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Yeah. Some people also say that the best way to be remembered fondly is to die. I guess we should say nothing bad of serial killers, nazi criminals, or otherwise evil people, because it is not proper to speak ill of the dead. Good luck with that philosophy.

I am NOT happy the guy, and I *never* wish ill will on anyone, but (like I said before) I will not be shedding any tears or feel any sadness at his passing. As far as I am concerned, the state just lowered its annual deficit by 200K. Winning!


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The "federal benchmarks" (standards based reforms, et al.,) created in accordance with the philosophy of market capitalism, do not factor poverty into the equation. No surprise, of course.


Are you saying that no poor kid could ever rise above the station unto which he was born? Are you saying that poverty automatically determines your future? Because, I hate to break it to you, but I have friends who grew up in the projects, and they lived and experienced some horrible things, and yet they rose above it and now live productive, fulfilling upper middle class lives. Yikes, ain't that something?! People can work hard and get ahead in life... what a fascinating and novel concept.


Nope. Simply responding to the ridiculous assignation of blame asserted in your post, that Epps is responsible for the outcomes you allude to.
Of course, as would be predicted, you start talking about bootstrapping. This is a mundane, outdated and disproven argument. There is no consideration given to social environment or inherent inequities associated with a capitalist system. The friends you mention are merely the lucky ones. For every one of them, a hundred others are either dead or in prison.

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The "federal benchmarks" (standards based reforms, et al.,) created in accordance with the philosophy of market capitalism, do not factor poverty into the equation. No surprise, of course.


Are you saying that no poor kid could ever rise above the station unto which he was born? Are you saying that poverty automatically determines your future? Because, I hate to break it to you, but I have friends who grew up in the projects, and they lived and experienced some horrible things, and yet they rose above it and now live productive, fulfilling upper middle class lives. Yikes, ain't that something?! People can work hard and get ahead in life... what a fascinating and novel concept.

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Yeah. Some people also say that the best way to be remembered fondly is to die. I guess we should say nothing bad of serial killers, nazi criminals, or otherwise evil people, because it is not proper to speak ill of the dead. Good luck with that philosophy.

I am NOT happy the guy, and I *never* wish ill will on anyone, but (like I said before) I will not be shedding any tears or feel any sadness at his passing. As far as I am concerned, the state just lowered its annual deficit by 200K. Winning!

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I attended some school meetings during his term. I expressed concerns about spending yet he was always polite to me. I saw him at Mayor Cucci's funeral and repast. May he rest in peace.

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Charles T. Epps Jr., longtime Jersey City schools chief, dies at 70

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on March 20, 2015 at 9:34 AM, updated March 20, 2015 at 9:39 AM

Charles T. Epps Jr., the longtime Jersey City schools superintendent and former state assemblyman, was found dead in his Society Hill home this morning. He was 70.

Epps' death is sending shockwaves through Jersey City, where he spent nearly 50 years as an educator and school administrator.

JJ piece..

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ols_chi.html#incart_river


I am sure this will come across as cold hearted and callous, but ...


Yes you are being cold hearted and callous. Some people don't know when to shut the fuck up.


Cry me a river... The guy was a scam artist who did jack shit for the JC public schools. Lucky for us taxpayers, we will no longer have to pay his sorry ass an obscene pension.

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"The young girls are bad. I don't know what they're drinking today, but they're bad." -Charles T. Epps Jr

http://www.nj.com/hudson/voices/index ... mand_epps_resignatio.html


He was speaking as an advocate for girls to a group of Jersey City pastors. It's not as though he called a press conference for the express purpose of maligning girls. He was not making a public proclamation or call for action against girls. The intent was to raise concern and procure assistance from the ministers.

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...especially when you consider that at the time of his retirement, only 7 schools (out of 38) satisfied the federal benchmarks. His tenure as Superintendent was a joke... Let's see how long it takes to undo the damage of over a decade of mismanagement, patronage, apathy and lack of real leadership.


The "federal benchmarks" (standards based reforms, et al.,) created in accordance with the philosophy of market capitalism, do not factor poverty into the equation. No surprise, of course. As if management and leadership are the primary determinants of educational outcomes.

Condolences to the friends and family.

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"The young girls are bad. I don't know what they're drinking today, but they're bad." -Charles T. Epps Jr

http://www.nj.com/hudson/voices/index ... mand_epps_resignatio.html

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Charles T. Epps Jr., longtime Jersey City schools chief, dies at 70

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on March 20, 2015 at 9:34 AM, updated March 20, 2015 at 9:39 AM

Charles T. Epps Jr., the longtime Jersey City schools superintendent and former state assemblyman, was found dead in his Society Hill home this morning. He was 70.

Epps' death is sending shockwaves through Jersey City, where he spent nearly 50 years as an educator and school administrator.

JJ piece..

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ols_chi.html#incart_river


I am sure this will come across as cold hearted and callous, but ...


Yes you are being cold hearted and callous. Some people don't know when to shut the fuck up.

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Yay! I hope we don't continue to pay out money to his family.

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The good thing for us taxpayers is that the lifestyle of these fat cats is usually unhealthy. Thank God he didn't become a centenarian.

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Charles T. Epps Jr., longtime Jersey City schools chief, dies at 70

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on March 20, 2015 at 9:34 AM, updated March 20, 2015 at 9:39 AM

Charles T. Epps Jr., the longtime Jersey City schools superintendent and former state assemblyman, was found dead in his Society Hill home this morning. He was 70.

Epps' death is sending shockwaves through Jersey City, where he spent nearly 50 years as an educator and school administrator.

JJ piece..

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ols_chi.html#incart_river


I am sure this will come across as cold hearted and callous, but I will not be shedding a tear for this guy and his recent passing. The only thing he improved in over a decade of overseeing the JC public school system was his salary. Even after being forced to resign, he continued to shaft the city and state by pulling what was just last week revealed to be the largest public pension in the State of NJ, just shy of $195,000. The guy worked the system to retire with a pension that is downright obscene, especially when you consider that at the time of his retirement, only 7 schools (out of 38) satisfied the federal benchmarks. His tenure as Superintendent was a joke, and his attitude of entitlement a big FU to the community. Let's see how long it takes to undo the damage of over a decade of mismanagement, patronage, apathy and lack of real leadership.

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Charles T. Epps Jr., longtime Jersey City schools chief, dies at 70

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on March 20, 2015 at 9:34 AM, updated March 20, 2015 at 9:39 AM

Charles T. Epps Jr., the longtime Jersey City schools superintendent and former state assemblyman, was found dead in his Society Hill home this morning. He was 70.

Epps' death is sending shockwaves through Jersey City, where he spent nearly 50 years as an educator and school administrator.

JJ piece..

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ols_chi.html#incart_river

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