tommyc_37 wrote:
I wish there was some sort of phone app, or at least some way to get a PDF of those current charts into my phone. I have a hard copy at home, but it'd be nice to glance at it on the fly; when I'm on the water, in a harbor grabbing dinner, fishing, etc.

tommyc_37 wrote:
High tide in Weehawken is about 30 minutes after high tide at the Battery. Which makes sense, if the water is moving about 1-2 kts. It is indeed confusing, but the differentiating factor is the Long Island Sound...you really have two large bodies of water feeding NY Harbor. For this reason, Eldridge books include charts of the currents in NY Harbor - it's not a typical inlet system. I have been on my boat in the Battery where the East River and Hudson River meet, on a nearly windless day, going over 4' waves.

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brewster wrote:
Bravo PH! How's the new boat? And how are you working that tin, jigging near the bottom or retrieving? Is that clam on there?

My son and I were out yesterday 10:30 to 2, he working a hi-lo with fishbites and me a bucktail and teaser with Gulp hoping for a fluke. He had 7 spots & croakers, me zip. The boy caught dinner!

Was the first calm day in a while, but the wind rose from ~6kt to 15 just after we took off. Good timing was lucky. Another weid thing wa that even though high tide was 11:50, we still drifted north till after 1. I kept waiting for it to reverse, and finally we had to paddle back from north of Ellis back to the south end kayak launch.

That's great that you made it out. Wow 7 spots is great eating! Nice work.

The new yak is great. It's a 10ft Old Town Vapor Angler and tracks very nicely. My old Prijon was a whitewater river boat so every time I would do a stroke it would twist. Glad to have gotten that off my hands.

The only thing I don't like about it is the seat. It's brutal. Next time I'm using my PFD as the cushion. Otherwise it's really a great harbor boat.

I was using clams and just jigging in about 8ft. of water. I tell ya, they were nibbling and stealing the bait constantly. Definitely a good time, though.

Wear your PFD, don't sit on it! See if you can get some minicell foam sheet like this, it's closed cell, usually dark grey with a smooth surface, and commonly used for kayak seat outfitting. glue some 1/4 or 1/2 inch down in the seat with contact cement. One of the best things about my new boat is the great seat and backrest. After decades of paddling whitewater boats the backrest is such a luxury.

One way to beat the baitstealers is really small hooks, like #6 or 8. Next time out we'll bring some salted clam and see how it does head to head vs fishbites. The bite was definitely a little slower yesterday than some previous trips, lots of variable though, like time, tide and location.

Tommy, do I understand that correctly that at high there's a still a 1.7 kt north current? But you can't put water in a vessel without the level rising! Shouldn't high tide be later then, or is it actually later in Weehawken even as it's falling at the Battery?

paulushooker wrote:
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brewster wrote:
Bravo PH! How's the new boat? And how are you working that tin, jigging near the bottom or retrieving? Is that clam on there?

My son and I were out yesterday 10:30 to 2, he working a hi-lo with fishbites and me a bucktail and teaser with Gulp hoping for a fluke. He had 7 spots & croakers, me zip. The boy caught dinner!

Was the first calm day in a while, but the wind rose from ~6kt to 15 just after we took off. Good timing was lucky. Another weid thing wa that even though high tide was 11:50, we still drifted north till after 1. I kept waiting for it to reverse, and finally we had to paddle back from north of Ellis back to the south end kayak launch.

That's great that you made it out. Wow 7 spots is great eating! Nice work.

The new yak is great. It's a 10ft Old Town Vapor Angler and tracks very nicely. My old Prijon was a whitewater river boat so every time I would do a stroke it would twist. Glad to have gotten that off my hands.

The only thing I don't like about it is the seat. It's brutal. Next time I'm using my PFD as the cushion. Otherwise it's really a great harbor boat.

I was using clams and just jigging in about 8ft. of water. I tell ya, they were nibbling and stealing the bait constantly. Definitely a good time, though.

brewster wrote:
Bravo PH! How's the new boat? And how are you working that tin, jigging near the bottom or retrieving? Is that clam on there?

My son and I were out yesterday 10:30 to 2, he working a hi-lo with fishbites and me a bucktail and teaser with Gulp hoping for a fluke. He had 7 spots & croakers, me zip. The boy caught dinner!

Was the first calm day in a while, but the wind rose from ~6kt to 15 just after we took off. Good timing was lucky. Another weid thing wa that even though high tide was 11:50, we still drifted north till after 1. I kept waiting for it to reverse, and finally we had to paddle back from north of Ellis back to the south end kayak launch.

tommyc_37 wrote:
The current in New York Harbor moves north from 2 hours before high tide to 2 hours after high tide. It's not your typical system; very complex with Long Island Sound/East River also feeding the system.

paulushooker wrote:
New fishing kayak comes in tomorrow so I might see you on the water this weekend. I got the clams and bunker all ready to go.

bodhipooh wrote:
If I recall correctly, about a year or two ago, someone came in here and tried to drum up some interest in getting some people to chip in to rent some space to store kayaks. I think interest was tepid, sadly. I would love to own a hard shell kayak, but cringe at the space requirements.

I ended up buying an inflatable one (Intex Challenger, through Amazon) and I have used it extensively on the Hudson and I am VERY impressed with it. It is fun, and VERY sturdy (I can actually stand inside of it) and it seats two. My usual copilot is my dog (a Weimaraner) and he is happy in it, too. There are suggestions for making it even more stable by adding a fin to it, but I have done just fine without it. I can have it inflated and ready to launch in less than 10 minutes. After taking it on the Hudson, I come home, wash it down, let it dry out and then fold it back into its bag. Definitely a good investment and fun. May not be suitable for a rocky white water rapids trip, though.

SteveWilson29 wrote: Is there still nowhere downtown to store a canoe/kayak?