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It means more people will be riding the PATH which is ridiculous.

no, that's not at all what it means. Remember the ferries? but I guess if you want more cars on the road and fewer people taking public transportation...

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Thanks for the clarification/confirmation!

While this is a "solution", it is still quite easy to game the system: for someone wanting to ride the ferry into lower Manhattan, it would be cheaper to walk into the Exchange Place station, pay the PATH fare, grab a transfer ticket, and then walk right out. I wonder if they have thought of that.

The transfer ticket is for a round trip (2 tear-off portions) so if you are just going to Exchange Place and walking, you don't even need to pay a return PATH fare. (For me, the trade-off is a longer walk on both ends.)

Snyder said none of the approximate 300 passengers on board the train were injured in the accident.

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This file is from 2005 where they anticipated the the signal upgrades would be completed 2010-2015.

33rd st signal upgrade completed last year, has the service times increased since?

Not sure when the WTC upgrade will be completed...

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...but the Flag of Mississippi should be replaced with some other version - also a few other states are questionable.

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3. Conductors should not be a thing, autopilot in subways. Unless there's a conductors union or something, why is it still a thing? Like there's a guy (or gal) pushing and pulling an actual lever? And when he falls asleep, has a stroke/heart attack, is paid off by Christie/ISIS, or is updating his facebook status, he doesn't push/pull the thingie and people die? Forreals? What is it, like the elevator operator's union? Cheez.

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There was a long line at WTC just to get a stupid voucher to get on the shuttle bus. I had to get to work and life is too short. I just sucked it up and paid the $2.75 subway fare to get to Midtown. Get over it. I think most people will simply come to the conclusion that it's far less painful to cough up the subway fare. It's not like you're being forced to do this on weekdays. The shitty part isn't having to pay the extra fare, but figuring out which subway lines are operating on weekends because the MTA also has a boatload of service disruptions.

There are few phrases in the English language more obnoxious than "get over it."

And I can't believe anyone would let a $2.75 subway fare ruin their weekend plans and then complain about it. Buses, even in the best of circumstances, will always be far slower than subways and carry far fewer people. Seriously, did people actually think these magic buses would actually be a sufficient substitute for the speed and efficiency of underground transport? My doctor's offices are around 1st Ave., and I've noticed I can usually WALK faster than the crosstown bus.

Well, maybe some people paying $2.75 each way ($5.50 per day) cuts into their budget. It may seem like chump change to you, but for others...not so much.

It's not every day. It's two days out of the week - so $11. I have a lot of sympathy if it's someone making minimum wage having to get to/from work. But let's face it, that's probably not the demographic that's kvetching on JC List. The JC List demographic is one that is preoccupied with the type of bar that opens up downtown or the design of a parking deck at Whole Foods. Chances are they were going into Manhattan to play and if you have the means to spend leisure time/dollars in Manhattan, $5.50 round trip is nothing. It won't even buy a cocktail.

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There was a long line at WTC just to get a stupid voucher to get on the shuttle bus. I had to get to work and life is too short. I just sucked it up and paid the $2.75 subway fare to get to Midtown. Get over it. I think most people will simply come to the conclusion that it's far less painful to cough up the subway fare. It's not like you're being forced to do this on weekdays. The shitty part isn't having to pay the extra fare, but figuring out which subway lines are operating on weekends because the MTA also has a boatload of service disruptions.

There are few phrases in the English language more obnoxious than "get over it."

And I can't believe anyone would let a $2.75 subway fare ruin their weekend plans and then complain about it. Buses, even in the best of circumstances, will always be far slower than subways and carry far fewer people. Seriously, did people actually think these magic buses would actually be a sufficient substitute for the speed and efficiency of underground transport? My doctor's offices are around 1st Ave., and I've noticed I can usually WALK faster than the crosstown bus.

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PATH has a no food and drink policy, but a few garbage cans on the platforms would help.

Huh?
http://www.panynj.gov/path/pdf/PATH-Rules-Regulations-12-20-15.pdf

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No person shall eat any food or drink any beverage on the station platforms of
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Enjoy the reval.

PATH also has a policy of no bikes in the first or last car, too. That's never enforced as well. See, these policies mean nothing because the PATH people are too lazy to enforce anything.

Well, what do you want starbucks to do about it. Take your lazy ass off JCList and write Port Authority, where they promptly will take your letter to use next time they wipe their asses before flushing it down the drain clogging Jersey City's sewer system. It's the New Jersey way to be shitted on by the PA.

BTW, I've never seen bikes in PATH cars. Let alone the first or last one. You must ride it more than me.

JCGUYs you gotta deal with your anger problem.

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PATH has a no food and drink policy, but a few garbage cans on the platforms would help.

Huh?
http://www.panynj.gov/path/pdf/PATH-Rules-Regulations-12-20-15.pdf

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No person shall eat any food or drink any beverage on the station platforms of
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PATH has a no food and drink policy, but a few garbage cans on the platforms would help.

Huh?
http://www.panynj.gov/path/pdf/PATH-Rules-Regulations-12-20-15.pdf

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no, and it never will

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PATH Train Benny sighting today at 4pm on a 33rd line train just before Christopher Street. He did his normal spiel. He even quoted an address in hopes of legitimacy for the nonexistent Bergen-Lafayette Coalition to Feed the Homeless. It was 87 Fleet street or something. No in the car gave anything. He's looking in very rough shape these days. Don't do drugs, kids.

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This doesn't sound good (as of 12:53 am - 10/3/2015)

Due to a track condition, PATH is operating 33rd-Hob, Nwk-Jsq and Wtc-Ex. Place only. NJT will cross honor PATH passengners.

I got to WTC at about 11.30pm last night only to be told all PATH service was "closed". Not suspended, or suffering delays, but closed. I asked the clueless guy whether 33rd-JSQ was running and of course he had no idea. Took the A train to PABT, waited an hour and then, without been told whether trains were operating or not, got on a JSQ train which terminated at Hoboken. So I walked down the Hudson walkway in the pouring rain to get back to home.

Even by PATH's pathetic weekend late night standards, last night was astoundingly frustrating. When a guy tells you to go to Penn Station and get NJ Transit to Secaucus, how exactly does that help anyone who lives in JC or Hoboken?

We spend a lot of time on this thread comparing PATH to the MTA, but the fact is there are a half dozen lines to take you into Brookly, Queens or the Bronx if one closes. Last night there was no ferry, bus or train option to get home. If we want to talk about why JC real estate is not approaching the same prices as Brooklyn Heights, its not the Jersey stigma, it is the risk of been stranded late at night.

There were plenty of yellow cab vultures lurking outide WTC, however, happily offering to take people home for $60.

Apologies for raging. Rant over.

You had a better night than this guy.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... _c.html#incart_river_home

A man was found dead on the PATH tracks late last night in Jersey City, authorities said this morning.

The man was found just west of the Grove Street PATH station just after 11 p.m. last night, Port Authority police spokesman Joe Pentangelo said. It could not be confirmed if he was struck or how he died.

The PATH system was completely shut down at 11:15 p.m. and at 12:08 a.m. PATH resumed service from Hoboken to 33rd Street and between Journal Square and Newark.

Service was restored at 5:05 am. Pentangelo said the man's death is under investigation.

Guess that's the cause of the system shutdown.

The lack of communication sucks, but I do understand why it had to happen. Whenever a death happens, they close the whole area down for a long time.

This episode does illustrate that one glaring weakness for the DTJC real estate market is that if the PATH is shut down for whatever reason, you are completely fucked going to/from NYC. There is no alternative once the ferries close, which is rather early.

It is also why I think the massive new construction (I believe over 30,000 units, or approximately 60,000 people in JSQ and Grove) will completely overwhelm the already overcrowded PATH. Because it won't just affect late nights, you will have a very hard time getting on the trains at all unless you live in JSQ. I think this will serve to severely limit the DTJC real estate market unless there is some kind of solution.

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This doesn't sound good (as of 12:53 am - 10/3/2015)

Due to a track condition, PATH is operating 33rd-Hob, Nwk-Jsq and Wtc-Ex. Place only. NJT will cross honor PATH passengners.

I got to WTC at about 11.30pm last night only to be told all PATH service was "closed". Not suspended, or suffering delays, but closed. I asked the clueless guy whether 33rd-JSQ was running and of course he had no idea. Took the A train to PABT, waited an hour and then, without been told whether trains were operating or not, got on a JSQ train which terminated at Hoboken. So I walked down the Hudson walkway in the pouring rain to get back to home.

Even by PATH's pathetic weekend late night standards, last night was astoundingly frustrating. When a guy tells you to go to Penn Station and get NJ Transit to Secaucus, how exactly does that help anyone who lives in JC or Hoboken?

We spend a lot of time on this thread comparing PATH to the MTA, but the fact is there are a half dozen lines to take you into Brookly, Queens or the Bronx if one closes. Last night there was no ferry, bus or train option to get home. If we want to talk about why JC real estate is not approaching the same prices as Brooklyn Heights, its not the Jersey stigma, it is the risk of been stranded late at night.

There were plenty of yellow cab vultures lurking outide WTC, however, happily offering to take people home for $60.

Apologies for raging. Rant over.