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Re: 50 NJ High Schools with best SAT scores -- McNair at #20
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McNair opened in 1976. I think we can all agree the student composition in terms of feeder schools may have changed over time.


I agree with you, it stopped being number one to just being a good school. McNair lost that population from Catholic schools.


so you are saying catholic school produce superior students.

how do you explain Stuyvesant HS then? which is considered one of the top 10 in NY consistently over the years. And ~70% of the kids there are Asian - not from catholic schools. And it's been that way since I went there, almost 20 years ago.

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Re: help reading appraisal from revaluation
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I am not clear why abatement tax will be higher than your actual property tax, according to above info i was given from the abatement tax lady, it should never happen. I guess maybe some building has special non-standard abatement contracts.


This is because some abatements are based on, at least for a portion of the abatement period, on a calculation that has nothing to do with the normal tax rates, but a formula based on the highest purchase price and common charges. It is possible for that formula to wind up creating a number that is higher than the unabated tax bill.


This. Plus, remember that 80% of the previous "effective tax rate" (.8 * 2.1 = 1.68) actually comes out higher than the estimated tax rate for 2018. Abatements were based on a "calculated" effective tax rate that we now know was completely off.



1) Abatement based on purchase price - that explanation makes sense. I remember while reading my pilot doc it had similar provision, and pick whatever is the higher $. Since my building's abatement started like 15-20 years back, this is a non-item as 80% of my current property tax will always be much higher than the purchase price back then for the unit.

But i can see if you bought a million dollar condo with abatement now, you may end up paying more than normal tax even with the percent discount if abatement is based on the million dollar purchase price while regular tax is based on the assessed value.

2) bodhipooh, i am not clear on the tax rate you mentioned. The previous tax rate is 7.8. The proposed tax rate is 1.62 The abatement discount is always 80%.

So it's previous assessed value * 0.078 * 0.8 vs new assessed value * 0.0162 * 0.8

If assessed value remain same then the property tax would go down significantly, but in my case and most cases the new assessed value is significantly higher. So even with the lower rate your new property tax is higher. Abatement is always just 80% of the actual property tax (assume it's not based on purchase price or anything special as previously said).

Can you clarify? thanks

Posted on: 2/13 10:18
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Re: help reading appraisal from revaluation
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OP here, so I went to city hall and met with both the representative from the appraisal company(lots angry people there) and also the abatement clerk in the tax collector office to get to the bottom of this.

Here are the info:

1) New tax rate * new total assessment value = your property tax.
2) New tax rate is still being determined by JC and is not available, the best guess appraisers used is 1.62. So it should be close to that number.
3) New total assessment value is the sum of land + structure, and the total of course varies between each unit depends on the new assessment you got.
4) Compare the new total assessment against similar units in your area sold in the last year, if your assessment is higher (by 15%) you should file tax appeal to reduce it. If it is not, you can still file tax appeal but it wont help much. Key is finding similar comparable units sold in the last year with a lower price than your total assessment.

5) Now for pilot/abatement, it is only on the structure, you pay land tax as regular tax.

Easier to explain using my example:

My current 2017 assessment (include exempt + taxable portion) is $132,800
-TAXABLE PORTION: $3,500 (actual taxes @ 7.8 rate/$100 assessed = $273)--> $3500 is the previous land assessment, and I pay $273/year as regular tax for land.
-EXEMPT PORTION: $129,300 --> this is the tax abatement portion (i pay ~$8000 in abatement, which is 80% of the actual property tax: 129300*0.078*0.8 )

New 2018 assessment is $584,700
- TAXABLE PORTION: $100,000 (estimated taxes @1.62 rate/$100 assessed = $1,620) --> $100,000 is the new land assessment. And with the new rate, i pay $1620 in regular tax for land
- EXEMPT PORTION: $484,700 --> this is the new tax abatement portion, similar to before, i will pay 80% of the actual property tax. So in this case: 484700*0.0162*0.8 (assume actual rate is 1.62)


6) Final note on abatement, for the abatement percentage (80% in my case) of total tax you pay for abatement, refer to your building docs as many have said. They increase as the years go on (varies by building, example: 15% of actual tax for year1-5, 40% for year5-10, 60% for year10-20, 80% for year20-expiration). Refer to your pilot abatement docs.

Another easier way is take the sum of abatement payment + regular tax(land tax) for last year divide by the actual annual tax you would paid if there was no abatement, and that percentage is your current abatement percent discount of actual property tax.

So dont worry too much about your abatement, focus on finding out what your actual tax will be without abatement, if that is reasonable, then you should be fine.

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I am not clear why abatement tax will be higher than your actual property tax, according to above info i was given from the abatement tax lady, it should never happen. I guess maybe some building has special non-standard abatement contracts.

Posted on: 2/12 18:40
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Re: New Tax Rate is Insane!
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i agree with everyone about paying their fair share of the property tax and those under assessed already lucked out for the past years.

However there needs to be a transition period as oppose to this shock of a $20K+ increase as the OP had.

Imagine people who have been living in those brownstones for 10-20 years or newcomers, who doesnt read the forum or understand that a reval means you get a 20K tax increase (and no one knows the numbers until they get the letter this past 2 weeks).

Now all of sudden they need to pay 20k extra a year.

What should have happened is they do the reval, letting the owners know the new tax will be 20k higher, and the tax gets increased 25% each year until it hit the 20k threshold.

This at least give those people time to move out or get their money prepared to pay the increase.

In short, agree with the reval/assessments, but doesnt agree with this piss poor execution they have done.

Posted on: 2/2 15:29
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Re: help reading appraisal from revaluation
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avinandre wrote:
What happens if you move out of PILOT will it be 1.62*584k ?


i dunno, i am so confused with this abatement, i wish there is a site or someone knowledgeable who can explain.

Going by 584k * 1.62 = $9460, i will actually be paying the same as with abatement which is: $8000 (abatement) + 1620 = 9620.

And if you remove abatement all together, my previous regular tax below, which is 132800*0.078 = $10358.

So my property tax actually went down a little? But then why is only 3500/132800 regular tax last year, but this year it is 100000/584700 regular tax? None of this makes any freaking sense.

My current 2017 assessment (include exempt + taxable portion) is $132,800
-TAXABLE PORTION: $3,500 (actual taxes @ 7.8 rate/$100 assessed = $273)
-EXEMPT PORTION: $129,300

New 2018 assessment is $584,700
- TAXABLE PORTION: $100,000 (estimated taxes @1.62 rate/$100 assessed = $1,620)
- EXEMPT PORTION: $484,700

Posted on: 2/2 15:16

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help reading appraisal from revaluation
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Hi guys,

As part of the revaluation in jersey city, i was just sent an appraisal report for my 1 br condo in downtown, which is still under tax abatement.

I currently pay ~$8k in abatement tax and ~$270 in property tax

I need some help on reading what this bill is actually saying, because it is very confusing. Can someone please in simple terms explain to me what the appraiser is saying and what my new tax abatement and property tax will be?

This is what is in the letter:

My current 2017 assessment (include exempt + taxable portion) is $132,800
-TAXABLE PORTION: $3,500 (actual taxes @ 7.8 rate/$100 assessed = $273)
-EXEMPT PORTION: $129,300

New 2018 assessment is $584,700
- TAXABLE PORTION: $100,000 (estimated taxes @1.62 rate/$100 assessed = $1,620)
- EXEMPT PORTION: $484,700

So my understanding is my property tax is going up from $273 to $1,620. But what about my tax abatement which is currently at $8000, the exempt portion amount also went up 4x, does that mean i have to pay $32,000 in tax abatement payments now? for a 1br condo???

Any clarity you guys can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thank you

Posted on: 1/30 22:23
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3rd QT (8/1) tax bill still missing from JC website
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Hi, the 3rd quarter tax bill is due on 8/1, yet they are still missing from the jersey city website, so i cannot make the payment.

Does anyone know what's going on? usually they are available a month or 2 in advance.

thanks

Posted on: 2017/7/25 18:55
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Re: Seeking a reliable Landlord/Tenant Lawyer
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STRONGLY recommend Dianne E Laurenzo, 201-448-8068, office in Hackensack and Hoboken.
When we bought our current DTJC condo, it was tenant occupied, they refused to leave, the owner started a costly eviction process, it was a nightmare as we had already closed.
Dianne breezed through the nightmare, she answers her phone, in addition to real estate she is a criminal lawyer, she sorted out the whole mess with no loose ends, which is what we all want.
Good luck, let us know what happens!


tag

thank you

Posted on: 2017/6/12 10:56
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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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hi for a high rise condo in downtown jersey city, if i am not home when the inspector comes will it have a negative impact on my reval tax?

the days he suppose to be here i need to work. i assume since it's a condo with many similar units, they can just use similar unit's value for my reval.

Is that accurate? i am not trying to avoid a reval, just cant leave work.

Posted on: 2017/6/6 18:13
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Re: FSBO 1Bd @ GullsCove South Facing
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PeteJC wrote:
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gullscove1018 wrote:
Thats the comps actually ... the last unit in my line just sold for $680K without parking... Prices have gone up... Phase 2 is over $950 a sq/ft (was raised over the weekend) -- and thats for a North Facing Unit... so my South Facing unit @ $869/sqft is a bargain. I have done my research :)


yeah that's the going price, you should be able to sell it without much difficulty.

i sold my 1br in portofino in 2015 for 570k at full asking in 1 week thinking i made out like a bandit, little did i know i lost 100k by not waiting another year.

the prices are really crazy, during the absolute height of the bubble - where loans are being issued to anyone including their pets, the same 1br was going for 460k and 2br2ba was 550k in my building. Now we are at 50% higher than the high of the 06 bubble.

just mind boggling



Especially with the reval looming. Who is spending this $ on these places and what is the logic behind it? If you just do a P/E analysis you can see how bubbilicious it is. $700K for a 1 bedroom in JC w/no parking, a huge tax bill, and a decent maintenance fee?!

Or is there a significant tax abatement on the Gulls Cove properties??



majority of the highrise condos have tax abatement in place, although you still pay a lot of taxes - it isnt a true tax abatement like in ny where you pay like $100 tax a year for 10 years. But the abatement nonetheless shields you from significant tax hikes and keep it stable.

The idea is you sell it with about 3-5 years of tax abatement left to pass the unit to the next clueless person - game of musical chairs. Because when the abatement expires, you can expect at least a 30% tax hike.

The reval is really against the brownstones and non-highrises who are paying 5k taxes a year right now, especially those units that were renovated and sold for 1mil+. It will end in tears for those owners, unless they are rich enough they dont care - but then why would you be in jc instead of nyc

Posted on: 2017/3/29 14:54
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Re: FSBO 1Bd @ GullsCove South Facing
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gullscove1018 wrote:
Thats the comps actually ... the last unit in my line just sold for $680K without parking... Prices have gone up... Phase 2 is over $950 a sq/ft (was raised over the weekend) -- and thats for a North Facing Unit... so my South Facing unit @ $869/sqft is a bargain. I have done my research :)


yeah that's the going price, you should be able to sell it without much difficulty.

i sold my 1br in portofino in 2015 for 570k at full asking in 1 week thinking i made out like a bandit, little did i know i lost 100k by not waiting another year.

the prices are really crazy, during the absolute height of the bubble - where loans are being issued to anyone including their pets, the same 1br was going for 460k and 2br2ba was 550k in my building. Now we are at 50% higher than the high of the 06 bubble.

just mind boggling


Posted on: 2017/3/29 14:13
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Re: Property Tax Appeal - Comparable Sales
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this is so easy to do in jc / hudson, dont know why you need a lawyer.

They allow you to submit the appeal directly online, you can find recent comps online also on the nj tax record site. Then they will send you a letter usually offer you a number that's slightly higher than what you wanted but still considerably lower than the current value. If you accept then you are done, you only need to goto court if you reject (which is stupid). The whole submission takes like 15 mins to do.

I have done it a few times and all went very smoothly and lowered my tax on average 15-20%. Your "lawyer" is probably doing the exact same thing except charging you $$$$.

Just a word of caution though, those are during the "down" years where it's very easy to show comps that are sold 30% lower than your current appraisal value. Nowdays the comps will probably be HIGHER than your appraisal value, in downtown at least, so it will be stupid trying to appeal your tax...by showing comps that are sold for higher.

So as you guys can see timing is everything when filing property tax appeals. You should be filing every year as as long as the property value are declining and lower than your appraisal.

Unless you bought recently, nowdays almost all the appraisals are lower than the market value. So it's moot to appeal, what exactly will you be appealing? to increase your taxes?

Posted on: 2017/3/22 14:12
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Re: Wood floor sanding and varnishing
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i mean install prefinished hardwood floors engineered or regular.

your points are valid, it's up to the individual, just giving my experience.

Our upstairs floors were badly damaged so we decided to replace them with engineered wood floor ~700 sqf, and the whole thing was done in 2 days after delivery with very little odor or issues.

So just comparing to the downstairs refinish, we definitely just going to replace going forward, unless like what the previous poster said you got some 1850 special wood floors etc..

Posted on: 2017/3/17 9:44
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Re: Wow - LSC's Updated Plans for SciTech Scity
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jcguy05, I guess it's a fantasy that a developer wants to plant a giant development directly to the north of the LSC . . . http://newyorkyimby.com/2017/01/2265- ... n-avenue-jersey-city.html


It IS definitely a fantasy until breaking ground. please..those plots of land around there has been sitting vacant for decades even during the mega real estate booms in 07 and now.

Even with the golf course next door, port liberte (another disaster), and lsc very close, noone wants to touch those lands because of the location and access to....well nothing.

it's a gift someone is willing to develop it and even build school and public space on it. Just giving it away for free to build high density "cookie cutter" condo/rentals there is much better than what it is now...

Posted on: 2017/3/16 17:03
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Re: General contractor recos for condo work
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newbie100 wrote:
Looking for a contractor to do wooden floor (sanding and refinishing), painting and a little bit of electrical work (add wiring for and ceiling fan to a room). Need someone who has experience working in condo buildings in downtown JC and has the required contractor insurance.


unless you have some very special wood, dont do it. I just had it done and the chemical is so bad 10x worse than paint, my neighbor called the fire dept. I had the whole place vented afterwards with homedepot blow fans to create a vacuum for over 4 weeks now and the smell is still there. And from my understanding those are very harmful to you inhaled.

It's absolutely NOT worth it to resand and refinish, instead just get new floor installed. The cost is really not that much higher and you dont have to deal with the chemicals. I hired a very experienced contractor but this is the process no way around it.

They have the new water based whatever refinish coating now but my contractor said those dont last and end up looking bad - he has no reason to lie to me as i am paying for all material.

if i had to do it over again i definitely would just have new floors installed, cost may $1500 more for builder grade bruce brand level engineered or hardwood for a 700 sqf.


Posted on: 2017/3/16 15:24
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Re: Wow - LSC's Updated Plans for SciTech Scity
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all you whiners forget this is swamp land sitting in the ghetto of jersey city.

you are in fantasy land if you think some developer will come buy this land even to build "cookie cutter" condos or rentals. There are so much vacant lots in the ghettos of jersey city outside of downtown and journal square area, the city couldnt give them away if wanted to for development.

this will transform a blight pocket of land into a nice thing while providing benefits such as the school back to the city.

all you people do is whine and whine whenever there is ANY development going on anywhere in jersey city, be it downtown, jsq, or in the ghettos. I am glad none of you are running jersey city, otherwise the entire city will still be an abandoned warehouse/factory dump

Posted on: 2017/3/16 14:54
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Re: Woman dies falling off escalator inside famed World Trade Center Oculus while reaching to grab hat
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cant be careless around escalator.

this was another tragic accident that happened in china recently that was escalator related.

The baby died, the little girl luckily held onto the steps and didnt fall down. Very sad.

https://youtu.be/IB-oo-kosSo


Posted on: 2017/2/13 18:06
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Re: Amazon US Post office delivery issues
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USPS is the worst

1) Their tracking is never updated real time, sometime it shows up days after they pick up the package, sometime nothing until it is actually delivered.

2) They lose and delay packages all the time, i had packages with no tracking info for 2 weeks, then after i refunded the customer, it shows up on tracking as accepted in PA (i dropped off in jersey city). Had packages going in a loop between different NJ hubs for weeks until it is finally sent to destination, etc..

3) They dont care - the 2 lady in the montgomery post office act like they are doing you the biggest favor by taking your package. There are lines going all the way to the door and they would talk and chat with each other and few people they know and do everything in sloth pace like in zootopia. You can also see there are bunch people in the back laughing talking and doing nothing, but none would come try to open another window to assist.

They would also randomly pick on people, more than once they tell me my box is too big and i need to open everything up and repackage it in a different box and i had to educate them on what girth measurement actually means, had to get the manager more than once to override those idiots and confirm my boxes are within size limit.

I see them pick on other people all the time, mostly young people and asians, forcing them to repackage boxes that they didnt need to.

It's no wonder they are losing billions, those people dont care one bit, they know they cant lose their jobs. UPS/Fedex also messes up but at least their customer service care enough to try to fix the issue right away and are competent and somewhat efficient.

/rant off

Posted on: 2017/2/6 18:36
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Re: Montreal Bans New Pit Bull Ownership After Deadly Mauling
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First, I am sorry for the loss of your sister. Secondly, knives do not have brains, they cannot will themselves to attack a person. Lastly, pit bulls should be banned as a breed.


I'm not sure I understand this argument at all. Who cares whether knives/hot dogs/cars have brains? They cause death all the same. I don't think it matters to those killed whether the knife wanted to kill them.

Explain to the class why this is relevant to anything.



You are grasping straws. if I leave a knife on a table or floor, it will not pick itself up and attack someone.

Pitbull is one of the most abused dog breeds and by far the breed with the highest number of dogs being killed each year in shelters because noone wants them. By not banning pitbull ownership all it does is encourage the market to breed more pitbulls, which end up being abused or in a shelter by irresponsible owners, to be killed.

There are hundreds of other dog breed you can own. If pitbull is legally banned, it will significantly reduce the breeders from making more of those poor animals that end up suffering in shelters and force owners to neuter their pitbulls to prevent further breeding. The law should ban new pitbull ownership but let current owners keep their dog obviously.

Fact is pitbull is the one breed of dogs with the highest capacity to attack humans unprovoked when not properly taken care of, and in rare instances even when they are. This cause them to be abandoned by owners once they have kids or other life events, which causes those dogs to be in shelters, and because of the breed, very few people takes them back, so majority ended up being killed for no reason.

It's great YOU as a pitbull owner love your dog and take care of it, but unfortunately the world is not just you. By supporting not banning pitbull ownership all you are doing is causing more pitbulls to be bred, suffer, and killed each year.

Some stats: for every 1 "happy" pit bull ownership, 599 are killed. Approximately 800000 pitbulls are killed every year in the US shelters, making up 50% or more of the total dogs killed each year in US.

Posted on: 2017/1/20 10:38
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help - what is ALTERNA TAX CERTIFICATE for property tax payment
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Hi guys need some help deciphering the jersey city tax collector website.

Every quarter i goto the JC tax collector website to pay my property tax online via check, and once paid the "Paid By" column says E-CHECK.

Now for my most recent 11/2/2016 payment, from my checking account it said the money was paid, yet on jersey city tax collector website for my property the "Paid By" column has "ALTERNA TAX CERTIFICATE" instead of E-CHECK.

I googled alterna tax, it seems to be some kind of lien company that specializes on delinquent payments.

Can someone help or know what this means? i want to get some ideas before calling the jersey city tax collector office, as you guys know they are very impatient and won't explain anything so want to go in with some understanding what's going on.

Thanks

Posted on: 2016/12/9 1:22
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Re: Large Group of Teens Brawl at Newport Mall - Wed. - 4pm
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JERSEY CITY -- One teen was arrested and another suffered a minor injury when a large fight broke out inside Newport Centre mall Wednesday afternoon, police said.

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merry christmas and happy new year!

Posted on: 2016/12/8 17:14
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Re: Trump Our New President
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definitely a historical upset.

dems so massively miscalculated their base. If it was bernie instead vs trump, most likely bernie will win. Since they both represent the same base for those swing voters in the middle. But faced with a choice of hillary vs trump, and 8 years of obama fatigue. The middle has no choice but to capitulate to trump.

he will either be a great president that actually get things done, or one of the worst president in history. There is no middle ground for trump.

Posted on: 2016/11/9 14:03
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scammer walking up/down montgomery
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Hi, has anyone have experience with a scammer recently that walks up and down montgomery from the waterfront to grove path?

He has a fake story about just moving here from LA or some place, got lost and need money for ticket home.

He came up to me at least 5 or more times so far over the last 2-3 weeks repeating the same story, without realizing i am the same person (guess i am pretty forgettable). My wife also got harassed by him and said he was pretty forceful when asking for money.

The dude is late 20s/early 30s, african american, very muscular (like a body builder), average height ~5'11" and always wore a t-shirt when he came up to me.

Looks like he does this almost daily during lunch hour since i encountered him so many times.

Can police help here? or it's not considered a crime to lie to scam money.

Thanks

Posted on: 2016/11/3 14:49
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Re: TALDE JERSEY CITY
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how is this vomit of the mouth place still in business....amazing.

Posted on: 2016/10/14 11:25
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Re: 100% financing lending
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do i have to pay it back?

Posted on: 2016/10/12 17:07
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Re: Montreal Bans New Pit Bull Ownership After Deadly Mauling
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Canadian City Bans New Pit Bull Ownership After Deadly Mauling

Time Magazine
9/29/2016

Current pit bull owners have to obtain a permit to keep their pets by the end of the year

A Canadian city has banned residents from owning new pit bulls after a woman was killed in a brutal dog attack earlier this year.

Montreal’s City Council on Tuesday voted to make it illegal for anyone to adopt or acquire a new pit bull or pit bull-mixed breed dogs following the deadly mauling of a 55-year-old Montreal woman four months ago, CBC reports.

The new ban goes into effect on Oct. 3 and forces residents who currently own pit bulls to obtain a permit to keep their pets by the end of the year. Pit bulls considered illegally owned will face euthanasia, according to the Washington Post.

The controversial ban has been met with anger among animal activists. It prompted the Montreal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals on Wednesday to file a lawsuit against the city to nullify the new legislation.

http://time.com/4514044/pit-bull-ban-canada-montreal/


about time! we need that here.

I dont think all pitbulls are vicious attack dogs, majority are loving domesticated animals.

But they are one of the very few breeds of dogs that are kept by average joe that has the potential to cause lethal damage to other dogs and humans when not probably taken care of by their owners.

At the end of the day, it's not the dog but the owners who keep them i dont trust, because a large percentage of the human population are stupid and selfish that could careless about anything. Unfortunately the only solution then is to target those dogs.

Posted on: 2016/9/30 13:21
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Re: Hoboken Train Crash
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does anyone know which train? is it the bergen line? why dont they list the actual train # / name that crashed.

Posted on: 2016/9/29 11:26
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Re: Potential Hurricane on Sunday
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jcneighbor wrote:
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jcguy05 wrote:
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jcguy05 wrote:
nope not happening, stop worrying.


see nothing to worry about.


Tell that to the people who live on some stretches of the the south shore of Long Island. Bay Shore has about 3' of water in the commercial district of town.


oh i just mean downtown jc

Posted on: 2016/9/6 12:06
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Re: Potential Hurricane on Sunday
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jcguy05 wrote:
nope not happening, stop worrying.


see nothing to worry about.

Posted on: 2016/9/6 10:37
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Re: Potential Hurricane on Sunday
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nope not happening, stop worrying.

Posted on: 2016/8/31 15:08
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