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Re: Chic Pea
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Op sounds like a stalker, creepy.

I would like to make a formal request to the webmaster of JClist to delete this thread and to BAN the stalker.

Posted on: 2016/2/22 16:20
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Should PATH add Marion Station?
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Marion Station? What say JClist. I think there may be merit, but I'm not so sure about the skipping of stations. I had the biggest laugh of the weekend when I heard the suggestion of having the Journal Square train bypass Grove and go directly to Newport. LoL!!


Posted on: 2016/2/22 5:07
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Re: Bob Cotter Retiring - City Seeks New Planner (Job Listing Link)
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The KRE has all sort of perks from city hall, McLaughlin does not. The fact their building is next to the funeral home is outrageous. It does not allow the owner to do maintenance on their building. I heard from a source, KRE dropped a heavy piece of equipment on McLaughlin's roof. Tall buildings should have set back and open space. I find the building ugly not up to the modern standards. It looks like a heavy wind will tear off the white laminate pasted on the exterior of the building. Journal Square has no open space so new construction should provide this. If you are receiving redevelopment loans, 30 year tax abatement and the closest space to the PATH, give something back to the community.


They are giving back to the community: KRE is providing the much needed jump start to the revitalization of Journal Square along with new retail opportunities that will employ hundreds and homes for a couple thousand people. There is also a park planned behind the buildings for area residents. I know we're not going to see eye to eye on this but that Journal Square development is a godsend. You above all people know what this city was like years ago when no one wanted to live here. Is Journal Square better off today in 2016 than it was in the 70s and 80s?

Posted on: 2016/2/22 4:54
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Re: Bob Cotter Retiring - City Seeks New Planner (Job Listing Link)
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He will be missed. I really hope the city decides to promote from within. Someone that understands where Jersey City has been and a vision for its future.

Yvonne's critique of Newport is a little unfair. It's hard to require good buildings design back in the day when the waterfront was an industrial wasteland and no one wanted to live here. Having said thay, I kind of agree it's an unfortunate mess. Lesson learned.

The funeral home should have sold. It's so out of place sandwiched between a regional transportation hub and a 50 storey tower. It would be nice if the city could buy it to create a park/pathway from the backend of Journal Square to Pavonia. Overall, I'm very satisfied how Journal Square's revitalization is turning out. WTG Bob Cotter!!


Wait, someone's family business and you are saying it should have been sold! How arrogant! Many people have used McLaughlin due to its confidence. I also do not agree with you about the parking garages, many people spoke up during the designs, but the city allowed this to happened. Luckily, Cucci who was councilman during the time reduced Newport from 2nd Street to 6th Street. The design does not blend with the rest of the city. Still, you have not addressed my issue of buildings with no setbacks and open space. We have allowed developers to get away with many things and push their designs without proper givebacks. I still remember LeFrak pushing his designs and promising a Central Park with his development. I am still waiting for Central Park to come on board.


It's their right to stay, but personally the area has changed vastly, and they would have been better off selling to the developers of Journal Square and relocating elsewhere. This opinion insults you Yvonne?

Thanks for the history on Newport. Again, hindsight is 20/20. As for setbacks, what types of setbacks are you talking about? If you mean how buildings rise all the way to the top without any setbacks, I agree the city should do more. Have you voiced this opinion on any of the public meetings? It would be nice to see some "wedding cake" buildings like in NYC.

Posted on: 2016/2/22 3:39
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Re: Bob Cotter Retiring - City Seeks New Planner (Job Listing Link)
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Cotter utterly failed in planning parks for developing neighborhoods. Newport just made their 1st, 4 acres. That's to serve 15k residents. National standards call for a minimum of 1 acre per 1000 residents of "neighborhood park". The rest Downtown and of the city is no better, but it was not built from scratch under his watch. It's still going on in LHN and with the high rise housing going up in the Taint with no park for the families of these large apartments.

https://www.planning.org/pas/at60/report194.htm

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National Standards for Suburban, USA but it's a joke for a city. I wonder how NYC, Chicago, Philly and other great cities stacks up against this "national standard?" Lol

Posted on: 2016/2/22 3:31
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Re: Chic Pea
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Pretty sure she's always been small potatoes, but you and others seem to have a bizarre fascination/obsession with her.


+1 Almost as if they run a rival blog and are green with envy. Now fuck off, HP.

Posted on: 2016/2/22 1:00
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Re: Bob Cotter Retiring - City Seeks New Planner (Job Listing Link)
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He will be missed. I really hope the city decides to promote from within. Someone that understands where Jersey City has been and a vision for its future.

Yvonne's critique of Newport is a little unfair. It's hard to require good buildings design back in the day when the waterfront was an industrial wasteland and no one wanted to live here. Having said thay, I kind of agree it's an unfortunate mess. Lesson learned.

The funeral home should have sold. It's so out of place sandwiched between a regional transportation hub and a 50 storey tower. It would be nice if the city could buy it to create a park/pathway from the backend of Journal Square to Pavonia. Overall, I'm very satisfied how Journal Square's revitalization is turning out. WTG Bob Cotter!!

Posted on: 2016/2/22 0:58
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Re: possible earthquake tremors last night @ 12:30AM
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anyone else feel their house shaking last night around 12:30am?? We felt it just west of VVP and are trying to figure it out...


Nope.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/

Posted on: 2016/2/21 16:37
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Re: Fulop Record
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This is obviously the work of someone from South Jersey.

Posted on: 2016/2/21 4:13
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Re: Kennedy Blvd. Any chance for light rail since buses are packed?
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Turns out the approved Journal Square 2060 plan already calls for a streetcar on JFK/Bergen Ave and BRT on Sip Avenue.

Obviously unfunded still but I wonder what other documents the city has on the issue.


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The Plan envisions a narrow-gauge streetcar line that runs in a dedicated right-of-way
along Kennedy Boulevard, Journal Square and Bergen A venue. This streetcar system is a
criticai north/south component of a comprehensive transit network designed to service
Journal Square and surounding neighborhoods. A streetcar system wil ensure that new
and existing developments along Kennedy Boulevard and Bergen A venue have
convenient access to the Journal Square Transportation Center and proposed extensions
of the Hudson Bergen Light Rail in the Bergen Arches. The Redevelopment Plan
recommends that a streetcar run from the intersection of John F. Kennedy Boulevard and
Route 139 to Bergen Avenue at McGinley Square (see Map 6). During the development
of a streetcar system, a dedicated bus lane should be implemented along the streetcar
right-of-way. All stops should be permanent and substantial in nature. A transitional bus
along the streetcar route can help establish a riding habit among Journal Square residents
and encourage transit appropriate development along the eventual streetcar corridor. The
streetcar may be extended in the future to service additional neighborhoods as part of a
comprehensive bus rapid transit system for Jersey City.

Posted on: 2016/2/20 22:00
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Re: New bar coming to JSQ Plaza
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Sweet!! Thanks.

It's definitely needed and will probably be very busy. Journal Square Pub is gonna have to up its game. ;)

Posted on: 2016/2/20 21:56
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New bar coming to JSQ Plaza
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There is a new bar under construction at Kennedy and Pavonia in the Port Authority building. Anyone have any info??

Posted on: 2016/2/20 19:14
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Re: Central Avenue redevelopment plan
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Do you care about the Central Avenue shopping district? Come to discuss what you love, what's missing, and how to make Central Avenue serve its community to the best of its ability. Facilitated by Positivity Strategist Robyn Stratton-Berkessel.

Date: Saturday Feb. 20, 2016 from 2:00 PM to 7:00 PM

Where: PS 8 - 96 Franklin St., Jersey City

Register Now for this FREE Workshop.


Are you guys sure you really want me there? You already know my tenets: Increase the density. Encourage mixed-uses. Protect existing residents from being gentrified out.

I've read the draft plan and it looks really good. Nice job CASID.

Posted on: 2016/2/19 20:13
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Re: Kennedy Blvd. Any chance for light rail since buses are packed?
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Some type of bus rapid transit is probably a much better idea anyway. More flexible, cheaper, easier to set up, typically incurs less local opposition.



Well, any chance for bus rapid transit then?




A feasibility study was done examining best routes for Bus Rapid Transit from Bayonne/Greenville to Journal Square. The results found Kennedy Blvd to be the most appropriate thoroughfare for BRT. Not sure what the current status of this project is, but I'm sure it could use further support.

http://www.njtpa.org/planning/subregi ... -boulevard-brt-study.aspx

https://www.facebook.com/Bayonne-Jersey-City-BRT-273211032777631/


Thanks for this!!! If light rail is impossible for one reason or another, BRT is the next best thing.

Posted on: 2016/2/19 16:08
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Re: Kennedy Blvd. Any chance for light rail since buses are packed?
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A hundred years ago streetcar companies were privately owned, turned a profit, and were able to expand and flourish without local or federal tax dollars. It kind of makes you wonder what changed that you can't build a one stop extension without it costing over a billion dollars.

I'm a practical guy when it comes to cost. The Jitney's are profitable. Maybe we should just create JOLs (Jitney Only Lanes) and let them solve our transportation needs.

Seriously, traffic is going to really suck 30 years from now when Journal Square is built out with skyscrapers at heights rivaling those found in Manhattan if no new transit investments are undertaken today.

Isn't this at least one thing we can all agree on?

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Building rail is just so damn expensive (over a billion $ to extend the PATH to EWR!) I don't think it will happen anytime in the near future. I think government on the local level to the federal level is going to hit the wall debt wise in the next few years. There won't be the funds available.

Going into magical thinking mode that the money exists:

There is an abandoned right of way that could extend the light rail to JSQ, or to the Bergen Arches. Possible idea? Allow R-4 development over the Bergen Arches with the stipulation the developers build stations below the building and pay for the rail extension?

The only way I can see extending the rail up Central or Summit ave would be a subway or a skytrain. In another similar thread I did post a pic of the elevated trolley line that extended above the southern part of Central Ave until 1949.

You cold build an elevated line that works it way up to Union City, then follows Paterson Plank Road down to the rail lines that run next to 1&9. You could tie into the existing system from there.

If you have infinite money, there are a lot of possibilities.

Posted on: 2016/2/19 15:59
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Re: Kennedy Blvd. Any chance for light rail since buses are packed?
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nope. Not nearly enough density.


I don't know about this. Jersey City is very high density when compared to most other US cities. There are many cities getting federal grants for streetcars with densities that are far less, like Kansas City!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KC_Streetcar

Kansas City density: ~1,400 people per square mile
Jersey City density: ~16,700 per square mile

(I was gonna post the density of the zip codes intersecting Kennedy Blvd in Jersey City (07307, 07306, 07304, 07305) with those of Kansas City but why bother, they're all beat by at least tenfold.)

Journal Square is set to become a mini Manhattan once it's fully built out.





This is super misleading. The JC density is what it is because of places like downtown, newport, and the Journal Square area skewing the numbers. The density along Kennedy Blvd., both heading toward Bayonne and heading north to North Bergen, drops off significantly. Does JSQ have the density for Light Rail? Sure, but the corridor itself does not have the density. You have to remember that even where HBLRT goes through less-dense Edgewater its purpose is/was to spur development on the then largely undeveloped waterfront. Kennedy Blvd through the heights is never intended to be developed that way, it is intended to stay low rise, low density, and without that user base, HBLRT will NOT provide the infrastructure. HBLRT isn't even ready to cooperate with the ass-end of downtown (by Cast Iron lofts). My negative opinion of CIL aside, that would merit a rail stop much more than JFK.

I think the suggestion that BRT be considered is a good one.


We're going to have to agree to disagree. There are areas in the country getting light rail on corridors with far less density than JFK. Look it up.

A light rail could replace all or a portion of the bus routes for the 10, 60, 82, 83, 85, 88, and 125. It would also capture some riders from the 4, 6, 22, 81, 84, 86, 122, and the Jitneys. I'm not opposed to a BRT, either, as it can quickly zoom from the Port Authority down to Journal Square and Bayonne. As long as it's a true BRT with its own dedicated lanes.

I'm not in favor of selling us short saying there is not high enough density for a LRT when there are systems being built all across the country with far less density and are half empty. Excluding Downtown and Journal Square, Jersey City is still a very dense city.

Further reading on the topic:
http://www.its.berkeley.edu/sites/def ... WP/UCB-ITS-VWP-2011-6.pdf

The analysis concludes that around 30 persons per gross acre around stations is needed to support light rail. That's right in line with Jersey City's Kennedy Corridor.

Posted on: 2016/2/19 15:23
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Re: Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer
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Fuck the bike thing. It was just one example.

Posted on: 2016/2/19 1:11
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Re: Kennedy Blvd. Any chance for light rail since buses are packed?
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jc_dweller wrote:
nope. Not nearly enough density.


I don't know about this. Jersey City is very high density when compared to most other US cities. There are many cities getting federal grants for streetcars with densities that are far less, like Kansas City!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KC_Streetcar

Kansas City density: ~1,400 people per square mile
Jersey City density: ~16,700 per square mile

(I was gonna post the density of the zip codes intersecting Kennedy Blvd in Jersey City (07307, 07306, 07304, 07305) with those of Kansas City but why bother, they're all beat by at least tenfold.)

Journal Square is set to become a mini Manhattan once it's fully built out.






Posted on: 2016/2/19 0:20
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Re: Kennedy Blvd. Any chance for light rail since buses are packed?
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Dolomiti wrote:
Some type of bus rapid transit is probably a much better idea anyway. More flexible, cheaper, easier to set up, typically incurs less local opposition.



Well, any chance for bus rapid transit then?

Posted on: 2016/2/19 0:10
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Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer
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I would be interested to hear opinions on the Zimmer administration and general governance in Hoboken. Got any?

Hoboken recently voted to reject bike lanes while Jersey City is adding 15 more Citibike stations. There is big contrast between the two cities.

Posted on: 2016/2/19 0:10
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Kennedy Blvd. Any chance for light rail since buses are packed?
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The Hudson Bergen Light Rail line was originally planned to run on Kennedy Blvd but was moved to the waterfront to spur development potential. But Kennedy has seen it's share of development too and the existing bus network is packed. The answer is no, but is there any long term plans to bring light rail to JFK within our life times? I feel there is enough riders currently to justify the investment.

Posted on: 2016/2/18 22:13
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Re: Chase branch closing in Old Colony Mall
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Is there anyone that can be contacted to put pressure on the owners of that lot to come to a redevelopment plan or sell to someone who will? I know there was this proposal from a few years ago, which ended up never coming to light for whatever reason: http://jerseydigs.com/one-bates-street/

The plaza is mostly abandoned stores at this point and a hangout for homeless. The only stuff left is a bodega, a Rent-A-Center and a Popeye's. A serious look should be taken at having some of the old street grid restored and having the whole area razed and redeveloped, like they're doing for the BJ's/StopRite plaza.


Even if each of the stores in this strip mall were rented out and thriving, the fact that it's 80% surface parking is a colossal waste of space in a dense urban neighborhood. There is no chance it lasts as is for another decade. We'll see something proposed for this, my guess would be in the next couple of years.


Jersey City has dozens of redevelopment plans. Maybe it's time for one more for this site to encourage redevelopment? Mayor Fulop, are you listening?

Posted on: 2016/2/18 2:46
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Re: Chase branch closing in Old Colony Mall
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Entirely possible leases are not being renewed for a redevelopment.

Posted on: 2016/2/17 15:37
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Re: Jersey City mayor-elect orders end to citywide reval
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I like Fulop, but he owns this mess. Bring it on indeed!

Posted on: 2016/2/16 21:09
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Re: Proposed Development at 8th Street/Division
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There is a known history of chromium contamination in that neighborhood:

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dsr/chromium/map.htm

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Thanks for this map! I don't understand the logic of the [obvious NIMBY] on this one. There are many existing residences near this contaminated site. The real estate market is healthy enough that a private developer is willing to do the costly soil remediation, as is required by NJ DEP and EPA, and develop the site. Rather than be thankful that existing residents no longer have to live next to this contaminated site, [obvious NIMBY] poorly tries to obscure his NIMBYism around a thinly veiled concern for the environment and future residents.

[obvious NIMBY] appears oblivious to the concept of soil remediation and the fact that much of downtown was once contaminated due to Jersey City's industrial past. (Now, wouldn't be ironic if [obvious NIMBY]'s home or office was located on lands once contaminated?). [obvious NIMBY] then goes on a misguided rant and attempts to justify his illogical statements by showing a deep concern for future homeowners and tenants by asking about what types disclosures they will get and declaring his intention not to live there. [obvious NIMBY] then suggest shady dealings and tries to frighten people by mentioning Flint and Michigan DEP. Booo!

I don't plan to live here nor would want to because the location next to I-78 is less than ideal. Yet, as an area resident, I would be extremely thankful that one less contaminated site will be remediated and developed. As a taxpayer, I'm also thankful that private, not public, funds are used in the environmental cleanup.

I'm thankful there are enough sane residents, planning staff, and city councilpersons in Jersey City to sniff out obvious NIMBYism and support high quality development for our city. I would have more respect if [obvious NIMBY] just flatly came out and stated he is against this development because it would make parking worse for the area or that he doesn't want more millennials/minorities moving into the neighborhood.

Posted on: 2016/2/16 20:19
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Re: Proposed Development at 8th Street/Division
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Are you advocating the lands remained unremediated and undeveloped? Strange. Much of Jersey City has an industrial past. Soil remediation to clean up contaminated lands is not a new concept. How much of Newport and downtown was once contaminated.

NIMBYs trying to hide their opposition to development behind illiogical environmental concerns. Nothing new

Posted on: 2016/2/16 10:33
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Re: Proposed Development at 8th Street/Division
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It's great these contaminated sites are being developed. DEP regulation require the soil to be remediated prior to residential development. Had it not been for the strength of our realty market, these sites may have remained contaminated for a very long time because there is no public funds for cleaning up, especially on private lands.

Posted on: 2016/2/15 23:17
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Re: 365 Market by Whole Foods
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Whole Foods is rolling out a new supermarket aimed at younger/millennial demographic in urban areas. It will be a smaller/cheaper version of Whole Foods Market with pop up shops included in the market to display local businesses, etc.

REQUEST BY ALL: If this is something you think would be beneficial to the Downtown Jersey City community, I ask that you simply visit their website and request a location to be built in our neighborhood.

They have a specific request box just for this. Its very easy, 2 minutes. Please jump on their site and lets get a 365 in our hood!

http://www.365bywfm.com/stores


Downtown!? Bring this to the heights and Journal Square, too!

Posted on: 2016/2/12 19:23
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Re: Ignore button - hide all posts from a particular user
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I have a problem with this thread: http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewt ... c_id=35539&post_id=396853

Why isn't anything being done?? Far less offensive than sullyx.

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YES two posts were removed including this one from sullyx:
aww poor little bitch vigilante, did you get tossed off for being a racist asshole

If it bothers you that this was removed then this is NOT the website for you.

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Ironically, I think this thread has just been censored. Did anyone else notice a couple posts missing? Maybe just my imagination.

Posted on: 2016/2/12 19:20
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Re: The gentrification of ward A & F... The newbies vs the old timers.
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This thread sucks. Why doesn't the moderator moderate it if we're not going to get an ignore button?

Posted on: 2016/2/11 22:43
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