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Does anyone know when residents will start moving in? Seems like the building has been "almost complete" for a long time now.
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Considering that they can't seem to get it finished added to the crappy curtain wall panels that stand in for walls, I'd keep praying that they pass the date when you could legally back out of your contract.
Seriously, the brick is actually tiles and the walls are essentially paper thin with little insulation. I'm not sure I'd feel to great about the integrity of the stucture and I sure wouldn't want to pay the heat and a/c bills. People love to comment on the crap new construction in this city. This building takes the cake as best as I can tell. Other than that, I have no idea when people will begin moving in. Every milestone date that they give at the construction committee meetings is basically never kept. They're time frame seems to be "when ever we feel like it."
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I pass this building every day on my way to work and can not figure out why anyone would want to live there. The location stinks for the prices they are charging since Montgomery Street is not a very desirable street in the area. I was surprised when the faux brick was put up instead of real brick.
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I hear faux brick is mandatory in much of the new construction in JC to maintain the architectural integrity of the many neighborhoods where the pink brick influence flourishes---bricktorian style.
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I hope you aren't serious. The Goldman Sachs building isn't brick. 101 Hudson isn't brick. Evertrust isn't brick. Most of Newport's buildings aren't brick. And...I don't believe Mongomery-Greene is within the Historic District (although I could be wrong on that). Even if the city did require a brick facade, they don't require faux brick. Harborside's newest buildings were built with brick panels, but I believe they are actually brick and not a thin tile veneer glued onto a very thin substrate with very little insulation. Don't get me wrong, I work in Plaza 5 and I hate the building (you should hear it creak in the wind). I just think that for a residential building (especially condos) it is very poorly constructed and isn't worth anywhere near what people payed for it. Just my 2 cents.
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Time equities is one of the developers. That pretty much says it all.
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No, PHRes, I am not serious at all. I am just commenting on the abundance of this faux brick material in JC and the relative ease and alacrity of construction from start to completion.
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I am not to sure this fake brick is anything different then the crap Hovnanian and Pulte put up. Along with the Pier House. Those seem to be going for high prices as well.
At least this building is a heck of alot better than the projects on the other side of montgomery.
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yeah, because that's the standard I hope to achieve when dropping more than half a mil on a condo in Jersey City, the "heck of a lot better than the projects" standard. NNJR, is that you?
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At least three of the original pre-construction buyers are trying to sell their units. Asking for an east-facing 1250sqft 2br/2ba is $799,900. Any takers?
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Just think how close you'll be the the Flamingo Diner, for the low-low price of $800K!
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You see what you get in NYC for half a mill, you are okay with fake brick at times. Just depends on preference. Seriously though if you want to complain about shoddy construction look at the Pier House. It is basically all wood frame and the residents would continually complain they could here all the load partying at the Sand Bar on weekends. 1 bedrooms are now going for 500k there. LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.
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anyone have a link to it?
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i watched this building go up every day on the way home, dont know what date they gave the buyers but thought they made good progress? its' almost done.
And in term of construction, seems to be solid with concrete frame and high ceilings etc. Dont understand why all the complains, looks like a well built highrise. if you think this is crappy construction, you seriously need to walk around jc more.... anyway price is another story altogeher, you are basically paying to live next to the waterfront financial district which will continue to grow, maybe it will worth what they are asking in a few years? who knows....
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Not to nitpick but, if it's "worth what they're asking in a few years" wouldn't that mean the value of the investment stays flat?
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yes of course, the RE market in jc has been flat since mid last year. You might as well put the money under the mattress instead of buying this as investment property right now. but it's a good place to live if you happen to work by the waterfront and just want to become a home owner. anyone know the maintaince fee, property tax and whether there are abatement or not?
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Whatever happened to this building? I drove pass the other evening and people are still not living there.
Has it gone bankrupt because of all the luxury buildings which are in better locations and offer more amenities - in addition to the fact it's so late that buyers are walking away (with their deposits - I hope)? Plus I read that Lisbon's and the South rear carpark are to be developed into a huge 66 unit condo.
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According to that other site people started moving in last week.
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I see a guy manning the desk in the lobby everyday when I walk by. For his sake I hope someone is living there.
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Please review my experience with Montgomery Greene as you evaluate an investment in the building...
www.mgproblems.com
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Montgomery Greene, you've been livin' hell to me
You've screwed me since August 13 I've seen 'em come and go and I've seen them die And long ago I stopped askin' why Montgomery Greene, I hate every inch of you. You've cut me and have scarred me through and through. And I'll walk out a wiser weaker man; Mr Ciesmelewski why can't you understand. Montgomery Greene, what good do you think you do? Do you think I'll be different when you're through? You bent my heart and mind and you may my soul, And your drywall turns my blood a little cold. Montgomery Greene, may you rot and burn in hell. May your walls fall and may I live to tell. May all the world forget you ever stood. And may all the world regret you did no good. Montgomery Greene, you've been livin' hell to me.
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your photos of the damage don't look bad at all. you interested in selling?
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If you are not happy can't you just invoke your warranty?
http://www.state.nj.us/dca/codes/newhome_warranty/warplans.shtml I don't know how it works but your attorney should be able to help you through the process.
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To respond to the questions.
(1) The damage was characterized as a 'Total Loss' by the insurance company. ALthough the pictures may not do justice, the ceilings, walls floors were all damaged. I will sell you the condo without personal warranty for $635,000. Let me know. (2) This really isn't a home warranty claim, but a claim against the Condo Association for failure of a common element of the building, the 6th floor roof drainage system.
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Wow. Joe, I feel so bad for you. No one should have to go through that situation, and it must have been even worse since it was 2 days after you closed.
If it was a "total loss", will your unit insurance or the condo master insurance cover the loss?
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635,000? umm its a total lose. I'll give you 29,900. so let me guess... 2 days after closing? didn't even have time to get home owners insurance? nightmare. i have some advil if you want. free.
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the other fun thing about the montgomery greene is that the southern and western facing windows are pretty much illegal since you cant make windows facing out on another lot. If another building in 5-10 years were built adjacent to the mont. greene and was an equal sized or larger building, it would cover every window on the southern and/or western side, detroying all those views and depreciating the apts values tremendously. As an architect, I know that we arent allowed to build anything like that and I wonder infact how it got approved.
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joe, that really sucks. How could something like this happen to a new construction! the building looked nice from the outside, noone would have guessed all those problems, thanks for the heads up.
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Unless you pay all cash for the condo, the lending bank won't let you close without homeowner's insurance, Einstein.
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If the windows are indented from the surface of the building, so that there is allowable minimum space between the buildings, it may be legal.
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It is. As, apparently, is the reverse- building in slack space setback from the existing structure's windows. Which is why I now have what looks like a garbage chute outside my bathroom window. 
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thats true murican, its legal if indented, but it doesnt seem that at least the western facing windows are by much, and nevertheless, it would suck to face another brick wall whether it be legal or not. 
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my bank didn't require it. i lived for a year before i realized i didn't have it. so piss off shit for brains.
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nope, not being a douche at all. during negotiations it normal that one party start high the other party starts low. somewhere in between an agreement is reached.
so keep your vinegar and water comments to yourself. Quote:
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suuuuure it didn't. and even pretending that it didn't, the person who allegedly "lived for a year" before they realized they didn't have homeowners' insurance is calling somebody else 'shit for brains'? that's pretty funny.
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They said the building insurance was good enough for them. what can i tell you. its the truth. concidering my place didn't require any benifits of insurance that year... i saved money and nothing happened. worked out well in the end.
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He's right. If you live in a condo/townhouse (not sure about co-ops), you don't have to get homeowners insurance. They suggest but not require something that's kind of equivalent to renter's equipment. It covers the contents of the unit. Any problems with the mechanicals should be covered under the building.
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Yeah, sure. The bank lent you money, you little shit, without requiring insurance to cover their ass in case your (their) condo burns down or gets flooded or collapses. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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YAWN. Have a read of nikkiinnj response.
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The point is, that the walls, floors, kitchen, windows, the whole structure (but not the contents) MUST BE INSURED in order to get a loan - the building insurance covers that. Lender requires a proof of that. You don't have to have homeowner's insurance covering your personal shit - but the condo itself must be insured to close. You are REALLY dense.
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YAWN
go back to that other website where your dribble is useful.
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