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I'll defend civil rights until I'm blue in the face, but there's a FINE LINE, and if you ask me, these assholes cross it on the regular.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY ARE PROTESTING IN FRONT OF A HIGH SCHOOL. WHY?


We are playing right into their hand. They are winning! They are ridiculous and offensive and downright insane but they want us to talk about them and get mad at them and put them in our line of fire (figurative, of course).

By protesting in front of an urban high school with a track record of violence, they are just increasing the likelihood that they will somehow be victimized, by teenagers, no less.

It's a publicity coup. And that's their whole point.

Gross gross gross. Gross. Double gross. Yet legal, for now at least.

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If schools were privatized, they wouldn't be able to protest there. Just sayin.


Yes, and if the streets were paved with gold...sigh.

But it does make me wonder if there is not a law on the books that prohibits protests within a certain distance from a public school. And/or there is bound to be a sexual predator in the group who isn't allowed to be there. Just a guess.

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How thick is your skull.

I'll type it in all caps, maybe you just can't read lowercase yet?



You don't need to type in caps. I clearly understand your point. You don't need to insult, either. Your points should be able to stand alone, without insults.

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IT'S NOT THE SPEECH I DISAGREE WITH, THESE PEOPLE CAN THINK WHATEVER STUPID, HATEFUL, ASSBACKWARDS HOMOPHOBIC BULLSHIT AND ANTI-SEMITIC POPPYCOCK THEY WANT. I KNOW THEY'RE FULL OF SHIT SO WHATEVER.

THE SECOND THEY ARE PROTESTING AT THE FUNERAL OF SOMEONE WHO HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO PROTEST; THE SECOND THEY ARE INFRINGING UPON THE PEACE OF OTHERS IN A TIME WHEN THEY ARE DEALING WITH THE LOSS OF A LOVED ONE, THAT, THAT MY FRIEND, IS WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM.


This is still protected speech, whether you like it or not.

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If you counter protest with a great deal of humor, it kind of makes them look stupid. Like this.

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How thick is your skull.

I'll type it in all caps, maybe you just can't read lowercase yet?

IT'S NOT THE SPEECH I DISAGREE WITH, THESE PEOPLE CAN THINK WHATEVER STUPID, HATEFUL, ASSBACKWARDS HOMOPHOBIC BULLSHIT AND ANTI-SEMITIC POPPYCOCK THEY WANT. I KNOW THEY'RE FULL OF SHIT SO WHATEVER.

THE SECOND THEY ARE PROTESTING AT THE FUNERAL OF SOMEONE WHO HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO PROTEST; THE SECOND THEY ARE INFRINGING UPON THE PEACE OF OTHERS IN A TIME WHEN THEY ARE DEALING WITH THE LOSS OF A LOVED ONE, THAT, THAT MY FRIEND, IS WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM.

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I'll defend civil rights until I'm blue in the face, but there's a FINE LINE, and if you ask me, these assholes cross it on the regular.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY ARE PROTESTING IN FRONT OF A HIGH SCHOOL. WHY?


We are playing right into their hand. They are winning! They are ridiculous and offensive and downright insane but they want us to talk about them and get mad at them and put them in our line of fire (figurative, of course).

By protesting in front of an urban high school with a track record of violence, they are just increasing the likelihood that they will somehow be victimized, by teenagers, no less.

It's a publicity coup. And that's their whole point.

Gross gross gross. Gross. Double gross. Yet legal, for now at least.

Barf.


If schools were privatized, they wouldn't be able to protest there. Just sayin.

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Well that's because I still don't feel they are acting within the confines of what the first amendment says. I still don't feel there is anything peaceful regarding assembling at the funeral of a soldier who sacrificed his life for something he believes in (something I don't even agree with). The family is in the midst of going through a great deal of loss, and they shouldn't have these people all up their asses.


No, you just don't agree with the 1st amendment. Speech you don't agree with is still protected.

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I'll defend civil rights until I'm blue in the face, but there's a FINE LINE, and if you ask me, these assholes cross it on the regular.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY ARE PROTESTING IN FRONT OF A HIGH SCHOOL. WHY?


We are playing right into their hand. They are winning! They are ridiculous and offensive and downright insane but they want us to talk about them and get mad at them and put them in our line of fire (figurative, of course).

By protesting in front of an urban high school with a track record of violence, they are just increasing the likelihood that they will somehow be victimized, by teenagers, no less.

It's a publicity coup. And that's their whole point.

Gross gross gross. Gross. Double gross. Yet legal, for now at least.

Barf.

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Well that's because I still don't feel they are acting within the confines of what the first amendment says. I still don't feel there is anything peaceful regarding assembling at the funeral of a soldier who sacrificed his life for something he believes in (something I don't even agree with). The family is in the midst of going through a great deal of loss, and they shouldn't have these people all up their asses.

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No no no. What I WOULD like is to see a group of intelligent and DEFINITELY humorous people to go down and drown them out.

Fight fire with fire. Cliche, I know.


Ok, fine. That's not what it seemed like when you said: "First amendment right, schmirst amendment right."

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No no no. What I WOULD like is to see a group of intelligent and DEFINITELY humorous people to go down and drown them out.

Fight fire with fire. Cliche, I know.

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And if I don't speak my mind, well, to hell with MY first amendment rights, correct? OK.


Of course you can, no one said you couldn't. It seemed as though you wanted to prevent some from being able to use their right to speak, which would be incorrect.

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And if I don't speak my mind, well, to hell with MY first amendment rights, correct? OK.

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I'll defend civil rights until I'm blue in the face, but there's a FINE LINE, and if you ask me, these assholes cross it on the regular.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY ARE PROTESTING IN FRONT OF A HIGH SCHOOL. WHY?


Yeah, you'll defend until it's a group that you disagree with.

Anyways, you don't have to defend it -- you just have to recognize that you have no right to infringe another's right to speak.

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I'll defend civil rights until I'm blue in the face, but there's a FINE LINE, and if you ask me, these assholes cross it on the regular.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY ARE PROTESTING IN FRONT OF A HIGH SCHOOL. WHY?

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Sorry, but I hardly feel that crashing the funeral of a soldier with posters saying "GOD HATES FAGS" could be considered "peacefully assembling".


Yeah, that's what we should do. Take away speech from those that youuuuuuuuu disagree with. That's what the 1st amendment means and everything.


My god, I just wanted to quote this because it really is THAT ridiculous.


Defending civil rights is ridiculous? If you say so.

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That's weird, because when you protest something like, let's say the G-20, you are met with brute police force.

Seems slightly hypocritical, no?

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sorry, FTF, but part of freedom of speech includes freedom to be THAT ridiculous. once we start picking and choosing who gets to say what, we're doomed.

"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
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Sorry, but I hardly feel that crashing the funeral of a soldier with posters saying "GOD HATES FAGS" could be considered "peacefully assembling".


Yeah, that's what we should do. Take away speech from those that youuuuuuuuu disagree with. That's what the 1st amendment means and everything.


My god, I just wanted to quote this because it really is THAT ridiculous.

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Alright Trolly McTrollerson.

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Sorry, but I hardly feel that crashing the funeral of a soldier with posters saying "GOD HATES FAGS" could be considered "peacefully assembling".


Yeah, that's what we should do. Take away speech from those that youuuuuuuuu disagree with. That's what the 1st amendment means and everything.

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Sorry, but I hardly feel that crashing the funeral of a soldier with posters saying "GOD HATES FAGS" could be considered "peacefully assembling".

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I'm sorry, maybe we should keep allowing these people to protest the god damned funerals of those in the military killed in Iraq, my bad.


Maybe we should pick and choose when the 1st amendment protects our speech? I'm going with: "Nah."

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I'm sorry, maybe we should keep allowing these people to protest the god damned funerals of those in the military killed in Iraq, my bad.

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Haha, glad you enjoyed.

I'd honestly love to see these jag-offs made uncomfortable, even if I know it won't happen, and I know it's what they want.

First amendment right, schmirst amendment right. These people constantly go above and beyond to shit on America. I'm no patriot, and I don't have enough fingers on my hands to count the problems I have with our government, BUT COME ON.


So in turn, you shit on the 1st amendment? Nice.

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And for those of you appalled by their actions with some disposable income, might I suggest this?

There's a same sex rights activist group that has people pledge X amount for every minute these people are out there protesting, and then they send thank you cards to Fred Phelps letting him know how much money he raised for them:

Phelps-A-thon!

Do whatever you can!!

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Haha, glad you enjoyed.

I'd honestly love to see these jag-offs made uncomfortable, even if I know it won't happen, and I know it's what they want.

First amendment right, schmirst amendment right. These people constantly go above and beyond to shit on America. I'm no patriot, and I don't have enough fingers on my hands to count the problems I have with our government, BUT COME ON.

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We need people like THIS GUY to show up. Best way to deal with this is to make them look like a joke, if you ask me.

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Excellent find, f_t_flannel!

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We need people like THIS GUY to show up. Best way to deal with this is to make them look like a joke, if you ask me.

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These so-called baptists are actually a bunch of lawyers. Everywhere they go they hope that someone will do something against them. Then they can file a lawsuit to make money. They know that the best way to get people to react is to make the most outrageous statements. If people don't react or treat them as lawyers they lose.

Their modus vivendi is starting to be known.


do you have information that backs up your claim? it is pretty plausible .... but can you corroborate?

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They will probably forget their bulletproof vests and the joke will be on them at the High School. Maybe they can visit some of the projects while they are in town, say hi to some of the nice people there.


Making fun of people getting shot is HILARIOUS.

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