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Re: A Case Study in What's wrong with JC Real Estate:
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wibbit wrote:
i cannot believe you people are still debating this. We had the same discussion 1 year ago, then 6 months ago. And the same bunch of people are still covering their ears screaming buy buy buy every time as the market continues to drop.

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At the end of the day like investing in anything, it is a gamble. Timing the bottom or top is very hard to do and should not be expected. If you are looking long term, and assume that historical trends are reliable to use as your guide, RE investment when done with intelligence is a winner.

If you look at performance versus investing in the S&P the return is pretty comparable when factoring in the recent crash(S&P @ 820 right now), its also been much less volatile. (last statement loosely based off of this graph: http://www.forbes.com/2005/05/26/cx_s ... sSpeed=65000&boxes=custom). You also get benefits like living in your investment versus lining your clothes and burning stocks for warmth.

I am sure financial experts can go all day on this, I am also sure nobody knows the outcome of our current economic situation. Good luck!

Posted on: 2009/1/26 21:06
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Re: A Case Study in What's wrong with JC Real Estate:
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ianmac47 wrote:
Anecdotal evidence might suggest rents in New York are still going up, but on average, have already started falling.

More importantly, rental agreements are most often for incremental terms of 1 or 2 or more full years. The mass layoffs really only began in earnest in the autumn, so many people probably still have several more months left on existing leases before they begin to downsize. Also as far as sales in New York, Wall Street gave themselves plenty of bonses in 2007, which sort of kept metro area real estate going longer than the rest of the country through the early part of 2008. Bonuses this year were slim to non-existent. A lot of leases come up in the summer months. The collapse of the New York metro real estate market is only going to accelerate through this year, whether its rental prices or sales prices.


I think there was also foreign real estate investment happening at the same time lasting into 2008 when the dollar was really weak. In JC, not Omaha.

I would imagine that has also dried up a bit. Scary times.

Posted on: 2009/1/26 17:14
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Re: A Case Study in What's wrong with JC Real Estate:
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SLyng wrote:
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But to me, I'd rather have the piece of mind to know that a) my money is in a bank rather than a real estate investment, b) my monthly payment is fixed and not at the whim of the City (taxes) or a Condo Board (maintenance). That's got to be worth something, right? But, what do I know, I'm just a dumb renter -- Right JCSHEP?


SLyng, i dont know you so i cant pass judgment with respect to the possibility of you being ?dumb?, or a renter. I am not sure why you asked me that/assumed I thought that.

What happened in Hoboken with taxes is scary, which is why places with long tax abatements can be attractive to those who worry about variable tax costs...

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The market can be seriously out of wack. Would you not agree that in the Sring of 2006, the market was out of wack? Or was it just not opimtized for certain people? Under what set of conditions does it make sense to buy at the beginning of the collapse of the real estate bubble?



I don?t claim to be a RE expert so I will tell you what I *think*. I think there were areas in the US (FL, CA for example) which saw major increases in RE during the bubble. In these areas the increases were not realistic and potentially may not have been realistic even without the subprime loan debacle. These areas are seeing the largest corrections. So in 2006 the market was out of wack, but to a wildly varying degree depending on the location.

There are a number of conditions where I would have bought in 06. A substantial pre-construction price, a distressed seller, insight into an upcoming area, visibility to a substantial change in an area...etc. Don?t overlook what drove a number of home purchases the: someone moving, selling a home somewhere and buying another one, in theory the inflated prices are a wash for them as they could have sold at a high point too. I dont see how it wouldnt make sense to remain in the RE market once you own and are simply switching properties...unless you can accurately predict the amount of the downturn, factor in how much equity you have...project future rent rates...etc and we are back to the beginning of my initial comment.

Posted on: 2009/1/26 17:06
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Re: A Case Study in What's wrong with JC Real Estate:
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If you factor in taxes, mortgage, HO fees, tax refunds, rent, rent increases, your $$, ect. and the calc says renting makes sense?AND you dont think the property will appreciate, then rent. This doesn?t mean the market is out of wack, this means the market is not optimized for you. You may or may not be representative of the market, please don?t be bitter with economics. Other people may have a different financial profile where buying makes sense. I hear housing prices have come down in some parts of JC, not all. If it has decreased it was MUCH less than if you had invested in the markets. I am bullish on JC for a long term investment, it is a no brainer. I wish I had $$ to buy up places and rent like the RE Agent above.

Posted on: 2009/1/26 14:44
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Re: Bergen Lafayette: Shots kill during daytime robbery at bodega by "young adults"
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I hate the animals in this city. Acts like this destroy compasion for the deprived areas of JC.

Posted on: 2009/1/23 15:25
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Re: We can thank our Mayor for the crime problem in Jersey City
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Really, on average every day 3 cars get stolen!?

Posted on: 2009/1/20 19:38
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Re: We can thank our Mayor for the crime problem in Jersey City
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You got one side of the story. Remember, there is always the other side, and then there is the truth.

Posted on: 2009/1/19 21:54
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Re: Lafayette Community -Not taking it anymore!
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The cops, neighborhood, and justice system are end of pipe solutions, necessary solutions but still end of pipe. The source is a terrible what I will call ?inner-city young American culture? and bad parenting. Taking a look at the role models who cater to these youths?the people in the music industry and many sports stars. When you look at how the idols act it sends a scary message about what the kids aspire to be. I am not saying I know how to solve it, just trying to put blame where I think blame should be. The root problem is with the people who are making the mess, not the ones tasked with cleaning it up.

Posted on: 2009/1/15 17:12
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Re: Those who work here in JC could get down-payment help as an incentive to buy home here
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Damn, i wish i knew about this a few years ago.

Posted on: 2009/1/9 16:17
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Re: Morning Murder at LSP Light Rail Station
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fat-ass-bike wrote:
But doesn't NJ Transit have use of NJ Transit Cops and Ticket Inspectors?
Was not the dreadful crime commited on NJ Transit owned property?
Is NJ Transit a private enterprise or government run service?
Was there no concerns about the safety for commuters at Liberty State Park station, which is also a tourist stop for the Science Center - is there any history of crime and was there any coorespondence for such a concern?

Like most government departments, they demand full authority and control without the accountability. Greed for $'s before service once again!


I agree this is a tragedy, and a terrible one! I dont agree NJT or whoever operates the light rail is responsible for it, and that is just my opinion. It is impossible to foresee everything that can go wrong and even more impossible to logistically or financially prevent all the possibilities from happening. It would be another story if NJT in some way facilitated this attack, but they didn?t. I guess I see pegging NJT with any responsibility for this like blaming the hotel and other establishments in India for not preventing the recent terrorist attacks that occured on thier grounds.

This is the real world, not a bubble, terrible things like this happen, you have to do your best to try to avoid them. Have personal accountability and don?t depend on others for your safety. Unfortunately with this situation there was nothing the victim could have done.

Posted on: 2009/1/7 23:38
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Re: Morning Murder at LSP Light Rail Station
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fat-ass-bike wrote:
I find it hard to believe that some would see that NJ Transit is void of any responsibility or duty of care to their patrons.

On any building site, it is the responsibility of the contractor / developer to provide a safe working area of all and either keep out the public or provide that same care.
If works are carried out on a private residents, then the owner of the building is liable for any accidents - if it is a high crime area then a security guard is employed or a 'cop' to direct traffic.


NJ Transit is in the business of providing transit. JC police are in the business of providing security to people in JC. NJ transit however does actually have thier own police force for some reason. I would be afraid if NJT was to be held accountable for security around it's facilities it would simply lead to service restrictions in some areas, and prevent service extentions to high crime areas.

Posted on: 2009/1/7 20:11
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Re: A tax-free reimbursement of $240 per year - just for riding your bike to work?
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devbeep wrote:
....Get used to doing normal shit like grocery shopping, riding your bike to bars (especially Hoboken.. cabs to Maxwell's/DC's/wherever get tiresome very quickly....


Be careful drunken biking.

I dont know how reliable it is but the Q&A below is from this site : http://www.newjerseydwi.com/qa.htm

Question:

"Here is a question that someone asked me, and frankly I couldn't give him an answer. He asked if someone was riding a bicycle under the influence...could that person be charged for a DWI just as if they were driving a car?"

Answer:

In State v. Machuzak, 227 N.J. Super. 279 (Law Div. 1988), the Court (Somerset County) held that the DWI Statute (NJSA 394-50) clearly did not apply to non-motorized bicycles. A Cumberland Superior Court also held that the Statute was not applicable - see State v. Johnson, 203 N.J. Super. 436 (Law Div. 1985). However, in State v. Tehan, 190 N.J. Super. 348 (Law Div. 1982), a Court (in Somerset County) found that a bicyclist could be found guilty of DWI, although the license revocation could not be imposed.

Until a higher Court in New Jersey rules on the issue, technically, the issue is unfortunately, not clearly answered. Where as here, there are conflicting Law Division Decisions (the Courts above the lower Municipal Courts), the issue is technically regarded as unresolved, although the Machuzak and Johnson decisions appear better-reasoned that the Tehan ruling.

Posted on: 2009/1/6 20:14
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Re: Federal stimulus package could fund Light Rail extensions and to fix bridges -- aiding economy.
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I was a little miffed when i heard the stimulus was going to road/highway projects, i didnt hear about potential rail projects until this. Effective public transportation is embarrassingly lacking in this country. I think it is the wrong decision to build any infrastructure that promotes further sprawl, and will prove difficult to maintain. I have to admit tho, i have not yet had the time to read past the headlines for the proposed stimulus package.

Posted on: 2009/1/6 16:23
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Re: Property taxes/maintenance fees for condos/townhouses in JC?
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I have lived outside the tri-state area before and am glad to be back. This place is very unique, if you love it here it's worth every penny. If you are here only because of your job and are indifferent to the area, I feel for you. You should look at moving, you may be happier elsewhere.

Posted on: 2009/1/6 16:10
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Re: Property taxes/maintenance fees for condos/townhouses in JC?
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I have a 30 year tax abatement. The tax abatements/PILOTS are immune to any upcoming tax re-evaluation, correct?

Posted on: 2009/1/5 21:44
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Re: Great Depression II
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linky wrote:
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Would a true free marketer give an enormous government loan to businesses which are failing due to their own greed, and stupidity? I wonder if Re.agan would have voted for these bailouts, and I think he wouldn't.

I think Reagan would have agreed with me and let the chips fall where they will.

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Bingo! I don?t necessarily agree with Reganomics but I do agree that free markets and capitalism have gone out the window with all this. To go a step further, take a hard look at the laws we have, versus the laws in other first world countries, the principals the US was founded upon have eroded a bit.

Posted on: 2008/12/30 15:46
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Re: Great Depression II
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linky wrote:

yeah, I hear ya. Years ago, when I was working as a teacher, my financial world friends were all sitting around the kitchen table in my apartment talking about their Christmas bonuses and what they planned to do with them. My roommate planned to go on a sailing trip, one was buying furniture, and others were paying off the big credit card bills they had run up on stuff like expensive clothing and meals out.

I said, " You guys wanna see my bonus, and proceeded to pull out a pencil engraved with " Happy Holidays from *****Middle School". It was all very funny, but is it fair? I say, " What goes around comes around".


Right on, when times were good, people in that sector reaped these obnoxious bonus amounts and for what?
Give me a break, no one feels bad for any of these institutions or its employees!!!


I agree for some but not for my friends in the finance industry who have support positions at these firms. Think things like IT, HR, ect. their payscale is only slightly higher than if they had a position at a non-finance firm. I think all of the finance buildings in Jersey City dubbed "Wall Street West" housed support operations.

Posted on: 2008/12/29 21:59
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Re: 10 Ugly Buildings JERSEY CITY Would Be Better Off Without
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I nominate the recently completed circular PATH entrance at Grove street. It was just built but it looks like it is circa 1981. I waited eagerly for them to finish that structure, than i realized it was finished.

Posted on: 2008/12/29 20:07
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Re: JC Schools Report Card - Of Sorts - And It's AWFUL
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greenville wrote:
Education starts at home, if your not educated by your parents you'll have trouble trying to learn from a stranger. Too many parents in this city have bad luck, didn't try hard enough to get a good job that would let them have more time, are too stupid, are criminals, or/and have made too many mistakes in their lives including having kids to care about their kids education.


Pretty rough...................but I taught Elementary School Basic Skills Math and Reading, and I have to admit that it's true.

I'll have to add to it and say that to truly value education one must come from a family and community which values education.


No way! Have you thought about first blaming everyone/everything besides yourself? Afterall, we all know nobody is accountable for thier own actions/outcomes.

Posted on: 2008/12/22 15:26
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Thanks for clearing some of that up. I was completely ignorant to rent control in JC, I had to look it up. I think i may have been able to complain legitimately about yearly increases i paid had i known about this!

And I didnt know that schools never realized any PILOT revenues: http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... xes_plan_to_share_ab.html

Posted on: 2008/12/19 16:19
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Yvonne wrote:
I just want to correct a statement-People living in 5 or more stories, except new construction, is under rent control. Rent control sets the standard each year on how much taxes can be passed on to tenants. For example, in 2005, when the city gave property owners a 18% tax increase, rent-control tenants could only receive a 4% rent increase.
Also, the tax agreement between the housing authority and city states the city can collect 10% each year for taxes. However, the housing authority can deduct water and utilities from the 10%. The city stopped receiving money from the housing authority since the late 1960's. This is why I am a believer in a city income tax. Good people from various parts of the city work, pay taxes to the state and feds but contribute nothing to Jersey City. Only the small homeowner (1-4 families) support the city, schools, and county. If you don't support the city, you are indifferent to political corruption because you don't pay.
Yvonne


I was not able to decipher much of your correction.

-I have lived in 3 different high rise buildings in JC, each one over 5 stories tall. 2 of these buildings were NOT new construction and were NOT under rent control so i am not sure what you mean by your disorienting opening "sentence".

-Trying to stitch together your points above...are you saying that people in housing authority buildings dont contribute to JC taxes and therefore are indifferent to political corruption?

Posted on: 2008/12/19 14:48
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Re: Greenville: Boy beaten, shot by a group of boys who wanted to know "where he was from"
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These people are animals. It doesn?t make me think much of the entire area considering that per this report nobody stepped in to help, rather the second group of local degenerates brought guns.

Posted on: 2008/12/19 14:31
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Re: Jersey City mayor releases Christmas music CD
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designknob wrote:
What an absolute jackass this guy is.


Says a web poster from "Jupiter" with a jogging snot as his avatar....just kidding.

Posted on: 2008/12/18 21:48
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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@ mrrodgers, they didnt ask about Fulup at all

@ Yvonne and I heard they were supposed to only put tolls on the GSP until they re-couped construction costs....

Anyone living anywhere in JC is contributing a lot of tax money to the local schools so long as they are not in subsidized places. The money comes either directly from property taxes for owners or indirectly by paying rent...then the landlord pays property taxes. The waterfront was vacant lots, contributing little or no tax revenue. Now its high-rises with EACH building housing hundreds of people who contribute thousands of $$?s individually per year to JC. Going a step further, my hunch is these folks are not sending their children (which many dont have) to JC public schools, yet most of the money they contribute goes to that. This seems to be one side of the argument I hear surrounding the ?developing areas? in JC, it makes a lot of sense to me, but i would like to understand the other side a bit better.

Posted on: 2008/12/18 14:42
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Re: Great Depression II
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Br6dR wrote:

This is something I was pondering a few years back. (Before our current Ronald Regan fueled crisis blew up in our faces.) That being how would we get out of another great depression? Would you like to hear my thoughts on this? Of course you would.

Yeah, manufacturing war stuff got us back on the fiscal track, but what turned us into an economic super power (hence military super power... $ = dominance) was manufacturing stuff after the war ended and having the money to buy that stuff.

The Republican mantra has been that free trade is great, Walmart is great, unions are bad.

How are we going to manufacture and then buy our way out of a great depression if we no longer manufacture anything? If Republicans are successful in their quest to lower the wage of blue collar Americans, how can we compete with 3rd world nations other than becoming a 3rd world nation ourselves?

For you take a "shower before work" folks, what will your services be worth if there is no money left to pay your salaries? (If the blue collar folks are no longer making enough money to do anything other than survive.)

The is the drain I've watched Republicans trying to take us down. (And succeeding.) It's a religion to them. They don't think it through. (Even Republicans I know that are highly intelligent.) All they know, all that feels good to know is that everything that smells of liberal is bad.

I'll say it again, how will we continue to be a super power when we no longer manufacture anything? When the wages of American workers laps into a vicious cycle of who is willing to work for less to buy food for their family this week? John Steinbeck asked that question 70 years ago and it's a question that's just as valid today.


Its a tuff one, the other side of the coin is how can any company compete globally or even domestically in a market where other companies exist with much lower compensation costs? Then what happens?

Posted on: 2008/12/17 23:38
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Re: Great Depression II
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i wouldn't use the word "hyperbole" when comparing today's economic crisis with "The Great Depression" of 1929-39. it's more just that no word will really fit, but comparisons can be made.

it's certainly not just media hype. things are very different than they have been before. i cannot get a full-time job in the career path that i have over 30 years' experience in. the number of craigslist ads for shares seem to have doubled. not only are people doing 2 and 3 part-time jobs, but also people in corporate settings are doing 2 and 3 people's work.

experienced folks are being hit with substantial paycuts. a friend of mine is a senior documentation architect with IBM and her pay is being cut 14%, take it or leave it. a few months ago, that could never have flown. another person i know just had his pay cut too, substantively enough that he has to sublet his apartment and rent a share for himself. this means that layoffs are not reducing payroll costs enough so the reductions are reaching up into middle management levels. they can't afford to lose the employee, but they can't afford to pay them either.

not media hype.


What industries are these people in? Most of my friends are in the corporate world in JC or NYC, the only ones hit work(ed) for finance companies. I am just now starting to see signs of it hitting other industries, but not nearly as hard...at least yet. I am anxious about 09.

Posted on: 2008/12/17 23:32
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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I just got a market research call, long survey about the mayoral race and my opinions. I was dissapointed Fulop wasnt part of any choice, has an impact for me if he runs.

Posted on: 2008/12/17 23:28
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Re: Water in Jersey City, Hoboken tested high for turbidity, increased chance disease-carrying organisms
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mfadam wrote:
I'm curious do people around downtown JC worry about the water? I use a Brita, but have no idea what all that really does.

Do any of you not trust United and actually buy bottled water?


I dont know if this is still true but as of 6-7 years ago federal clean water drinking standards for municipal providers were STRICTER than bottled water standards. The regulation was stricter also.

and

"It is estimated that about 25 percent of the bottled waters consumed in the U.S. come from municipal water supplies..........Read the label carefully. If it is packaged as "purified" or "drinking water," chances are it came from a municipal water supply, and unless the water has been ?substantially? altered, it must state on the label that the water comes from a municipal source."

From here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5467759/

Posted on: 2008/12/17 14:52
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Re: Need Help with Marketing a JSQ Apartment. Any suggestions or refferals?
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devbeep wrote:
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devbeep wrote:
What's with all these people that only bother to stop by JCLIST and register when they have a problem? Go to yahoo answers if you want to be a parasite.


Both my husband and I work full time demanding jobs; we are raising a 2 year old boy and managing 5 properties with a total of 14 units. If the fact that I am not an internerd and can monitor and contribute to blogs and forums regularly makes me a parasite then so be it. Thanks for the insult you internerd. BTW...how do I find Yahoo answers?

Seriously thanks to all of the people that offered real advice.


My point was that this is a community forum, not the Homework Hotline.

Want some real advice?

THE RENT IS TOO HIGH. I pay less than that for a large 2 bedroom downtown. Nobody is calling because people are wising up to the fact that JSQ is still kind of a dump and will be for the foreseeable future.

I hope this helps, since you're soooooo busy :*(

PS - "internerd?" Let me guess...

You: Hmm.. what should I call this mean guy on this site?
Two year old: *drools* INTOONERRRD
You: YES!


Oh so when people ask How to get rid of a mouse or What is worse luxury condos or hipsters that is appropriate dialogue? But when I ask advice about renting an apartment in JC my question qualifies as the homework hotline? Who crowned you the king of the message board? Why are you so judgmental?

Actually the term internerd was coined by the Emmy, Golden Globe and SAG Award winner Tina Fey. Not my two year old, you wise guy.

BTW?my original request was not for a pricing strategy, it was for a marketing strategy. I have had a few graduate and undergraduate Economics classes and I do understand the fundamentals of supply and demand economics. I figured out the pricing thing myself, thank you very much.

Again thanks to everyone who actually contributed with out giving a dose of acerbic commentary.


I agree with Dev.B your price is very high for JSQ unless it is super exceptional in some way. I recently lived (and still know the people living) in a HUGE very nice 3BR less than a block from Grove St, rent is $2050/mo total. For those asking where: morgan st lofts. Given it is one of the best deals i have seen yet...which is why I lived there for years.

So if you need marketing advice, put front and center in your ad what differentiates your unit justifying the price. If nothing is there, re-evaluate the application of your academic "economic" theory.

Posted on: 2008/12/8 17:24
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Re: Cordero kids throwing rocks
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billyboi wrote:
.....Jersey City is not a dangerous city! 95% of the kids are harmless.....


So then what are the other 5% or 1 in 20?

Posted on: 2008/12/5 13:45
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