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It's disgusting. Beautiful Hudson River side property (imagine a park) ruined by corporate highrises and "Luxury Condo" (hotel) living.

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actually newport is so-o self contained - that we don't want much traffic on our 2-3 'round the square blocks - you'll have to come by path. i actually like it much better then ph and hoboken combined (naturally, since this is where i live). once we have a park up north, things will be very nice (not to mention a gourmet grocer and korean style deli to open soon). it's easy to critisize. trump built HIS buildings flush with street, so did athena and even new east of mandalay dev will be like that, on a tiny, collapsing into the water, plot... last i heard goldman is sticking another hi-rise in ...so lets not get stuck on newport...plenty of other devs are doing much worse. all developers are greedy...
my take - liberty north will be very suburban style and QUITE more isolated too. not to MY liking, but i am sure many people will be attracted to it. i just love the future 3 curved towers in the sky - that's a dream...for the whole metro area. THEY will be getting whole foods.... - i'm green with envy. still better, then driving to montclair or edgewater.


I admit it, I slammed Pavonia-Newport partly because I knew I'd get a quick response from icricket. Remember, icricket is absolutely not tied to the Pavonia-Newport developers. We've been over that before and gosh darn, it's not true.

It makes you think, though: what if developers would actually stoop so low as to try to influence public opinion through friendly neighborhood message boards? *shudder*

icricket, could you tell us again how beautiful that curved skyscraper that's replacing Pep Boys is going to be?

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you xenophobic, chickadee?

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ICRICKET? In Pavonia-Newport? Gotta be British or Indian.

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The hate is strong in this thread. How about everyone just agree to hate everything.


Screw you........

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The hate is strong in this thread. How about everyone just agree to hate everything.

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'cause i'm STITCH - and there will be more like me, then like you soon. get ready, we'll swarm you.

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If you're sooo self-contained over in the sterility of Newport then why don't you get your own list and stay off of ours.

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actually newport is so-o self contained - that we don't want much traffic on our 2-3 'round the square blocks - you'll have to come by path. i actually like it much better then ph and hoboken combined (naturally, since this is where i live). once we have a park up north, things will be very nice (not to mention a gourmet grocer and korean style deli to open soon). it's easy to critisize. trump built HIS buildings flush with street, so did athena and even new east of mandalay dev will be like that, on a tiny, collapsing into the water, plot... last i heard goldman is sticking another hi-rise in ...so lets not get stuck on newport...plenty of other devs are doing much worse. all developers are greedy...
my take - liberty north will be very suburban style and QUITE more isolated too. not to MY liking, but i am sure many people will be attracted to it. i just love the future 3 curved towers in the sky - that's a dream...for the whole metro area. THEY will be getting whole foods.... - i'm green with envy. still better, then driving to montclair or edgewater.

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I was just looking at the pics online of Liberty Harbor North and I can't believe how gorgeous it's going to be. This is a real planned community, designed to be a comfy, livable place. Love the big walking street that runs diagonally through it. I like my house, but it's all making me jealous.

As a contrast to good planning, look at the mess that is Pavonia-Newport. Instead of creating a lovely new neighborhood along the water, the LaFraks just plopped down skyscrapers anywhere they'd fit. It's so ugly and so poorly designed. You can't even park your car legally while you run into Starbucks. Big thanks to the departed Schundler administration for selling premium land to developers who had no interest in creating a real community. It's such an opportunity wasted, it makes me wanna cry.

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I bet a Trader Joes would do just as well....

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Nothing like a organic market on a former superfund site.
Wash your veggies!

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actually shop rite is laying in organics too...
newport's liquor shop has a very nice wine,etc selection . they'll order for you whatever you want too(it's in east chase building, around the corner on newport parkway).
and when you get a mixed wine-only box (12 bottles) - you get a 10% (?)discount. they deliver too. i think it's the best local wine shop.

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Morris Blvd does not yet exist . . . part of the new complex.

As for Whole Foods. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE come here!! Fairway would be fine too. Or I would settle for a good butcher on Grove Street.

I know WF is way overpriced but there is nowhere to get good meat or seafood in town. And the selection of produce at WF is unmatched. As much as I love getting my groceries delivered, a woman cannot survive on FreshDirect alone, and the big markets around here are really only good for packaged foods.

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I heard months ago about Whole Foods coming to Jersey City from area locals to the building/shopping complex being built now next to the James Madison off North Blvd in Newport. Not sure where they heard about it but that was the plan. It would make more sense around there because of all the affluent highrises.

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PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, BRING IT ALONG!!!!!!

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http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/index ... 61153525279850.xml&coll=3

Wednesday, October 18, 2006
By JARRETT RENSHAW
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

Whole Foods Market may soon bring its organic and natural food brand to Downtown Jersey City.

Several city sources told The Jersey Journal that developer Peter Mocco and Whole Foods officials are working on a deal that would land the "green" supermarket in the Liberty Harbor North development.

Whole Foods officials could not be reached for comment and Mocco would not confirm the negotiations.

However, he said: "Whole Foods is a great retailer, and it would be an asset in Jersey City. I am confident that Whole Foods is coming to Jersey City, but the exact location is a function of many things such as parking and transportation."

The Liberty Harbor North plan calls for a major retail corridor along Morris Boulevard, between Jersey Avenue and Marin Boulevard, said Mocco. The plan also calls for a "gourmet" supermarket, said Mocco.

Downtown residents have been clamoring for a gourmet supermarket for years and Whole Foods, which operates more that 155 stores throughout North America and Britain, has been at the top of their list.

JARRETT RENSHAW can be reached at jrenshaw@jjournal.com.

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I'll take a Trader Joe's...great products, much lower prices than Whole Foods.

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We're chiming in anyway because we want to believe. Like I'll dismiss the line about Whole Foods needing parking (Manhattan has several Whole Foods without parking and we're kinda like Manhattan, except without the opera). I'll dismiss the April 1st part because April 1st happens every year, and sometimes stuff that's said on that day turns out to be true. I'll dismiss the lack of a mention on the Whole Foods website because they may be negotiating the lease in secret to keep their costs down and aren't quite ready to go public with the announcement. It could be true. Maybe.

I want to believe!


I want to believe, too but I have to dismiss your dismissing the line about parking. Manhattan has a much higher population density, and its residents have made an art of living without cars. A Whole Foods just wouldn't have enough people within walking distance in JC, and not enough people would take a cab. And I don't think our lovely planners would allow a non-lot store, anyway, because it would create congestion when everyone drives there and double parks on the street. Just imagine Sobseys in Hoboken, but a hundred times worse.

I'm hoping one of these big box stores pulls out and a WF oepns up. . . .

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Since we are fantasizing here, I'll take a Trader Joe's over a Whole Foods any day! I am tired of walking out of WF $60 lighter and with one shopping bag on hand. Trader Joe's is my new poison!

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I'll dismiss the April 1st part because April 1st happens every year, and sometimes stuff that's said on that day turns out to be true.


Press-type releases like that don't happen on Saturdays...


You did get that my post was a joke...right?

Keep it up everybody!! We'll get this to five pages yet!

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I got the square footage from their website. They only give it for new stores.

http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/stores/newstores.html

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Any idea how large the Whole Foods is in places like Montclair? What about the one in Chelsea - it seems much smaller than Columbus Circle or Union Square. I think parking is a non-issue if population density is high.

Maybe Trader Joe's and Whole Foods could form a joint venture and JC could be the first place with a Trader Joe's Whole? Sorry, but this Lucent Alcatel thing has just gotten me thinking about M&As in a big way.

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The new developments would love to get Whole Foods here but I don't think they have enough square footage or parking. If I am not mistaken, I think 77 Hudson Street only has 20,000 square feet for retail. Columbus Tower has 31,000 square feet of ground floor retail space.

Look at the square footage in Manhattan:

New York City (Tribeca)
Whole Foods Market
Greenwich St & Warren St
New York, NY
55,000 sq. ft.
Opening date to be announced.

New York City
Whole Foods Market
Bowery & Houston St.
New York, NY
66,000 sq. ft.
Opening date to be announced.

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This is going to turn into a 5 page thread.



We're chiming in anyway because we want to believe. Like I'll dismiss the line about Whole Foods needing parking (Manhattan has several Whole Foods without parking and we're kinda like Manhattan, except without the opera). I'll dismiss the April 1st part because April 1st happens every year, and sometimes stuff that's said on that day turns out to be true. I'll dismiss the lack of a mention on the Whole Foods website because they may be negotiating the lease in secret to keep their costs down and aren't quite ready to go public with the announcement. It could be true. Maybe.

I want to believe!

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You guys are right...it is totally an April Fool's joke. It becomes obvious when you read the rest of that day's post.

Sorry for starting this thread...got too excited for a minute there!!

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This is going to turn into a 5 page thread.

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Oh, for crying out loud, it's an April Fool's joke, people

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I think it's just another rumor of Whole Foods coming to Jersey City.

Years ago, when I first heard a similar rumor, I eventually heard through a friend who knew someone in the Whole Foods corporate offices that they would not open a location that didn't have significant parking.

It might happen, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Sheesh! I just looked at the link for the blog. did you bother to read the date on the entry? Or the entry below it about the Jets moving to Hoboken?

APRIL FOOLS!

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