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Re: Jersey City & NYC in 1869
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To get a birds eye view without an aircraft you simply lower your POV of a map to a low angle. Voila! This is exactly what Google Earth does.


... so you're saying the artist in 1860 should have used Google Earth to get the correct birds-eye view.


Ummm.... yes, of course, why not? Or he could have just looked at a standard paper map from a low angle.

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I also purchased in '97. It was a small 2-family by St. Peter's College that needed some TLC (it also smelled very strongly of curry). I think I paid about $85k for the place, which would be around $125k in today's money. My rental unit completely covered my principal and interest payment.

I miss that house sometimes. My apartment was tiny, but the house was so easy to take care of.


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you, so we could buy in 97, which turned out to be exact bottom of that market cycle in real dollars. Like Gates, Perot, and many other "moguls",
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To get a birds eye view without an aircraft you simply lower your POV of a map to a low angle. Voila! This is exactly what Google Earth does.


... so you're saying the artist in 1860 should have used Google Earth to get the correct birds-eye view.

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Have you read Outliers? One section is about that timing is everything, had Gates and Jobs been born a decade earlier or later it's unlikely they would have been giants in tech. My wife and I were lucky to be a decade or so older than you, so we could buy in 97, which turned out to be exact bottom of that market cycle in real dollars. Like Gates, Perot, and many other "moguls", all you need is to get real lucky once, and then not screw it up. We did kinda screw up not being more aggressive looking for our 2nd in 99-01, there was no clue the market would suddenly rocket. There's a brick 4 family on 4th that kills me every time I drive past it, asking $325k and we lowballed it!

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Should have brought all the land in JC back then - probably for 10 bucks!!! and today I'll be so stinking rich!!! HA!

Oh wait, I wasn't even born way back in the 1800's.

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I regret not buying a property downtown in 1994. I tried, but being right out of college I couldn't get a loan.

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Should have brought all the land in JC back then - probably for 10 bucks!!! and today I'll be so stinking rich!!! HA!

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brewster wrote: The charts of such an important waterway had long been quite accurate at that time.
... but this isn't a chart. The perspective seems pretty obvious today, but a birds-eye view in the 1860s was still very much up to the artist's interpretation. That, and the print is labeled "... and environs" which means it's New York and the surrounding area.
To get a birds eye view without an aircraft you simply lower your POV of a map to a low angle. Voila! This is exactly what Google Earth does.  photo NYharborGearth_zps419b70a4.jpg

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The charts of such an important waterway had long been quite accurate at that time.



... but this isn't a chart.

The perspective seems pretty obvious today, but a birds-eye view in the 1860s was still very much up to the artist's interpretation. That, and the print is labeled "... and environs" which means it's New York and the surrounding area.

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Why is there a long sound where Brooklyn Heights should be? If that's supposed to be the Narrows it's in the wrong direction on map that seems accurately detailed in other respects. Did they have fisheye lenses in 1869? Note the way the E river past Hell's gate seems to continue north parallel to the Hudson rather than heading east to LI sound. Weird. The charts of such an important waterway had long been quite accurate at that time.

Cool image, thanks.

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Should have brought all the land in JC back then - probably for 10 bucks!!! and today I'll be so stinking rich!!! HA!

Oh wait, I wasn't even born way back in the 1800's.

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Would ya look at that, there actually was a cove in Harsimus Cove, and I see Communipaw Cove as well.

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