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Re: Vesey St. May Be Off-Limits For Years
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Good way to hijack the tragedy of 9/11 for your racist rant there....

Seriously webmaster, why is this crap tolerated???


What racism? What is wrong with you people? First -- he said "foreigner" and not Muslim, and even if he had said Muslim it would not be racist because the people who attacked the WTC were MUSLIM extremists. If you get mugged by a white guy and the description is caucasian male it's ok, but if you're mugged by a different race and describe them as arab, black, or hispanic it becomes racist?

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It is the price we have to pay due to ignorance for allowing these foreigners to raze the Twin Towers also the inconvenience to connect does not even begin to equal the suffering of the loss of loved ones and the survivors of the W.T.C. tragedy of 9 11.


Good way to hijack the tragedy of 9/11 for your racist rant there....

Seriously webmaster, why is this crap tolerated???

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Maybe I'm missing something here but with VESEY closed between Church and West Broadway how is one to exit the PATH and get into the Church Street subway tunnel (2,3 trains at Park Place, and E train at the old WTC stop?)


I think everyone will have to walk one block north on West Broadway and then make a left on the next block to go towards Church St., and towards the subway. But if you worked a block south or east of WTC, you're really going to be walking out of your way.

I guess extending the sidewalk will just let more people walk on the sidewalk at a time. Kind of like now, at Vesey at Church were everyone is trying to cross the street and it gets all backed up. If the sidewalks were wider, that might somehow help, a little bit, maybe.

Of the recent configurations, I liked it best when they had 2 entrances open - the East/Church St. side, and the North/West Broadway side. It kind of let people filter themselves out a little bit depending which way they were going.

And, as for signage, I think the best signage would be signs directing the tourists to tourist visiting areas. Especially on Fridays, there are so many tourists who get to WTC, and stand in front of the stairs/escalators, looking at their tour books and wondering "Which way do we go?" I know there are viewing platforms, why don't they make signs so the tourists know where they are?

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Maybe I'm missing something here but with VESEY closed between Church and West Broadway how is one to exit the PATH and get into the Church Street subway tunnel (2,3 trains at Park Place, and E train at the old WTC stop?)

What good does "new signage and extending curb cuts to expand the width of the surrounding sidewalks on Barclay" do. In fact what in blue blazes does it even MEAN?

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I know, let's make it even harder to connect to east side trains. Maybe we can get the MTA to eliminate the Fulton Street station entirely.

It is the price we have to pay due to ignorance for allowing these foreigners to raze the Twin Towers also the inconvenience to connect does not even begin to equal the suffering of the loss of loved ones and the survivors of the W.T.C. tragedy of 9 11.

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I know, let's make it even harder to connect to east side trains. Maybe we can get the MTA to eliminate the Fulton Street station entirely.

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Webmaster: Please do not delete, this is relevant to the thousands of downtown J.C. residents who commute through WTC everyday.

New York Sun | September 9, 2008

In a signal that residents and business owners in Lower Manhattan could soon be facing new challenges related to the redevelopment of the World Trade Center site, the city is finalizing plans to close Vesey Street ? possibly for several years ? to accommodate the next phase of construction.

The duration of the closure of Vesey Street between Church Street and West Broadway is being discussed by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and the city's Department of Transportation. It could last for the duration of construction of Tower 2, which could take up to five years, according to several sources.

"I am not sure about the five years, if it has to be that long," Council Member Alan Gerson said yesterday in an interview.

"It should be closed when the next phase begins because of safety issues. It is an important thoroughfare for commuters, but dragging the construction out much longer is worse than the inconvenience to the community of closing Vesey street," he said.

To accommodate the spillover from the closure of Vesey, which serves as a main thoroughfare to PATH Transit Station, the Port Authority said it would be adding new signage and extending curb cuts to expand the width of the surrounding sidewalks on Barclay and Church streets, among others.

Up to 50,000 commuters a day use the PATH Transit Station.

At a Community Board 1 meeting last night, a Port Authority spokesman, Glenn Guzi, said the duration of the closure had not been determined.

"We know that it would have some impact," he said. "What is driving this issue is safety."

Mr. Guzi also said that "modifications" on Liberty Street could have an impact on street traffic, though he said he did on not expect a closure of that street to be necessary.

A spokesman for the transportation department, Scott Gastel, said the city is "discussing traffic plans for the area with the Port Authority."

The executive director of the Port Authority, Christopher Ward, will deliver a full assessment of the scheduling and budgets for the World Trade Center reconstruction plan on September 29.

Posted on: 2008/9/9 13:09
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