or Pope. There is no central authority. You are just justifying the issue to make Fulop look good. But he went above his pay grade. The reason JC changed from the Commission to Faulkner was to stop mayors like Frank Hague. Activists wanted to break up the influence of commissioners and separate the powers. Fulop is acting like Boss Hague.
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Under the Faulkner Act, the mayor is responsible for submitting a budget, which it is then approved by the City Council. They can lower his requests, if they so choose. That does NOT mean that every expenditure by mayor is subject to council approval. In fact, the Faulkner Act, and the Mayor-Council provisions, are meant to provide for a STRONG mayor position. He has the legal power and right to make decisions on his own, and the council has the right to advise or consent on mayoral decisions. I think you don't quite the Faulkner Act yourself. You keep beating the same war drum, but as we already know, you hardly fully understand half the stuff you say or write. As for Healy and Fulop, and your accusations directed at me, I hate to break it to you, but I am not a fan of either one. I was tentatively/cautiously optimistic about Fulop early on, but I am already on the record here in JCLIST about my disappointment with him. So, you can stop deflecting.
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And you don't know how the Faulkner Act works, the council votes on the money before the mayor spends it. The council creates the laws before the mayor implements the law. That is separation of powers. What a phony, if Healy did this you would all over him.
Posted on: 2015/6/24 12:54
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So, no, you don't know, or fully grasp, the meaning of "separation of powers". Got it.
Posted on: 2015/6/24 11:25
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This is not the first time Fulop took action without council approval. The funds for the murals were approved after the murals were painted. I thought it was a glitch but I see it is his pattern. Apparently, Fulop?s supporters approve of the mayor violating the Faulkner Act.
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1. Clearly no, she does not understand the concept of "separation of powers," 2. She also believes Puerto Ricans are illegal aliens from a foreign country, and 3. She was a teacher!!! And people wonder why the American education system is trending down!
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Woman, you have NO CLUE about half the stuff you say or claim. Do you EVEN KNOW what the expression "separation of powers" mean?
Posted on: 2015/6/23 22:50
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If former Mayor Healy closed a street without the council consent, I am sure Fulop would be playing this up in the press. I see Fulop becoming another Chris Christie. He does what he wants and expects the council to follow suit. There is no separation of powers.
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If this pedestrian plaza becomes permanent, and somehow the Jersey Ave turnpike extension doesn't happen, it will be a major turning point for Jersey City.
Posted on: 2015/6/23 15:45
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Oh the horror! Families enjoying open space, children laughing, people hanging out with their friends, what a horrible scene this has created! And the TRAFFIC- don?t get me started. It was basically backed up all the way to Lancaster because this stretch is closed to cars. God I hate this anti-car agenda the city is pushing through.
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It is incredible how awesome a block becomes after the simple act of closing it to traffic.
Right now, it is idyllic. Just a beautiful, chill, cool little block. Why anyone wants to ruin it with cars is really hard for me to understand.
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You know, since the plaza has reopened, I have yet to see one illegal k-turn on that stretch of Newark. Go figure.
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Yvonne is the prototypical person representing the mindset that all change is bad. It is regressive and counter-intuitive. It is borne of simplicity and selfishness. In short, it is crass, rude and prevents the kind of change that would make the city better. As for liability, her point is moot. If you fell in a pot-hole crossing the street, the city would be liable regardless if the street was closed or not. Remember the claims that came to the town due to speed bumps and cars bottoming out? The city paid those out. Having this road closed to cars changes absolutely nothing in terms of liability.
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That is an absolutely asinine and rude reply. I don't always agree with her, but in this case, Yvonne is correct about the process of laws and liability. If someone trips in a pothole, or falls on the plaza - the city is potentially liable. If the plaza is opened without following the necessary legal protocol of the passing and enactment of a law and such an incident occurs, there are definitely additional liability concerns.
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