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jklm wrote:
Are you an engineer and know these things because it's your job?

No, and no. But, I am a keen observer, and can tell you with certainty that North of Columbus Dr., LMM Blvd is wider than Grove/Manila.

LMM Blvd. is a full four-lane road (in some parts parking is allowed on both sides, like the block between 1st and 2nd Streets, and you still have a wide lane in each direction!) while Grove is about 3 lanes.

But, if you still insist on believing what you want to believe, why don't you measure it and disabuse yourself of your misconceptions? You can do so with free online tools. Go ahead and use Google Maps.

You can change the view to Google Earth and have it measure the roads for you. The intersection of 1st and Grove/Manila measures out to just shy of 37 feet, from curb to curb. The same corner on LMM Blvd. measures out to 49 feet. Those measurements are curb to curb, excluding sidewalks, so they represent the actual road surface.

bill wrote:
Is marin that top street above 171, 172, 173?

Marin just seems wide because there are a few cutouts and areas with no street parking. If you removed the
cars on Grove it should look the same.

Columbus is the only wide street because of the old railroad.

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Sommerman wrote:
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At least Columbus is a wide street. This is where the high rises should go, not Marin. Marin is the same width as most residential streets downtown.

I think you're mixing up Manila (Grove) with Marin (Henderson (?))

Nope, not confused. Sixty feet wide.

Just because it's busy doesn't mean Marin is wider than Grove. Pretty sure Grove Street and Marin Blvd. (aka Henderson Street) are the same width.

It might look wider because starting at CC Drive traveling north to Holland Tunnel the west side of Marin has no buildings built up to the sidewalk and also on east side starting at Second Street (for now) - so it gives the impression of being wider.

Wrong. LMM Blvd. is definitely wider than Manila (Grove St.) North of Columbus.

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At least Columbus is a wide street. This is where the high rises should go, not Marin. Marin is the same width as most residential streets downtown.

I think you're mixing up Manila (Grove) with Marin (Henderson (?))

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More chicken little BS. The 38-story tower would be an improvement over what's there already (an auto body shop, and a mess of parked cars) and it will improve the look of the area. As for your wind tunnel complaint, what do you expect?? We live in a windy area. And LMM Blvd is very close to the waterfront, so wind is obviously going to be an issue around there.

I completely agree. Marin is a hideous thoroughfare. When I have friends come to visit my place, I always direct them to walk up Erie or Jersey Ave so they can see how beautiful Harsimus Cove and HP are. But more often than not they walk up Marin and mention how industrial and derelict it looks.

The new high rises already going up are a vast improvement on the empty lots that were there before. Once the empty lot at Marin and Bay and the Budget car rental are developed, and the Shoprite, BBB, Pepboys mega development are finished, Marin will look so much better.

But agree with opposition to a high rise at Barrow and Columbus. VVP, HC & HP's height restrictions should be respected, IMO. The Marin corridor is a different case altogether.

fat-ass-bike wrote:
Its time to change-over the middle managers and planning officers in the planning department of city hall that deal with developers and builders on a daily basis. The culture and inter-personal relationships need to end that have developed over the years, regardless of the Mayoral change.

Many developers and builders I know have been able to manipulate staff at the planning department to the extent that they feel they can step over the mark and do as they please from time to time, as we have seen with this issue.

Sommerman wrote:
Is it the intention that the ground floors of all the new buildings be used as retail and professional space? Isn't that a lot? Will there be any schools on the site?

My understanding is that Shoprite will be offered first dibs on the supermarket space. Have they actually signed on?

donnajc65 wrote:
The buildings are being sold to the firm doing Trump, Kushner/Kabre. The yellow building is all but empty. Price close to 15 million for the two buildings. The sale hasn't closed yet, but a couple of people in the building mentioned to me that they had heard the plan was to take one building down, maybe two. I would assume if the buyers are having conversations with the city about demo, the city would sharing that with the community. We will find out soon enough.

donnajc65 wrote:
With the proposal to add 40+ stories to the Powerhouse building and the prospects of 124-136 Bay Street being proposed for demolition, its time we reflect on why historic preservation is important to our neighborhoods and city. This short Teds talk says it all.

http://uli.org/videos/power-uniqueness/

JGJDNYCJC wrote:
The building on warren never seemed noteworthy to me unlike the 350 warren factory tower across the street that is currently being reno'd.

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What is the advantage of altering the street grid? I don't understand that at all. Makes the development feel like an isolated development versus being integrated into the rest of the city. A really bad idea, seemingly - am I missing something?

Urban renewal of the 1940s-1960s encouraged large chunks of neighborhoods to be sectioned off for one purpose, i.e. WTC, Lincoln Center. The Shoprite complex is not a mid-century product, but its design is. (Re)introducing the street grid has been done whenever possible to these big plots of land.

Maybe we're looking at two different things, but the street grid hasn't been rearranged. Streets have been added to what is now a parking lot. Adding streets is supposed to integrate the section back in to the city ......

CaptainOats wrote:
Does anyone know from previous elections when we can expect returns?

moobycow wrote:
According to the JC redevelopment map it's going to have 14,000sq feet of retail.

http://thejcra.org/jcra_files/File/bi ... n%20Development%20Map.pdf