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Re: Obscure question: The old bridge piers north of the Richard St HBLR stop
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When the light rail tracks were heavy rail (passenger/freight) there were a number of steel truss bridges that crossed the tracks. You can find the remains of a few in that area. They're about a hundred years old, but look older because of the use of ashlar stones.


Makes sense. That's probably what they were.

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When the light rail tracks were heavy rail (passenger/freight) there were a number of steel truss bridges that crossed the tracks. You can find the remains of a few in that area. They're about a hundred years old, but look older because of the use of ashlar stones.

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yeah that is a great JC pic site.

I think that evalvated roadway in the picture you pointed out is rt-78. Maybe that loop to the left is where the rest stops were.

Those rest stops are long gone but the roads to them are still there. The guys doing the work on the extension bridge use it for parking, etc

I also remember the user stillinjc talking about the mess that was once Liberty National Golf Course. I knew it was build on bad soil from the Standard Oil Refinery. I found this little piece on it.

Ten years ago, the land on which Liberty now stands was a toxic moonscape of corroded oil tanks, contaminated soil, and rusting warehouses. The site has been home to a major Standard Oil refinery, a WWII munitions storage facility, an Italian internment camp and, most recently, an industrial wasteland.

Fireman tells me that previous landowners include both Rockefellers and Gambinos.

"Are any Gambinos members?" I ask.




I remember reading how some JC Italian Americans use to go and help out at the camp. I will see if I can find the JJ piece about them. Interesting.


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I don?t know if you ever saw this guy wavz?s collection of JC pictures. (it was posted here an JCList somewhere)

It is hard to believe what was once on the Greenville and Downtown waterfronts. Nothing but rail yards that were originally salt mashes.

That concrete thing you see on the LR is probably one of the countless long gone train trestles. (nice at least something was saved)

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/wavz13/s ... 2579761251/detail/?page=3


PS ? I think I mentioned this before but do you see that space on 78 with all of the construction trucks? That used to be a full rest stop. There was one on each side of 78. Had to close it because it was getting raided by the thugs from JC.

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I just realized I posted the same pics you did. To many beers. I'll look for the 78 rest area when I pass by on the light rail.

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are you talking about caven point pier which went out into the hudson river about a mile or so?

I vaguely remember coming across a short story set during the 1960's about a Cadillac being driven off it.


Could be. I don't know what they supported.

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are you talking about caven point pier which went out into the hudson river about a mile or so?

I vaguely remember coming across a short story set during the 1960's about a Cadillac being driven off it.

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Does this pic answer my question? Are those bridge piers part of that elevated road you see in the middle of this picture? Or is that in the wrong place?

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2800/4061450777_a35e8181b8.jpg
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Great pics.

These are pre-WTC pics from the 60s but there are also JC waterfront pics from that time.

http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/wavz13/4258830687/

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I don?t know if you ever saw this guy wavz?s collection of JC pictures. (it was posted here an JCList somewhere)

It is hard to believe what was once on the Greenville and Downtown waterfronts. Nothing but rail yards that were originally salt mashes.

That concrete thing you see on the LR is probably one of the countless long gone train trestles. (nice at least something was saved)

Enjoy:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wavz13/s ... 2579761251/detail/?page=3


PS ? I think I mentioned this before but do you see that space on 78 with all of the construction trucks? That used to be a full rest stop. There was one on each side of 78. Had to close it because it was getting raided by the thugs from JC.

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Great Question, I usually walk across those tracks to walk my dogs and often asked myself the same thing. I will ask some of my neighbors this weekend, some of them have been living there since the mid 60's, so maybe they will know.

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I doubt anyone will know the answer to this.

As you leave the Richard St HBLR stop heading toward Jersey City, just to the east are what look to be ancient bridge piers. I often wonder what they were for.

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