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Re: Football Field on Grand and Merceles. Who does it belong to??
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Its part of the JC parks dept, as far as I know. I played both little league baseball and HS football on that years ago (back before they cleaned it up).

Posted on: 2010/10/25 17:56
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Toms River schools chief indicted on bribery charges
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Posted on: 2010/10/25 9:29
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Re: Developer prohibits volunteers from cleaning up contested Sixth Street Embankment
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Owner of property kicks unwanted people off his land. Film at 11

Posted on: 2010/10/24 20:21
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Re: Taste of India at Newport Centre Mall
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tried it once a while ago when it first opened. wasn't very impressed

Posted on: 2010/10/17 4:19
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Re: Embankment- Update Thread
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Not particularly, no. I just tend to dislike things like eminent domain and not permitting someone who owns a piece of fairly useless land to be able to build appropriate neighborhood-level homes.

He bought the land. Apparently when Jersey City didn't even put in a bid for it (thats what i gather from the recent comments in this thread). If he's willing to pay for the proper environmental studies and to safely remove an eyesore in the neighborhood and make it something useful that won't just fk up the neighborhood, then I really don't see why he shouldn't be permitted to do so.

Especially when the other option is the city spends money it can't afford for a joke of a park. I'm ambivalent to a light rail extension - it'd be nice, but man would that suck for the people living on the north half of 5th st. - trains 10 feet from your window? I know I wouldn't want that.

Too often, things get delayed for months and years here in JC due to the interference of local officials. Bars, restaurants, etc. etc. keep getting hassled. Remember that thread, I believe it was concerning the Hamilton Park Ale House where one person overheard some JC official bragging about having single-handedly delayed some place for months on end? Dunno about you, but I despise that kind of fiefdom nonsense. Atomic Wings taking years to open up. The new deli on Manila that was supposed to have opened in the spring. Barcade.

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Posted on: 2010/10/6 21:14
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Re: Embankment- Update Thread
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I'd love more parks. Half-block deep parks aren't all that exciting to me, however. The fact that the land hasn't been used for years as anything means that we're not particularly gaining or losing any ground. It isn't like they're bulldozing Hamilton Park to make houses, it's non-usable space right now.

Would it be nice to have a park? Sure. I don't want an elevated park due to the costs, and the idea of 1-block x 1/2-block parks don't light a fire under me. Let's face a couple facts tho, we're better than many when it comes to parks. We've got:

*a good sized park up by Pavonia and Brunswick - big playground, hockey rink, baseball diamond, soccer field, etc.
*a nice park in Hamilton - dog run, basketball court, tennis courts, gazebo, playground
*a small park over in Van Vorst - dog run, playground, garden
*two LARGE parks in lincoln park and liberty state park less than three miles and a mile away (respectively)

Go look at google maps and head on over across the river to NYC. Take a look at the tons of neighborhoods with fewer parks than us. Canarsie, Midwood, Bensonhurst, Bed-Stuy, Astoria, Woodside, all of downtown Manhattan just to name a few. Jersey City is fairly decent as far as urban areas and parks go, especially downtown. We're not doing too bad.

Having said this, I can at least respect that Hyman deserves the right to make something off his purchase. I don't want to permit him to build high-rises, and hope that JC gov't doesn't screw that up, but he did purchase the place. I say let him wait til the market improves, get rid of a useless wall and build appropriate-sized buildings that won't screw up the neighborhood.

Posted on: 2010/10/6 18:57
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Re: Embankment- Update Thread
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Tern: It depends on if you are for demolishing or not. If not, it's a good thing...for now, until the hearings/debate over the Certificate of Appropriateness.


Corybraiterman: Deciphering through your post (sorry, I was distracted by 'point of you' instead of, what I assumed you meant, 'point of view').... you seem to project a future for the Embankment that's based on utopia and not reality, as if Hyman is a philanthropist and not a developer... And JC is a fair and balanced city...

If you review any of the posts here on taxes, developers, abatements (the list goes on...) you will see that your points are refuted by the 'simple thing' that JC government is corrupt: pure and simple. To think that Hyman will create a highline park... or that he will be taxed appropriately... or that the high rises will be zoned appropriately... gives a bit too much credit to our City, who looks for any opportunity to have a greased pocket.


One can only hope that the Board does the right thing with the next step, Certificate of Appropriateness.


Hyman won't turn it into a highline style park. Never said he has or will. His opponents want to do that, and I think thats just as bad as high-rise condos.

Stating JC is corrupt (while correct) isn't the issue. Asking "what people want" is the question, and those are my answers: Townhouses/brownstones/appropriate buildings, small businesses, ground-level park, some extra parking - in that order - is my answer.

Again, the question is "what is to be done with the embankment". High-rise condos and highline style park are the worst options, imo, even including the fact that we have to fight city hall as well as overzealous developers.

Posted on: 2010/10/6 16:30
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Re: Embankment- Update Thread
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Option 2: get rid of it. Small townhouses, 3-4 story buildings for apartments or condos, brownstones, ground-level park - these are all workable options that don't cost the city money and in at least a few of those cases, give the city taxable assets. Hell, have a ground-level parking lot on one block so us locals that have cars can get easier parking in the neighborhood.


There are a lot of churches in this part of town sitting on very valuable land that pay no property taxes, do we tear them down too in order to build taxable properties? I don't attend church, why should my property taxes support that? Now, I don't really mean that but the point is you shouldn't destroy a historic part of downtown that carries meaning to many, many people with the argument it's not taxable land - if you have a problem with taxes demand the city revoke abatements along the waterfront, that's where the real tax deficit comes into play. There are plenty of culprits contributing to the deficit Jersey City is currently in, making the Embankment a scapegoat for that is beyond ridiculous.

The naivete of some on this board astounds me - you think Hyman is spending all this money fighting the city to put in a few small townhouses with some public greenspace scattered about? If the city grants him an economic hardship (because after all, can you think of one person in all of Jersey City who has suffered more financially than Steve Hyman?) he's tearing the Embankment down and it will either sit vacant for years until the market turns around or large condo high-rises are going up.


1) Don't put words in my mouth, thanks. Your example has nothing to do with the price of tea in China, so kindly take it elsewhere. My point of you can a) spend money on a highline style park or b) make some property taxes on it is a very base, simple thing that even you should be able to grasp without throwing strawmen arguments against.

2) High-rises can be zoned against. If Hyman wants to spend the tremendous amount of money to remove the embankment to simply leave it put as empty ground level abandoned lots, then he's a bigger idiot than anyone on this board has accused him of being already. If anything, he'd leave it as is until the market turned up so he wouldn't spend those millions now.

Posted on: 2010/10/6 2:26
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Re: Embankment- Update Thread
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It's also dangerous. ....folks are still getting mugged around there. And its a graffiti magnet. Sketchy at night.



Based on that criteria, you would then have half of Jersey city torn down.

Save that argument for where it's appropriate (i.e. Montgomery Towers).


don't ignore the rest of what he's saying at all... not at all. forget the other good points made and mention that "well there's a lot of graffiti elsewhere, so we'd have to tear down lots of jc!"

cmon.

Option 1: light rail extension. Dunno how good of an idea that would be with residences literally on top of that, but it would at least provide a service.

Option 2: get rid of it. Small townhouses, 3-4 story buildings for apartments or condos, brownstones, ground-level park - these are all workable options that don't cost the city money and in at least a few of those cases, give the city taxable assets. Hell, have a ground-level parking lot on one block so us locals that have cars can get easier parking in the neighborhood.

Making it an elevated park is a tremendous waste of resources that JC can't afford to do right now.

Posted on: 2010/10/5 16:26
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Re: Jersey City woman bashed in head and robbed of cell phone, credit cards, and cash, police say
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Five juveniles struck a Jersey City woman in the head with a piece of wood and a girl then dragged the victim into a Downtown parking lot where they robbed her of $550 in cash and property early Sunday morning, officials said.


Diverse methods of attack there. Piece of wood and girl. How does one attack someone with a girl, anyway? Hold her by a limb and just club the victim? Throw her on the victim like you would an animal and hope damage is done as it tries to flee?

Posted on: 2010/10/5 1:43
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Re: Downtown: Woman robbed outside her (second street) home
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Look at these stats NYC and Jerey City. Wow something to be proud of.

http://www.areaconnect.com/crime/comp ... 1=NY&c2=Jersey+City&s2=NJ


Meh, the graphs are not set to scale and thus look a lot worse than they are. Take the first one, 7 murders per 100,000 people vs 9.2 per. If the graph were to scale, the latter number would be about a third larger than the first (9.2 is about 31.5% more than 7). Instead, it's more than double the size.

Posted on: 2010/9/10 4:22
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Re: C-Town Being Sold
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uh... the reason TJ's is so popular is because they're putting out good food at a very fair price. $3 bottles of wine that are very, very drinkable? Yes, please. The rest of the food is certainly more expensive than a huge supermarket chain, but nowhere approaching While Foods' level of stupidity.

Let's put it this way. I can fill up a handbasket at TJ's and it won't run me more than $30. That same basket would probably run me $25 if stuff was on sale at Shoprite and about $50 at Whole Foods.

Posted on: 2010/9/4 17:43
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Re: C-Town Being Sold
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meh.

I buy a pound or two of ground beef from there just about every time I do my laundry across the street (standard price of $1.99 is cheaper than all but the biggest Shoprite sales). Never been sick once in ten years of doing this. Not the greatest of stores, but certainly convenient for what it is.

Assuming something useful goes up in its stead, I will neither mourn its passing or praise its demise.

Posted on: 2010/8/29 23:15
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Re: Mistake might have cost NJ federal education grant of $400,000,000
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Imagine what would happen if the feds allowed NJ to change something in its application after the deadline and Ohio, which would be less than 2 points behind, found out. What then???


Perhaps this is a tad Machiavellian, but I can certainly see politics playing a part in this. Ohio is a hotly contested battleground state. NJ is firmly democrat (nationally) in the time of a democratic administration. Would not surprise me if a few people put 2+2 together and told NJ to piss on a rope because of their clerical screwup rather than allow it simply because of the potential political gains for being in OH's good graces.

Posted on: 2010/8/26 10:48
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Re: Downtown Jersey City bank robbed
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Nice, two posts before this became the standard "blame Healy for all crime" rant.

I do so love the crime section of JC list sometimes.

Posted on: 2010/8/9 17:44
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Re: 233 8th street
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I've heard other bad things about him on this list. CBA to find the threads, but they're there somewhere. I'd probably pass.

Posted on: 2010/8/5 21:16
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Re: Palisades Jitney Routes?
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they do

Posted on: 2010/8/2 0:38
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Re: Will PSE&G Solar Panels be Placed in Front of your Historic Home? They are coming soon to JC!
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I like how the old colonial homes in suburban areas are being compared to much, much newer apartment buildings, condos and at most, brownstones. I would happily let PSEG use the roof of this place, but for the fact that it's a rental, so that's the landlord's decision. Plenty of sun up here on the roofs in downtown.

Posted on: 2010/7/26 20:10
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Re: The Embankment Restaurant
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Meh, i think i may have posted once earlier on in this thread, but every time I've eaten there, something's been wrong. Random surprises as the poster above me mentioned (why is there a fig on my duck? it doesn't say that on the menu), poor sizes - my appetizer was much larger than my main course, sometimes out and out bad food!

Had a dinner group with relatives, the creme brule was inedible and the strawberry cheesecake had the taste and consistency of yogurt.

Posted on: 2010/7/24 0:42
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Re: Embankment- Update Thread
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I've stated many, many times in this thread what a terrible waste of money a highline-style park would be. IF IF IF this gets used for a lightrail extension, I'm for that, however I remain skeptical that it will get used for something so practical and sensible. Let's just say that when you've lived here for as many decades as I have, you become just a tad pessimistic about JC actually doing something smart.

Posted on: 2010/7/16 8:36
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Re: Embankment- Update Thread
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what a waste of money

Posted on: 2010/7/15 23:13
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Re: Just 15 minutes ago: Female jogger harassed/assaulted by roving band of teens - Jersey and 4th
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This is why we need luxury condo apartments with high rents and condo conversions. Having apartment buildings with one owner will deem it rent controlled with low rent and possibably section 8 families. If these hoodlums don't live in the area they caused havoc in then why were they lurking in that neighborhood ? That basketball court is an invite asking for trouble in the newly renovated Hamilton Park.


lol very nice.

Posted on: 2010/7/13 23:22
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Re: Just 15 minutes ago: Female jogger harassed/assaulted by roving band of teens - Jersey and 4th
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The police don't patrol downtown. Its safe. Crime is down. Healy said so last year. Crime is down. Crime is down. You are lying. There is no crime. Nothing to see here.


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it only took two replies for this thread to get derailed into a political turdfest. sometimes you impress me, jclist.

Posted on: 2010/7/13 6:43
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Re: St. Anthony's Festival on 6th, eat Kielbasa and see an amazing church!
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fresh zeppolis are one of life's great joys.

Posted on: 2010/7/10 23:39
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Re: Council wrestles with suspected corruption: Twice as many food vendor licenses as law allows
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Couple of general thoughts on the matter.

1) Owning a food truck/cart is a legitimate business as well. I realize this is an inference of words, but when one says "hurting businesses" and "counterproductive to businesses" then that's a fair implication. Joe Shmoe Restaurateur is no better or worse an individual/business than Joe Shlemiel Food Truck Operator.

2) If the license fee is too low to make up the revenue lost from a place that is paying taxes on a brick and mortar store, then there are other ways to try and make that up without imposing rules on moving the truck every 20 or 40 minutes. Ordinances like that seem more frustrating than logical. Stop serving food every 20 minutes to move? How far do they have to move? Two inches? A parking spot? Around the corner? How strict is the time limit - will they get ticketed if a customer is waiting for their food and it expires?

On a similar matter and just a question, does this also apply to non-truck vendors like a hot dog cart?

In any case, the city could instead raise the fee significantly to make up for those lost dollars, or perhaps force the trucks to charge a sales tax like any other business.

3) Food trucks are a big part of a city's character and identity. NYC is obviously known worldwide for being the place for food and cuisine but places like Los Angeles with their Mexican-American food have had good long-standing relationships with street vendors. Even places like New Brunswick have embraced the greasy spoon trucks that serve the college kids there as a tourist attraction. That one that "invented" the Fat Darrell, the "throw everything on a sandwich roll" is actually pretty famous. He's been on Food Network a few times and got a nice writeup in Maxim a few years ago, among other publications.

Posted on: 2010/7/6 14:45
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Re: Dollar Buses
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Idiotic comments don't offend me.

What are you talking about?


Nice to know you won't be offended by anything anyone says. I'm not particularly either. But if you're trying to insult me, making an awful pun about my name is the best you can do?

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That's just embarrassing for you.

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"Blaming the area". Where the heck did I do that? Please point it out because you are making stuff up. Blaming a park for leaving something there? Are you for real?


from your original post: Just heard this morning that my mom-in-law left an envelope on one of them yesterday. She left her items in a public place. Anyone could have picked them up - a rider, the driver, maybe it got knocked on the floor and mistaken for trash. Blaming the bus driver and/or company because you left something there is mildly ridiculous.

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There "policy on lost and found is sketchy at best". This so called policy is one that has been invented between your ears, not anywhere else. You are amazing.


You mean the line where I use the word policy in quotation marks to denote a sarcastic tone since there clearly isn't one? I'm agreeing with you, hoss. Reading comprehension with me?

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My mom in law is 72 years old, jerk. She had decided to go on her own. She has been advised to avoid them in the future.


Good for her, my dad is 76. Why should she avoid them if she needs them to go from point A to point B? Because she lost something in a public place once?

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She lost important papers. We didn't recover them. It's done.


And my sympathies for her and you. Losing important documents suck. Could have happened anywhere.

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I would advise you to take a basic reading course so that next time, your "advice" will make a penny's worth of sense.


I'd advise you to not be an idiot and blame a bus/bus driver/bus company for your elderly in-law being forgetful or clumsy. Again, my sympathies for the hassle, show some common sense in apportioning blame. Work on your reading comprehension while you're at it.

Posted on: 2010/7/3 4:12
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Re: Free, unlimited Wi-Fi policy begins now at all 3 Downtown Jersey City Starbucks
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Newport, Grove Street, where is the third downtown Starbucks?

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Starbucks -- @ 98 Newark Avenue (Downtown)

Starbucks -- @ 111 Town Square Place (Waterfront)

Starbucks -- @ 100 14th Street (Inside the Target)

http://www.starbucks.com/store-locator



I was wondering the same thing. Completely forgot about the Target one. Thanks.

Posted on: 2010/7/2 18:08
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Re: Greenville: Man shot 6 times by man dressed in black on Martin Luther King Drive
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So are we talking this man
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Posted on: 2010/6/30 16:12
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Re: Dollar Buses
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No offense, but blaming the area she dropped something for losing an item is kind of silly. Do you blame a park if you forget something there? Do you blame a subway? Yea it sucks that she lost something and who knows if she'll ever get it back, and yea their "policy" on lost and found items is sketchy at best, but put a little blame on yourself when you lose something, you know? No one's fault but your own.

Posted on: 2010/6/28 16:12
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Re: Council approves bonding for moving Public Works complex off Rt 440 so land there can be redeveloped
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nice to know all our elected officials are still scumbags, welcome to Jersey :D

Posted on: 2010/6/27 17:23
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