hero69 wrote:
I hope someone explained to scumbag that he can not keep gifts given to him while president. Somehow i can imagine them in his penthouse.

And what is up with him still doing development business. Isn't that a conflict of interest.

AlexC wrote:
So you consider children who were brought into the US by their parents when they were minor criminals?

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And this us from my link. A shame that you have to resort to your own "facts" to defend criminals:

Improper Entry Is a Crime

To be clear, the most common crime associated with illegal immigration is likely improper entry. Under federal criminal law, it is misdemeanor for an alien (i.e., a non-citizen) to:
Enter or attempt to enter the United States at any time or place other than designated by immigration officers;
Elude examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
Attempt to enter or obtain entry to the United States by willfully concealing, falsifying, or misrepresenting material facts.
The punishment under this federal law is no more than six months of incarceration and up to $250 in civil penalties for each illegal entry. These acts of improper entry -- including the mythic "border jumping" -- are criminal acts associated with illegally immigrating to the United States.

Like all other criminal charges in the United States, improper entry must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict.

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I have had to navigate that mess a few times over the past month and I find it almost unbelievable that after so much time, work and effort, that is the best our the project engineers could envision. There are too many loops, with too many lanes merging and leading to turnoffs, leading to confusion and massive backups at all times. A complete boondoggle, bordering on fraud and dereliction of duty.

It's currently a mess, but it's far from done, so the jury is still out.

jcheights08 wrote:
The best people, JCMan? Like Sarah Palin? Like Steve Bannon? Like Rudy Giuliani? Jeff Sessions?Myron Ebell, a knuckledragger who would head up the EPA but who believes climate change is not real???? Holy Mother of God, if those are "the best people", I am curious to know who the worst people would be.

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I wouldn't invest a dime in that mall until they solve the traffic fustercluck at the intersection of 440 & Communipaw. Northbound backs up all the way to Danforth in the middle of the day.

A simple modern flyover bridge would easily solve that but could you imagine the totally incompetent city planners trying to get that off the ground.

i.e. Observer Hwy + Pulaski Skyway Nightmare.

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Pointing to the popular vote is completely irrelevant, as has already been explained. The only metric that counts is the Electoral College, which was a landslide. Even the liberal Washington Post debunked your little theory.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/th ... t-a-popular-vote-election

I know you're mostly trolling and will never back down on your blind support, but your continued claims that this was a landslide are getting tiresome. He flipped a couple key states.

Donald Trump owes his victory in the Electoral College to the three states he won by the smallest number of votes: Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. So it's fair to say that the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 100,000 votes out of more than 120 million ballots cast.

According to the latest tallies, Trump won Pennsylvania by 1.1 percentage points (68,236 votes), Wisconsin by 0.9 points (27,257 votes), Michigan by 0.2 points (11,837 votes). If Clinton had won all three states, she would have won the Electoral College 278 to 260. She fell short in all three, of course, and that's why we are now getting accustomed to the reality of President-elect Donald J. Trump.

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Caj11, to the extent those stories do not involve bankruptcy, and involve business owners who performed good work (this seems to be disputed in several cases), then I agree there should be no problem paying what you originally agreed. To the extent he was a deadbeat, no one's perfect.

Regarding your second point, I totally disagree, and frankly don't care what the rest of the world thinks. Not sure why anyone would. I care about enforcing the border, helping Americans get put back to work, and fighting against political correctness. From your attitude, it seems you have preconceived notions how his presidency will go, and you may not give him a fair chance. Hopefully you reconsider.

Two things -

1. Do you pay your bills in full and on time? I do. I agree, nobody's perfect, but Trump has story after story of not paying his bills and his imperfections have made lives difficult for a lot of people in New York and New Jersey. They have essentially subsidized Trump's limousines, helicopters, yachts and airplanes. If he has ANY heart at all, he'll sell some of his assets to pay the money he rightfully owes that wasn't discharged in his bankruptcies. I don't care how long ago these debts were incurred - better late than never.

2. Regarding enforcing the border, do you think that his delusional plan to build a wall between the US and Mexico will do much to solve the illegal immigration problem? Even if he is successful in building the wall, then many of the undesirables will just stay here rather than go back to Mexico after they've earned enough money. The porous border between the US and Mexico is not an ideal situation, but I think a wall would probably make things worse. Furthermore, if Trump has such a problem with illegals WHY did he hire them when he was building the Trump Tower?

http://time.com/4465744/donald-trump-undocumented-workers/

Or at his modeling agency?

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/08/31 ... egal-immigrants/21463003/

Seems like it's all right for him to use illegals when it benefits him personally, but when he runs for and becomes President, he advocates for their deportation because of course that's the ideal political stance. I'm sure there are still illegals working in his hotels and resorts today - you are never going to staff your entire housekeeping department without them. Talk about hypocrisy.

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Stringer wrote:

Fulop: despite Trump, Jersey City remains 'welcoming' to immigrants

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
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on November 15, 2016 at 1:11 PM, updated November 15, 2016 at 2:06 PM

JERSEY CITY — Mayor Steve Fulop today joined a chorus of Democratic mayors nationwide who have tried to reassure immigrants rattled over last week's election of Donald J. Trump as president, saying the city will remain a so-called "sanctuary city" for undocumented residents.

"Jersey City remains the golden door to this country for immigrants and that will not change despite a change in the presidency," Fulop said in a statement. "Our policies, principles and our city, as a whole, will remain a welcoming community for immigrants and families."

Read more:  http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... y_will_remain_a_welc.html

I am very proud of our Mayor!

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hero69 wrote:
Scumbag wants top security clearance for his children. wtf

So someone says he wants to make America great and you call him a scumbag.

Some of us judge him by what he has done, like leaving a trail of stiffed contractors, bankruptcies, and molested women, rather than what he says he will do.

Regarding the stiffed contractors and bankruptcies, I've been to a few friends' BBQs in central and southern Jersey, and I met more than one family who went without a Christmas after the Taj Mahal filed bankruptcy, because their family run businesses had been sub-contractors or vendors for that property. Most got around 33 cents on the dollar of what they were owed if they were lucky. Many long-time family owned small contractor businesses were simply ruined after Trump used the bankruptcy process to weasel out of paying what he rightfully owed. Despite all those families being ruined and going to work for other contractors or any menial job they could get, do you think Trump ever stopped riding around in his limousines, yachts and helicopters after the Taj's three separate bankruptcies? I doubt it. His lifestyle was not affected.

It's not just this that matters though - Trump has zero elected experience. He is as qualified to run this country as Jesse Jackson was when he ran in 1984. If you're going to run for the most powerful elected office in the world, you should have *some* lower office experience first - you don't need to be a career politician like Bernie Sanders, but at least one lower level elected office would be nice.

hero69 wrote:
Scumbag wants top security clearance for his children. wtf

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Dolomiti, Don't forget Giuliani cleaned up NYC. It's probably the reason you live in Jersey City today.

The Giuliani broken windows theory has pretty much been discredited by academics. It's controversial at best. But if you want, keep on believing.

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The divisive media you consume is far more subversive and dangerous. Breitbart makes its biases clear from the bat.

But your sources spread dangerous misinformation, such as the list of fake hate crimes allegedly committed by Trump supporters, never mentions when they have been confirmed fake, never mentions the worse beatings that Trump supporters have received from violent Hillary supporters, and never calls on Hillary or Obama to denounce the violence committed by her side.

In this way, "educated" people such as yourself end up with a dangerously slanted view of reality, but think you are informed. This only furthers our divisions.

hero69 wrote:
So when does trump sign those trade deals?any guesses?

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Energy, too. I get it - liberals are condescending and non-inclusive. But the risks of know-nothingism are far more tangible and dangerous.

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fraulein wrote:
So much for draining the swamp...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/us/ ... smid=nytcore-iphone-share

don't panic, stay calm! democarts and others will have a chance to take back both houses in 2018 and the presidency in 2020 if they get their messaging and policies better aligned with what americans view as in their interest. hillary was ultimately done in by a 1,000 litle cuts that democrats were not paying attention to - they should have paid attention to the brexit vote.

hero69 wrote:
so trump is no longer calling for a ban on muslims entering the us...i bet some of the alt-right are very upset.

i can't wait until 2020! hopefully, more people will see through the lies by then.

stillinjc wrote:
I am reading more and more reports that it is impossible that all the polls were wrong. It is very likely that they were simply doctored by insiders who were sympathetic to Clinton. That is what Trump meant when he said RIGGED!

neverleft wrote:
Gee there are massive protests in front of Trump Tower in NYC and in Chicago by angry young Clinton supporters.
Hmm I thought the left and the media said Trump supporters were going to protest and riot if he lost.

People take to the streets after Trump win

(CNN)Thousands of protesters targeted Trump buildings in New York and Chicago on Wednesday, chanting anti-Trump slogans as protests against President-elect Donald Trump popped up throughout the United States.

In Austin, Texas, protesters blocked a highway. Students burned a flag on the campus of American University in Washington, and they walked out of class in high schools and colleges across the country the day after the presidential election.

"Not my president, not today," was a chant heard at protests from Boston to Los Angeles.

In downtown Los Angeles, high school students crowded the steps of City Hall on Wednesday afternoon. Protester Brooklyn White was holding a sign that said "Hate won't win." The 18 year old voted for Hillary Clinton and was disappointed.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/politic ... action-streets/index.html

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Trump defeated:

1. Hillary Clinton
2. Bill Clinton
3. Barack Obama
4. Michelle Obama
5. CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC , SNL, NY Times, Washington Post, Huffington Post - you get the picture
6. Lady Gaga, Bruce Springsteen, Barbra Streisand, Jay-Z, Madonna, Katy Perry - you get the picture
7. Hollywood
8. Silicon Valley
9. Wall Street
10. Democratic establishment
11. Republican establishment
12. Pollsters

This is truly amazing. It shows how resilient American democracy is. Despite such massive effort by the ruling privileged class, Trump was elected. I hope the Secret Service keeps him safe.

I would like to give honorable recognition to JC List Bloggers who drank the Clinton koolaid with gusto, Bodhipooh, Grove Path, Manu, Hero69, User1111, Asif, Drifterx, Fat-ass-bike (occasionally, though I do appreciate Stein Rants) and of course #1 Pebbles who always claimed to be an impartial observer.

Most over used drinking word.... tied... Racist or Adolph

Best quote of the election cycle CatDog responding to JCMan8 about Trump polling

What an absolute joke. Is this also how Trump conducts his polling? By interviewing a few dozen people that he meets and concluding that he will win 100% of the vote?
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Uhhhh... Yes that is how he did it! At least in Florida, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and hopefully Michigan

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surprised to see so many trump supporters on jclist! yikes

T-Bird wrote:
#draintheswamp? #burnitdown? Hardly. Of the 392 house members running for re-election, only 8 seats flipped to the other party. One senate seat (maybe 2, depending on the NH outcome.) That's 10 out of 426 - Washington is "the swamp" and nothing is more disliked than congress, yet nothing changed.

Last night was a repudiation of HRC (and Bill) and to a much lesser extent, the President. I was grateful not to have to vote for her, given my confidence that Trump wouldn't win NJ. Clinton was a historically bad candidate and I truly believe any other Democrat would have won last night, including Sanders - although she will still end up winning the popular vote. Trump would not have won PA, MI or probably WI against virtually anyone else.

This really is no mass uprising or a mandate or anything of the sort - it is just another example of how deeply divided the country is.

AlexC wrote:
If he wins, I hope you Trump supporters cashed in your IRA or SEP's or any stocks you have that are based on the Dow, SP500 or NASDAQ

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I hope to GOD he is our next president.

Hillary was a heavy favorite so I won't get too excited until he hits 270. But Trump is looking good so far.

A clear demonstration that the American people have risen up against "progressives," the bullshit they spew in our media, and political correctness. If he wins, it will be one of the greatest days in American history. Certainly the most rapid and unexpected political rise in American history.