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Pebbles,
There was no need for me to post links supporting my comments because I used the CNN link you posted to take apart the most common liberal talking point that tries to equivocate organized Christian violence with organized Muslim violence. It was you that quoted the CNN headline ?300 acts of violence against PP Offices? and you attached a link to a foolish 12/2015 CNN analysis of a 2010 report that analyzed 300 acts of violence against PP Offices from 1973-2003. Then you added the smarmy little IMO about acid attacks. You provided the framework to my response by lazily quoting a CNN headline without even reading the CNN analysis of a 6-year-old report on Violence against PPO offices / staff. Pinned down by my point below, you used the next favorite moonbat debating tactic, when the facts do not fit your narrative, change the narrative. Ignoring my question below, you expanded the scope of your Christians-do-it-too premise to include other types of anti-social behavior by the Klan, gay bashers etc as Christian sponsored. And what are your sources linking these things to main stream Christians? The irony is that if one accepts your definition of anti-Muslim bigotry, you are guilty of the same religious bigotry against Christians by things you say and attribute to Christians. Don?t you feel any guilt smearing innocent Christians? Why would you say such horrible things? I understand that you need to drag one religion down in order to promote another so you can win a debating point. There is no national Christian movement promoting violence against Muslims or anyone else. On the other hand, many are bending over backwards to accommodate immigrant Muslims. Wanting to defend your country and your fellow citizens from radical jihadism is not a bigotry and speaking out against allowing these killers into the country is still not a crime, at least not yet. TheBigGuy wrote: The 2010 report indicated that in the US over a 30 year span, a total of 6 people were murdered with 4 attempted charges. So, how do those numbers compare against Muslim atrocities committed within the USA during the same time period? Let?s start with the (2) obvious attacks on the WTC where thousands died? Pebbles wrote: This is a rather interesting false equivalence that you want to propose. You limit Christian attacks to one type of location and one type of motive, Planned Parenthood and anti-Abortion. You choose to include attacks by Al Qaeda along with ISIS and atrocities performed by thug governments run by people that happen to be Muslim. What if we opened up all Christian attacks? for instance every Klan murder. You also have the assaulting of gay people for being gay. How about the rampant attacks on Muslims (and non-Muslims that just looked brown enough) after 9/11 occurred? I have neighbors that have been assaulted in the last week for simply being Muslim.
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Pebbles...
I am challenging your faulty logic that equalizes organized Muslim violence against your perception of organized Christian attacks on Planned Parenthood offices. Is it possible that the recent Denver PP Office attack could be carried by an agnostic/atheist who finds scavenging for baby parts morally offensive to his personal value system? So far authorities have not linked that killer to any Christian organization. Then offering the link to 12/01/15 CNN news analysis of a 2010 report about PP Office violence between 1973 and 2003 to support your premise was priceless. Can?t CNN find any Rand Report more current that supports their anti-Christian / pro gun control bias? The CNN news anchors tried to attribute the initial shooting reports in San Bernardino as an attack on a PP Office blocks away from the actual shooting address. They looked pretty sad when they were corrected by the local reporter. The 2010 report indicated that in the US over a 30 year span, a total of 6 people were murdered with 4 attempted charges. So, how do those numbers compare against Muslim atrocities committed within the USA during the same time period? Let?s start with the (2) obvious attacks on the WTC where thousands died? And as for the ?barbaric? Christian acid attacks you cited from the report? The report clearly says the damage was against private property ($$ reported) and not people. I suppose it would be bigoted of me to highlight a current trend in ?traditional? Muslim honor killings for men to use acid to disfigure Muslim women and female children. I pose your question back, what is more barbaric disfiguring PP private property or your child?s face because they are embracing our western values? As to current FBI statistics you mention, I have no faith that they can honestly assess evidence in these jihadi crimes without redefining extremist violence as workplace violence to protect the failed Obama Open Borders Policy that you foolishly embrace. Your denial of Muslim terror and its true threat to American citizens, now from inside the US, is just stunning. Quote:
Having been inside of a Planned Parenthood, they make their living on contraceptives. They provide services and testing for STDs. They are the answer for those that need a low cost option when they cannot afford a doctor. I don?t know what you believe ?a person like me? is. However, your argument about selling ?baby parts? is based on a falsehood. I don?t know what baby parts you believe they are ?making their living? off of, but it?s an outright lie. All that is sold is fetal tissue so that those infinitely more knowledgeable than I at medicine research can develop cures for the diseases that those of us that are fully formed. I guess to you, that terminated pregnancy shouldn?t just be left as that and there should be no option to benefit the rest of humanity. I recommend you stop reading fake news sites like Newsmax. It?s the equivalent of the Weekly World News only with slightly fewer stories on Batboy. Quote:
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No? Are you certain about that? The FBI says that there has been a noted rise in attacks. I think I?ll go with the FBI over the word of ?The Big Guy? just making a claim on the internet without a shred of evidence to back it up. Quote:
The guy was quoted as yelling ?No more baby parts? while firing off a gun. Are you going to claim that he wasn?t radicalized by Christians that promoted a dishonest video? Quote:
Are you arguing that murdering someone for religious zeal is ok as long as it?s less than the number of people murdered by another group due to their religious zeal? Here is a list of information on anti-abortion violence and since I?m so nice, I?ll sum it up here: Between 1973, when the Supreme Court decided abortion should be legal throughout the United States, and 2003, abortion providers have been the targets of more than 300 acts of extreme violence, including arson, bombings, murders and butyric acid attacks. Now, I don?t know about you, but butyric acid attacks seem quite barbaric.
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And then there is your self proclaimed unbiased view of the world... just saying stuff with no basis of fact. There has been no rise in PP attacks by Christians... the last whacko in Denver was not a Christian or affiliated with any such group, despite the best attempts by news media to make links. And I am willing to bet that the number of Muslim murder victims attending holiday parties, concerts, riding planes, dining at cafes, attending marathons, being decapitated in their workplace far exceed the number of people murdered at PP Offices.
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Re: Best Oysters in JC?
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Edwards has a great happy hour $1 oyster.. very plump with mignonette using fresh cilantro.
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Well we know how well the state did building the NJ911 Memorial, they destroyed the scenic view that they want to preserve now.... never had enough money to complete the exterior so it looks like a concrete bunker and did not have money to repair after Sandy. You know it will only be a matter of time before the developers will ask to relocate it to another section of the park. As Pebbles said... there is a reason why it is called a public park.
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Re: In case you missed the news.. major cooridinated Islamic terror attack in Paris
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Conveniently leaving out the triple Waltham murder where the victims had their throats slashed to near decapitation (typical Muslim terror technique) and assuming your best premise for their political refugee status, the murderous brothers were radicalized in a Boston mosque whose radical leadership had affiliation to a Houston mosque. That mosque produced a member who went to work and cutoff the head of a 58 year old woman coworker. Of course Obama DOJ described these as "lone wolf" attacks. Workplace violence. The Boston killer family refused to assimilate and they had a vetted paper trail. The perfect foils for radical Muslim clerics to spread their global hate and anti western violence.
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Once again you have no idea what you are talking about... they came to the country, over stayed tourist visa and claimed refugee status because they were Chechen. Of course they had no job skills so went on welfare while Mom proceeded to become a very bad shoplifter, because she was caught a few times and had warrants. Of course the brothers were dealing drugs which got them involved as suspects with a triple murder in Waltham. Disillusioned with the lack of more free social services and the criminal justice they just naturally became Muslim terrorists because the payoff of 70 virgins was in their future. Let's talk about their college Chechen buddies now being deported for obstruction of justice. Mom continues to claim they were framed... an all Chechen American family.
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Wow, that?s a lot of cowardice and innuendo there... For one, the Boston Bombers were two brothers. It was basically one guy getting radicalized and then recruiting his brother. That is hardly what I would call a ?group.? Secondly, the brothers weren?t radicalized prior to coming to the US. The rest of this family is just fine and are, given their comments after the bombing, not in favor of what they did.
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Hey, the the guy got carried away with his numbers, it does not mean that there were not pockets in JC that were quite happy to watch the atrocity unfold.... the current guy in the WH is more dangerous because he does not even recognize that there is a global conflict with Muslim terror and its sympathizers. During a recent soccer match with Greece, the home team Turkey had hundreds booing during the requested moment of silence for Paris.
quote] RickSp wrote: Sadly amusing how the brain-dead bigots twist the facts to suit their particular hatreds. Yes, Trump claimed "thousands and thousands," which, of course, is a bald face lie. Not that facts matter to the right-wing haters/[/quote]
Posted on: 2015/11/23 4:28
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This President and his administration can not even get on the same page about this so called vetting process... is this the same process used to vet millions of illegals already here? Where will these Syrians wait for vetting.. in a camp somewhere in Europe? The Boston Bombers family were also vetted and when they got here, they started to collect free money which they used to buy "crockpots" (Obama reference). BTW the Russians warned us about this sleazy group. There is nothing wrong with protecting American citizens in our own country.
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Quoting an off the wall, blame the victim opinion is part of the Salon left wing regressive agenda....... it is good to know the trolls,bigots and right wing reactionaries you despise are not the ones committing the atrocities... try focusing on who is actually COMMITTING these atrocities, you ignorant DB and then give a logical response.... why do you jerks come to this oppressive countryif you are not happy? Stay in your own country and spew your hatred.
quote] Asif wrote: While most of the trolls, bigots and right wing reactionaries won't bother.
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Willful ignorance? even if you believe there are just a ?few hundred? radicals engaged or planning in terrorism here in the US, that is a few hundred too many considering the number casualties from the recent Egypt plane bombing and Paris were committed by just a handful.
The question is how big is the safety net that protects these killers? The Boston Marathon Bombing was not enough blood on the street for you to open your eyes to a sad reality? Make no mistake, the US has been very lucky if your ignore 9-11. BTW, speaking out against Muslim inspired terrorism does not make you a bigot. Another false media driven narrative. Quote:
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Dear Sully,
Your noble, but ultraistic sentiments are built on a false premise that attributes a Judeo-Christian Western rationale to these murderous bastards. They do not care about anything except for their global jihad through violence. They will also spread jihad with mass illegal or legal immigration throughout the west. They have no intention of assimilating into western culture because our values and lifestyle do not conform to their beliefs. You also fall for the dangerous media driven premise that says there is open hatred and persecution of Muslims in this country. This open society has bent over backwards to accommodate these people despite repeated attacks by their young believers driven by an immoral dogma. 99.99% of Americans are quite restrained while car bombs are driven into Time Square, women are beheaded in the workplace, college students are slashed in classrooms and our constitutional right to free speech is directly assaulted by jihadists at a conference center. The willful ignorance of the west dangerously plays into their global aspirations for an Islamic world. To hear the media and government terrorist experts admit surprise this morning that they never considered any other tactic other ?lone wolf? attacks is gross negligence. Where did they think these isolated attacks were leading? Quote:
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The irony here are the US federal agencies offering the French support... as if the French government can't turn these 6 incidents into 6 separate isolated acts of workplace violence committed by lonely misunderstood young men who were simply upset because they could not find work and their social benefits were being shut-off. Perhaps they just needed a safe space to gather and talk about their angst?
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Just announcing that incident will not delay his plan to bring 250000 undocumented middle easterners to our shores... curious if this time he will blow off the memorial service for these poor dead people and send Kerry instead?
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Re: Resident calls Jersey City condo artwork inappropriate
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You are making my point... this is a private property and this became a news story for discussion because of the larger social issues that you summed up nicely. You talk and teach your children in an age appropriate manner. Who knows what a 5 year old is thinking when they hear some dope screaming and swearing into their cellphone on the street? Something clicked into my mind the other day with the cold weather coming about those cold winter days February when the US male population could not wait for the Sports Illustrated Swim Suit issue to come on the newsstands... that was a media sensation then and it is hardly noteworthy today. Parents have a tough job to do with so many outside influences... good or bad. Why make it more complicated in their living spaces even if it is a common area. I am not a censorship person but sometimes a little more consideration for all the residents in the building goes a long way.
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Stunning... not a lawyer, but I assume this verdict would hurt civil litigation. Now he get reinstated with back pay? Quote:
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So you are criticizing parents who want to protect their children from something they find offensive??? This building is part of their living environment, not the food court at the Newport Mall. They have a right to object. Curious why the SL only published two photos from the catalogue... were they the only ones fit to print?
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Apparently she was not that drunk to realize she was at Newark Airport... $40 bucks is fairly typical fair. have to wonder how he missed JC after going thru the Holland Tunnel? She probably feel asleep in the cab and the driver saw a chance to jack up the rate.
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Darn those pesky customers.... they fell for the over priced food when they could bring their own wine, but we lost them when we started to sell our overpriced wine selections with $75 per seat pairings. They recognized the problems, did nothing to adjust their pretentious attitudes and they are out of business. There are plenty of byob restaurants still in business after many years in JC and Hoboken... sad truth is they lost their heart and desire to keep the business going. Nothing wrong with that, but blaming customer tastes and the cost of labor when you have a culinary school in J Sq seem slightly self serving, if you excuse the pun.
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Re: Four months on Hudson County payroll gets Jim McGreevey lifetime benefits
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He should have been the first gay governor of New Jersey to go to jail for public corruption and malfeasance in office. There really needs to be a grass roots movement for instituting term limits for elected officials in federal positions and at all level of state government.
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Re: Tamika McReynolds, convicted of fraud with Sharpe James, working at JC Rec. Dept
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I said it earlier and I will repeat myself.... does this job contribute time to some sort of pension fund? The activity at the Rec Dept was already under question, so why shouldn't her hiring also be reviewed. Look at what McGreevy did with the help of Fulop to work 4 months for the county as an FTE Jersey City employee to qualify for a $66K pension with lifetime healthcare. So he "retires" in August and still is collecting his $111K city salary on top of the pension. Most of these people are unemployable in the private sector (real world) and there has to be some other reason why she has humbled herself at $15 per hour part time?
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Re: Tamika McReynolds, convicted of fraud with Sharpe James, working at JC Rec. Dept
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Big difference between a traffic warrant from multiple parking tickets and violating the public trust the way she did in Newark. Typical political hack and appointment. Probably created the job just for her.
Think some Jersey City mother working part time over a grill at McDonalds would not be interested in a career change?
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Could she be working to get enough time in for some sort of pension as a reward for her years of public service?
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Probably the guy trying to walk through the crowded 5:10 WTC-NWK PATH train tonight. Was waiting for him to fall over someone as he passed though the car.
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And you writing about a public authority that forgot to put ADA accommodations in the Grove Street Entrance Project and 14 years later still has not finished rebuilding the WTC. Customer Service is a phrase they never heard off... you will be long gone before they finish a PATH expansion project.
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And cheaper still is the 62 bus. I'll be giving it a try next time I'm flying out of Newark. PATH has some serious issues, but are you really advocating against investment in a service that provides public transportation for 266,000 riders a day? The new PATH station at Newark Airport has yet to be designed. It's also been announced that design work to replace the shitty AirTrain, which had reached the end of its useful life, is currently underway. The vision for the area includes a new transit hub connecting NJ Transit, PATH, the new AirTrain, and a small bus terminal. It could also bring economic development to the air.[/quote]
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Still cheaper than a limo/cab ride with driver tip. The PATH can't manage the service they provide now. Do you really think giving them all that money to build/manage that additional section of track is responsible? Do you really think they are going to run PATH to each terminal. It would terminate right at the monorail station where the trains stop.
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Posted on: 2015/9/10 13:48
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Not sure what the problem with NJ Transit o AirTrain. I have used it with no problem a number of times.
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Fulop comments on Iran deal... I wonder if he expects Menendez's seat to vacant soon? Backstopping the governor run with senate seat?
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Related or not the reporter felt compelled to mention it in the story... what got him canned was creating the special money losing route from Newark to SC because the PA Chairman did a lot of business down there... should have just given him a free turboprop ride to get to all those important meetings :)
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