Rich.....
Thank you for the pictures, and any more would be great.

On the floor???? Who pulled the names ? Is this something the voters can attend in the future??

Again, Thanks for the pictures and best of luck

Rich.....
Wow... I have forgotten all about ,both , historic sites. Im guessing that was your point. Thank you for reminding me and educating some on this site about our history. I have a question, Any photos of either??

Again, Best of luck to you!!

Good evening all....Good evening all....
Rich, again Im glad you threw your hat in the ring, all the best. I agree there are problems all aroung, cant be more true...

As I stated earlier , I dont know all the details of the sale, im sure not everyone does and we can do alot of assuming. I do agree that on the surface it looks suspicious.

T-Bird...
This statement isnt 100% correct ----The city subsidizes the PA at between $1.1 million and $1.3 million per year. And it still loses money.
The city does pay back the PA a percentage of what the enforcement costs from paid parking violations. Thats wrong? If an autonomous agency comes out of pocket to provide a service for the parent company , City of Jersey City, why shouldnt they get the money back? They arent loosing money in the past few years.
Everyone on here , as I do, hates the little "Love Notes" on the windshields from the damn scooter meter maids... I got one last night!! I gave it a shot that I was going to be in a store for 15 min and I lost the roll! 29$ later Damn I said!!!!
I cant change , nor was it my idea to, change the way people think its not my job to do so. Some people will think whatever they want and that is ok. Its called free thinking! I applaude that and encourage that! Just look at things with an open mind.

Rich.....
Did you know that the PA did the transportation for the hospitals, cops, fireman during the snow storms? Did you know they did the snow removal details as a tour of duty as some of the police officers was looking for it to be a paid detail. They did plowing for the city in some areas that the JCIA couldnt get to. Thats what they were doing for the 2 months snow removal ( blocking the streets ) for the workers which freed up the police tfor emergency calls.

Thank god for scanners. Yes i listen to mine every now and again. Like I said earlier Kudos to the police dept! Brave men and woman who do for strangers as some here wouldnt do for a friend.

Im at a halt with the buying of the property , i dont know enough to comment on it. I dont want to resort to assuming.

I want to say to all , Yes we need something , what that is im not sure. New blood? New thinking? hit the lottery? ha ha
Goodnight all

Hi again,
Thanks for the post. I believe that the last few CEOs were in and out with this being a job on top of a pension. The current CEO has been involved with the city for years, I believe her being on the City Council while alot of these ordinances were brought up is beneficial to us all. I understand that she has brought professionalism to the PA and is looking to bettering the agency in the future. I hope she sticks around and not pushed out.

I believe the PA was at 880 bergen ave (Academy st and Bergen ave). They were paying a high rent(for the time) and the building needed work, way too much for the PA to eat. The decision to move to Central ave was done, at some request of the business owners on Central ave to get residents of the city back to the Central ave business district to shop from the stores. The building they need for day to day operation needs a mechanic garage , office space and storage for vehicles, this fit the bill.

So far ,it has been explained that at the time of the sale the PA lease read that they were responsible for the maintainance of the entire building, even if they didnt own it. Also the rent was going to go up , a quick decision was then made to buy it. The cost for a new appraisal and the time it would have taken to get it done would have put the PA in a corner to either sign a new lease for much more money per month or get out and have no space at all. So the purchase was done.

Asdfdf23....
Hello there, I also enjoy the dialouge on here with people who know whats going on, very good for all of to know whats happening in our back yard. Mr Boggiano doesnt have to answer to us on here, I m thankful he does.
I once was one of the biggest parking offenders in the city, sad to admit. I cant begin to tell you what I paid out. Once I started to add it all up I was shocked what I paid over the years ,thats when I began to call the PA for details on the day to day operation.work in Jersey City. So over the last 4 or more years I have gotten some education.

The PA generates millions in revenue between meters, violations including street cleaning, hydrants, driveway, corner parking and other parking vilations along with numerous types of permits. The term "cut a check" wasnt the right term to use, im sorry for that. The money collected by the JC Municipal Court , result of the enforcement by the PA , goes directly to the City of Jersey City . The amounts are staggering regarding the amount of money in tickets issued by the PA. I was informed that the PA wrote about 10 million in tickets last year, now whats collected is a different story. Thats on the courts.

The PA owes nothing , no outstanding debt. They own all vehicles and equiptment minus the building they bought. They pay all bills for day to day operation plus turning over the revenue generated by the PEOs to the City (cut a check) which adds up to Millions. Yes they get a percentage back, thats to cover the cost of the enforcement. It would be just as if you ran a store, turned over ALL you take in to a parent company and retain enough to cover your overhead. Mr Boggiano is correct, its not to be a money maker, its to provide a service for the citizens of this city. If the PD takes over the operation its still going to cost but it will cost more. Some say cut the staff and the PD will be responsible. This is more smoke and mirrors... It will be said " We cut the fat from the PA and saved the city a ton" I hate to tell you ,the PD supervisors will cost much more a LT makes 130k a Sgt makes 120k and to do this job correctly your going to need a few of them . So you will take a police supervisors out of the street and those spots will have to be filled. It will, with other Supervisors on OT. But the public wont see that ,all that we will be told is that " we cut the fat and saved you money" when they will be taking more from us , just we wont see it go. I have nothing but respect for the PD, I could not do what they do day to day but im a business person, numbers dont lie. The PA does a job for a quarter of what the PD will do for a dollar. Its not broken , please dont fix it.
I didnt gloss over the purchase of the building, and I can see how it may seem as I did. I havent gotten that far into the exacts of the sale. I hope to get there soon, I dont want to assume or guess.
If the building is sold, I understand that its for the PA to decide not the City of JC. Why sell? they bought it at a time when the market was down. The building is in a great location for growth for the city. The building price was 4.6 million not 10 million. The 10 million was an assumption of the total cost at the end of the loan. Lets say, and I hate doing this(ASSUMING), the PA gets an offer for the building for 8 million and they sell it. The bond is paid and the rest goes to the PA accounts not the City of JC. The city will only assume responsibility for payment on the PAs default on the bond.
I hope I have answered what it is you were looking for.

forgot to add..... The building , at the time of sale was NOT a fully Tax ratable property due to the amount of government that occupied the space. So the city may loose (1) tax ratable property at lets say 25K a year, but the occupants cut a check to the city for 8 million a year. I ll take the 8 mill !!!

Rich...
The number of employees did go from 127 in 2005 to whatever they are now, just like everywhere else bare bones. But 50 enforcement people for the entire city including , meters , all sweeper routes some of them are 6 days a week, , booting for permits, scofflaw , handling individual call in complaints and all the parking lots . Looking at the amount of people in enforcement , i ll put it in the way the PD has personal distributed, 50 divided by 4 (North,South,East,West) is 12 per area on a day that lasts from 5am to 11pm . they are at an all time low with PEOs. I think they are doing a great job. Do they use discretion in issuing tickets, Yes im sure they do. Im sure the police officers with the FP plates get a break. I see alot of them , do all cops on the job and retired have them? I always wondered?

For 2010 they didnt enforce street cleaning from Xmas to the end of February due to the bad weather, so now you divide your tickets by 10 months. The meters were not fully enforced because the PEOs were deployed for snow removal to free up the police.

I agree that the $400,000.00 dollars for the parking pay meters on central ave idea wanst given enough thought at the time and yes it seemed like a quick , rash decision to spent almost a half a million dollars. You can thank the Retired Jersey City Police Deputy Chief Mark Russ for that. Under his tenure that decision was made. I believe the CEO before Russ was another retired cop, Not sure. I see that the present CEO has been fixing old problems and still able to keep the PA in the black.

So we both agreee that the way decisions were made as to the equiptment purchased and deployed by CEO Russ(JCPD RET) were wrong. We can both agree that the way the collection by the PD Scofflaw Unit is lacking, and you want to put the whole agency in the same hands???? Really?

I have noticed alot of booting done all around the city and I inquired why. It was explained to me that the CEO has dedicated a small crew of diligent employees to bring the offenders to court. It was explained to me the crew has delivered just under $600,000.00 to the courts. The crew consists of enforcement people 4 of them at 35 to 40 K a year. They paid for themselves 4 times over so far. How many police officers at 100k a year are assigned to the scofflaw unit? 8? 10? at $800,000.00 to 1 million a year.

Im not sure you understand the bond on the building. The City of Jersey City DOES NOT own the building. They are NOT responsible for ANY payment unless the PA defaults. So why do you ASSUME that the building will be sold by the City ? They dont own it. If the PA decides to rent the space that CCTV occupies along with the other space like the post office and the 2 other floors . The rent pays the bond not the tickets. You have me by a year or two, wanst that a bowling alley at one time?

Rich..........
1) Again, thanks for the reply. At the JCPA there are about 85 employees and half or less are the enforcement. Im sorry I didnt fully explain The PA gets the $8.00 per PAID ticket. (see paragraph 3)

2) The idea of the math you stated , how can you say that. Of the population how many dont have cars, are kids , cmon thats Smoke and Mirrors . Your better then that. So lets go by realistic math. Get the amount of registered vehicles in JC and the amount of out of towners and then calculate that. Im sure you would have a different end result. Like you said we shouldnt use the residents as a cash machine, but to enforce the laws. Would you want every violation enforced on every car? You were a cop, you can drive around our city and pick out a violation on every street, corner better then the average citizen can. Bring your calculator on your next tour around the city, bring an extra battery!!

3) You stated reforming the PA and the PD , Id like to ask you something.... The police dept is in charge of the Scofflaw unit, Yes? If they would be better at the running the PA then why cant they get the scofflaw unit right? The numbers, public information, are clear. There are Millions, 9 I believe outstanding in scofflaw. Why arent they going to get that money?? You can try to blame the courts so Ill give you this tid bit of info. There is over 12 million in T-Pay in the courts .
So yes that you can blame on the courts but the original 9+ million is on the Scofflaw unit(PD). I would like you to explain why we , JC , allow the scofflaw unit to be responsible for not going after the outstanding money allowing the Quigley law to take over a million away per year from the City of Jersey City.
In short, the Quigley law, allows the non addressed ( if you never went to court to answer for the tickets) to be dismissed after 3 years. So thats every year we let 1+ million dollars slip away like it didnt exist. Im suggesting that reforming should start at the real problem.

4) I know exactly where you worked so im sure you were able to see what I was talking about. Thats why I said it.

5) The sale of the building , I agree we shouldnt be in the property management service but........ do the police stations pay rent, NO. They are selling headquarters for a profit to balance the city budget arent they? Thats ok ? That is wrong. What do you think will happen to the West District when the new one is built? If the city didnt want to put the money in it to restore it for the police you think they will restore it for another agency? No it will be sold , Yes for that dirty word a Profit. If you are on the council at that time will you vote the selling of the West District for a profit down??

Im enjoying the spar but I think I won this round ......

Rich.....This is the quote from that thread....

"It is true the JCPA receives funding from the city, this agreement goes back to 1991, when the city transferred the Enforcement Division from the city to the Authority. The actual amount of the appropriation has not changed since then, in fact it has decreased 21.12% since 2009. This funding no longer covers the cost of the Enforcement Division, it covers about half of their salaries and benefits; the residential permit program and Operations Division are fully funded by revenue generated by the Authority and the programs they operate."

Thats the 1.2 million..Where do you think that comes from? Its not just the residents....$8.00 per ticket.

I agree with you that the PA shouldnt be an ATM machine to fill the budget gap and should be to preserve parking for the resident. The permit program is what we need and that generates alot of money for the city. Without that people would come in , park jump on the trains and hit NYC using JC as Free Parking.

Id like for you , and anyone else, to see exactly what im talking about and respond. Go to Chapel ave early in the morning, 5am and watch the cars flock to the area by the ferry stop before the bridge to Port Liberte. They park there no charge, jump on the ferry and go to NYC. I see it every day. Thats what the downtown residents would have to contend with . They pay nothing to park and who gets hurt, the residents. If you doubt it take a look. Yes I know the city gave up that part of the street to Port Liberte but it wasnt permit parking before that.

The city is not the owner of the building , they backed the purchase and are only held responsible if the PA defaults... That building is in a great location to rent the space and let the building pay for itself. why pay rent at $225,000.00 when you can buy it and rent the space . It will be worth more when the market bounces back. So if the PA is able to pay the bond and they do it solo, its working let it work.

The top ten numbers were misunderstood by another person on this thread, I just clarified them. The top ten salaries dont , i ll bet , top $700,000.00 a year..... The CEO , if im not mistaken was hired for 98K about 2 years ago.

Rich, I know who you are and as I stated I firmly believe you have the best interests of the city at heart. But as I am a life long resident I have seen that agency managed poorly. The last one was the worst and he was a retired Deputy Chief of the same JCPD. I see this agency running alot better,theres response from the CEO, answers to questions , better working relations with the other city agencies, during the last snow storms thay were out plowing the streets and lots and transporting emergency personal , the last storm they were out all night blocking the streets allowing the PD to take the emergency calls . Why try to stop the headache by cutting off the head.

Thanks for the reply and best of luck to you.

tango............ The statement of the top ten salaries for the JCPA is 4 million dollars is incorrect.


The entire budget, what it costs for the year, is 4 million dollars.

The JCPA generates roughly 15 million dollars a year. They have no debt except for the building that they just bought. The city DOES NOT support them. The JCPA gets $8.00 per ticket that they write. That covers SOME of the enforcement. The amount of money that is exchanged between the City and the JCPA has not changed in 20 years.
Tango, It sounds live you are business smart so let me run this by you.... If an agency is paying its bills and making a 7 to 9 million dollar a year payment to its parent company , in these bad economic times, you would say "It aint broken so dont fix it" . Also.... when i say paying its bills I mean everything... no debt.... all vehicles paid for, property minus the building they just bought, is paid for, all insurances, all equiptment paid for..... They even paid for the 5 year old lawsuits that none of the other CEOs up there saved for even though the lawsuits started then.

The JCPA enforcement officers make on average 30k per year. The supervisors make on average 40k per year. Thats not all they do. they have operations which collects and maintains the meters, cleans the lots, plows the lots .

The idea that the police take that over isnt too smart... So now instead of the bosses up there now taking care of business you will have , atleast a police LT , as lets say the Boss and a few SGTs as the road bosses.... The JCPD LTs make over 130K and the SGTs make over 120k ... wheres the savings? Im sorry the police are already over worked and short staffed .

Mr Boggiano is wrong with his numbers. I like Rich and think he has the best interests of the city at heart but this topic he is dead wrong.. .

He stated why pay 4 million to get 8 million... that makes no sense... if the PD runs the PA its still going to cost money...even more if the PD start to run it.... numbers dont lie.

CASID............
The differences between the red and white signs are a as clear as Crystal!!!! If you park in the red sign area you have a 40 minute max. If you park in the white sign area you have a 2 hr max. I hate to tell you , Sir or Ma'am, have you noticed the red meter heads and the grey meter heads??? The same rules still apply!!!! 40 min for a red meter head and 2 hr for the grey meter head!!!!\

Honestly what is your arguement for getting rid of these pay stations?? It cant be the ones you have stated It has to be more then that! Is it that people arent spending money on Central ave ? Read the paper/watch the news , people are not spending !! They may not have much to spend!!

Yes central ave was once a place for people to spend the day shopping. I do remember that so before you say something that you know nothing about, I have been around there when Chet and John ran Kozak paint, The Al Rocky Music instrument shop just off Bleeker st, , the best Crumb cake from Havemeyers, Kings furniture store and Herberts furniture store , Torchios butcher shop (the saw dust all over the floor) which was run by a lady named Ann, Myers Ice cream shop owned by Mike Dee, Sal and Millies luncheonette "Our Place" next door to Ralphie and Lorettas fruit market, The italian deli which was run by Rita and Joe, yes the same as the owners "Rita and Joes " on broadway. Eagle beef owned by , Meyers Baby store next to Mays cleaners which was owned by the Wadleigh family for 50 years, Woodlawn Meatmarket owned by Sonny. I went to school with Stanleys son from Stanley Butcher shop before his accident where he lost his hand .... I can go on and on so PLEASE do not insult me or anyone else in that area or from that area.

Brew...
I agree with you, I should have typed my thoughts/opinion more clearly.

Yes its bad for the businesses but better for the areas like by the courthouse , even though it may effect the Newark ave businesses , that location it would be better. That is until the courts provide parking. Where I used my cell to put money in the meter was in an industrial/ large office complex area , like most now didnt provide parking except for meter parking.

CASID,,,,

Thats your point? Thats the reason? People have to actually pay attention to what they are doing so not to get a ticket? Are you serious!!!!!! Get off the damn phone for a minute and read the machine!! Stop yapping for 30 seconds and take care of the machine!!! Yes pay attention to your child but .............if your responsible for a Life or 2 or 3 you can remember to use the machine properly!!!

Im taking a guess that you own a business on Central ave. Id like to know which one so that if I am a customer of yours I stop going there due to you believing that your customers arent smart enough to do 2 things at once.

Im sorry to all, I dont mean to offend but CASID cant be serious.

The thought of going backwards is insane. With these paystations there are so many posibilities. In was just recently on a trip and I was able to put money on the meter by using a cell phone.

I googled the types of meters and found that they ,probably, could be updated to accepting some type of remote payment options. They should be put downtown so the people could feed the meter when needed from their desks and dont have to leave work , run to the car and put quarters in it.

Im taking a guess the people who want the 1950s meters back never served jury duty. Has anyone else spent time in the courthouse on jury duty, watch the clock, run to the car 15 min late and have a ticket on the car. The paystations would be great there

If im not mistaken the ones on Central ave were put in about 4 or 5 years ago. Im sure they couldnt be cheap so what would you have the PA do? Junk them? Talk about a waste of money. Please PA keep moving forward!

Id like to know the reason behind this, anyone have an idea?

I have, in the past, went to court , explained something similar and I just paid the ticket. The Municipal Court is pretty fair.

Good Luck

Ludo..... There are some areas where its a first time boot zone. Those are by the colleges (NJCU and ST Peters) and by the light rail stops. By the colleges they have parking lots available but the students are too lazy to use them and take up all the parking on the street. The light rail users take up the parking for the residents , hop the train and are gone all day.

There are also the Permit Parking Only areas where its a first time boot without the proper permit. Those permits are ,I think, $125.00 per month . Thats mostly by CC Dr from Marin blvd east to Hudson st and in that general area.

The ordinance for the unpaid tickets is actually the FTA booting. The vehicle has to have a minimum of 3 FTAs (Failure to Appear notices) then the boot. The vehicles are then Scoff Law offenders.



I hope this was helpful.

Ludo..... There are some areas where its a first time boot zone. Those are by the colleges (NJCU and ST Peters) and by the light rail stops. By the colleges they have parking lots available but the students are too lazy to use them and take up all the parking on the street. The light rail users take up the parking for the residents , hop the train and are gone all day.

The ordinance for the unpaid tickets is actually the FTA booting. The vehicle has to have a minimum of 3 FTAs (Failure to Appear notices) then the boot. The vehicles are then Scoff Law offenders.

I hope this was helpful.

To Indomitus,Sepecat,CatDog.....I have just spoken to a boss at the PA. They Do Not boot for inspection stickers. I was told the increase in number of boots people are seeing around the city is due to the increased enforcement of Scofflaw violators . It was explained that the boots are people/vehicles with alot of money owed for failure to pay for past parking violations. I was told the amount that is outstanding.

HOLY S%&T!!!!!! I SAY, GO GET EM!!!


JC_GeeGee... Can I ask what a borderline spot is?

Parker..... I dont know if your from NJ . Just want to inform you the state statue is (Believe it or not) 25 feet from a crosswalk and 50 ft from a stopsign . Yes that is INSANE for city living !!! On this site along with others there have been numerous complaints of this corner parking issues . The main complaint was that when vehicles park right to the intersection it blocks line of site to the intersection. As a result there have been many accidents, some serious. It sucks, trust me I have gotten my share of tickets from the PA , but its the way it is......

Sea... Its very simple..... Marijuana is the begining of the drug use in teens.... Do you think they just, at 14 ,15 ,16, , just hit the needle??? NO it starts with marijuana....

The marijuana is also a base for smoking PCP... The small bag of marijuana also other items, is mixed with PCP . have you ever seen a teen who was smoking marijuana with PCP? Go to the Jersey City Medical Center on a friday night and see for yourself.

Lock them all up especially if they are selling it to kids.

This is the future of our society!! You want to allow them to break the law and just "Fine them" You my friend are the problem with society , right up there with the drug dealers!!

Then Move!!! All of you who think or believe its OK ... LEAVE ... look at NYC I do not want to see JC SINK to that level!!!!! Its the begining you idiots!!!!!

Its NOT legal..... whats wrong with you people!! Booze is legal in certain circumstances ... Drink and drive and i have seen Lynchmobs against, CERTAIN people, on this site.... Spark up and drive and you will be ok with it?? This is CRAZY!!!! Really!!!!!!\\

Brew... As I have answered They do not boot 1st time offense for anything except certain zones around the light rail stops and colleges and permit spaces... I hope this is what your looking for.. if not I guess i cant help, sorry.

I remember that post. Didnt it end with something like ,,",if anyone has a question please contact me"" and phone numbers or email did you contact her? email or phone the agency? I know of a few people , like me, who did. I have the answers to my questions....

Ask the agency that question why it doesnt show its books I have no answer for that...

Now i will do as 90% of the people on the JCList does I will assume an answer.....

I believe its not a public agency they dont answer to you or I. they are not elected as the JCBOE . barriers ? your joking Just request it and get the answer. I got it in march . it took a week or so. Its not hard...

I hope you are a stand up person to admit when you get the numbers that you are impressed . I was along with being shocked, I might add

brewster.... One ticket unpaid( maybe they didnt get the ticket) 2nd ticket unpaid ( forgot) maybe thats the rational. This isnt rocket science.. would you rather 5 unpaid??

Put in the correct public record request and get the numbers like the rest of us did . I guess you know the CEO, ask her for the rational on the 3 tickets

FAB you are making a mountain out of a mole hill..... registered owner responsible for vehicle.
enough with the what ifs what if they didnt get the driver what if the owner lent the car out STOP !! common sense here !! you buy the car you register the car you are responsible for the car!!!!! the tickets the accidents everything....
Go to court and listen to the BOOO HOOOs the crying is nuts!!!!

I wish JCPA followed in the PA of Hoboken.... There isnt these problems... They dont listen to the masses They have rules they enforce the rules Period!!!

Brightmoment---this was from the original article

Until now, this work was done by the city?s Parking Authority, according to Ward E Councilman Steven Fulop, who strenuously objected at last night?s council caucus to transferring the work to police.

?Is this where we want them (Jersey City police officers) devoting their time?? Fulop asked, adding that if cops have extra time on their hands maybe they could mow residents? lawns as well.
I think Mr Fulop is a smart man , why stop money from coming in ?why spend more to get less done.....
why would you want cops doing this job , its beyond stupid!! pay cops who cost 3 to 4 times what the PEOs and supervisors cost. Thats not bright....... And I have to add, I ran into a few cops I know and was teasing them about becoming meter maids and maybe a spot on Parking Wars.... The answer I got was " Better shot at getting hit by a train on the ocean then cops doing that job effectivly "

Riazw.... Im waiting for an answer from DMV but since the holiday im sure they are pretty busy. Im 99.99% sure this is the answer ..... There will be no future registrations issued to the named register owner who is (a) has a warrant for arrest due to scoflaw (b) is a scoflaw violator without a warrant just a few violations.

Brewster ... Im sorry but I think you missed my point of an earlier post....1st time booting is for Permit locations by the lightrail stops ,the downtown stop on Essex St, C. C. Drive from Marin to the water and a few other streets designated as 1st time areas due to commuters ,Out of Towners, vehicles on JC streets and hit the ferry and trains. There are also streets by the colleges ,NJCU and ST Peters . There is NO 1st time booting for anything else....

Scoflaw is the 3 FTAs and the Boot.

These locations were passed by CITY ORDINANCE to PRESERVE parking for the residents. Passed by City Ordinance means its the LAW voted in by our City Council. The JCPA just doesnt make up the rules as they go. The most previous CEO of the Parking Authority did just that , made his own rules !! Thats why he got the boot ( Ha Ha I just caught that NO PUN INTENDED). The new CEO has , in my opinion, brought this agency out of the gutter and making the right decisions for a professional agency. I say Thank god for that. Im sure its because her background , being a member of the council, she is more educated as to the rules and ordinances. Granted that agency has its problems , it seems as she had her hands full the minute she walked in the door. But numbers dont lie! the money coming in the door takes the presure off us.

FAB........... So what you are saying is ......The PA come to your door waving a handful of tickets , you tell them it wasnt me it was BOB SMITH from 123 Main St . JC NJ they take that information and say Thanks FAB since you nominated him you are no longer responsible for these tickets and they go away? The PA then go to 123 Main st and there is no BOB SMITH there so they say Well FAB nominated BOB SMITH so it must be him and since there is no Mr Smith where FAB said into the shreaded the tickets go?? REALLY you have to be kidding!!

I just spoke with a Budget Car Rep and asked him " If I rent a car and a month from now after I returned it Budget Car company gets a FTA in the mail for a parking ticket that was issed to the car I Rented on the day I rented it , who has to pay for it. ANSWER>>>>>

Sir, whoever signed the rental aggreement and was the driver of record on the contract is legally responsible for the ticket even if another committed the violation...Its up to the renter of the vehicle to pay and if he didnt commit the violation he could get whoever the driver was to pay him back.

Sounds like the same to me, the registered owner of a vehicle is responsible for any violations even if he/she wasnt the driver. He/she could get whoever the driver was to pay him back.

Here is an informed, researched answer not an assumption.
Im sure there is someone on here that agrees with it , even though its not the popular explaination.

I understand that all on here hates the PA and would like to see them squashed. People think about that with an open mind not with a checkbook that has been hit a time or two. They bring in more then double what they cost , they have no debt and have , I believe 13, parking lost which are all paid for , they own all equiptment without monthly bills. In the last 4 years they have put approx 25 million in the check book of the city. If not for them where do you think that money would come from. US! OUR TAXES or more services would be cut to make up the differences.

If the vehicle was sold the day before the boot the registered owner is still on the hook no matter what. There may be an arrest warrant issued once the vehicle was not recoverable . Future registerations may have a problem also.

F.A.B.... I agree again half way. The driver should hav his/her feet held to the fire but. how is the PA or the PD going to know exactly who was driving? Show to the door of the owner and ask? and when the owner says " I dont remember or I have no idea" whats supposed to happen? rip up the ticket? forget the fines ?

If I may ask you this, you witness a fatal motor vehicle accident , you are 1000% sure of the plate on the vehicle that caused the accident and you give your statement to the police. The police finds the car at the registered owners home. The police ask the owner who was driving and the owner says " I have no idea" whats next? walk away? I know this is a far cry from a $52.00 parking ticket but im sure you understand where im going with this. If im not mistaken the registered owner of the vehicle is held fully responsible and if they were not driving the car when the tickets were issued then have the driver pay them back.

Im taking a guess from the screen name that you are a fellow HOG owner. If you ever did lend your Bike to anyone Im sure you would know exactly who was using it at ANY particular time of day.

Brewster... The 3 FTAs will stop the numerous tickets that add up to hundreds /thousands of dollars. If the owner is brought in due to being booted for 3 FTAs its likely that the registered owner would pay and watch out that they dont get to 3FTAs again. By the way do you know what FTA stands for? Its Failure to Appear in court. Thats called a NO SHOW in court If I had employees in my business that were a NO SHOW at work for 3 days , they would be looking for a new job.

I have a question... The contractor from NY, when did they get booted? Because if it was within the last 12 years and 11 months why didnt you warn him . The responsibility is on the owner of the home to let the out of towners know the rules How on earth would they know if you didnt tell them??

Riazw... Sorry for the delay in reply but I had to research the issue.
The violators are most times, put on payment plans by the judges A very small percent down and monthly payments to follow. Most times they make a payment or 2 , then they fail to make a payment, which constitutes the first FTA then the next month or so theres the 2nd FTA then a month or so theres the 3rd FTA so here we are 6 months later and then the vehicle is booted again. Theres the whole process again . It does happen. The same vehicles get booted over and over.So the clearing the slate in 6months will never happen

If anyone wants to disagree with what i have stated. Please do as I have ,research the issue , do not assume the answer .

Brewster..... You are talking apples and oranges. The reason for first time booting is to preserve parking around commuter hot spots like by the light rail and by the colleges ( NJCU and ST Peters) . Without that the out of towners and the student will take over those areas and the residents will be S.O.L (S&%t out of Luck).

How well do you know Chapel ave? Port Liberte'? That street , why i cant answer, is a private block from the walkway of the golf course to the water. In the early morning its empty but starting at 530am or so WOW!! The hoards of Out of Towners take over, take most of the parking then hop on the ferry. If you doubt this go check it for yourself!!!

A friend of mine just moved in there and when the moving truck got there at 9am there wasnt a space at all so they double parked. leaving it that way caused the driver to stay in the vehicle so not to get a ticket by the police. and delayed the move by 2 hrs . By 7pm the spaces were empty! I watched this. Again if you doubt this go check it out ( If you dont agree please dont assume that im wrong, check it out and have information for an inteligent arguement).

The contractor should have taken 15 minutes out of his day , spent $3.00 and gotten a daily permit. Is that so wrong??? Really? unheard of? If the contractor thinks that let him stay in NYC . There are plenty of talented contractors in JC that do great work and follow the rules every day .

Do you know why there is Scoflaw Booting?? Its because people refuse to take responsibility for the tickets they owe ! Please look up Quigley Law. This law , short explaination, if you get a ticket in january of 2011 and you dont ever pay it , never get booted, never get pulled over by the police , 3 years from the date of issue its like the ticket never existed. Poof gone! Its taken out of system.

I wonder how much money the courts get beat for year after year.

In your reply you stated that my initial explaination on booting was the "Common Sense Approach" so is any other explaination of booting ? Its Non Sense ! People dont like the booting because it hits you in the pocket and it holds you to following the rules .If you get a parking ticket you can throw it away and drive off, cant do that with a boot can you.

To Croft..... In any line of work there is a need for a chain of command, rank structure. Supervisors have responsibilities to assure that the jobs are being done correctly. I hate to tell you that there isnt much of a pay difference between enforcement officer and top "rank" of captain. According to the JCPA, when this was brought up once before, enforcement officers make an aprox 35K a Sgt makes aprox 37K a LT makes aprox 40K and a Capt makes 42K. There are less then 12 in the Supervisors "Rank" Wheres the "BIG PRETTY PENNY SAVINGS" You Need a structure there are different jobs done by enforcement officers where bosses are needed. Would you feel better with them being called something else?

The SUVs are essential for a few jobs year round more so in the winter time. There are less enforcement officers so walking wouldnt be smart for all of them They can cover much more ground in vehicles. The scoortes are what I have a problem with . They cost much more then the SUVs, and cost 3x more to repair!!! you cant get parts for these things look them up they are out of Canada and the company just shut its doors!!! So for reliability and year round use then have about 12 SUVs is acceptable .Also more then half are little Geos and Ford escapes. They trade off a few dollars in gas and not spent thousands in repairs.

I just found out this year that the JCPA , while assigned to the Office of Emergency Management , transport doctors, nurses and other essential personal in the snow storms and plow the snow in police lots along with the PAs lots.

To F.A.B... I agree with you half way. For a vehilce that is used in a crime ( vehicles used in crimes , stolen vehicles , drug dealers) why boot it? That would justify an official impound. The unsafe vehicles fall under title 39 and the are subject to official police impound. Booting is for one reason and one reason only, its to compel a person to show up to court to pay whats owed on the registered vehicle

Why would you ask on here and not call the JCPA directly???

Nothing against the people on here but unless they work for the PA they would not know the exact answer and you would not get what you are looking for.

Tom.....

Please tell me how you are going to convince people to stop driving into JC and why would you?? are you saying make it so inconvienent for people to drive here that they dont? I think its great that there are so many places to go to downtown now, go back 20 years there was NOTHING! Why build a wall around JC and not allow the business owners make a little. That way of thinking is selfish.

There has to be an even balance. It takes time.......Not going to happen overnight. To add to that, 20 years for a complete 180 degree turn that the downtown area took is NOTHING because the area keeps changing. Most over the last 20 years is trial and error. Who ever expected all this building there. So many people in one area . Everyone has no patients.
Just the other day I was on Newark ave when a guy was cursing and complaining about the noise of some construction in the area. I said, again my 2 cents worth, "AHHH small price to pay for upgrades to the area." he then said" I moved here so its more convienent for me, I was better off staying in Indiana " i asked where he lived and he told me, I said to him" that building is only 4 years old, now that your here you didnt think what it took to build where you live. The prople across the street from you probably bitched about the construction of your building." His answer was " I dont care what it was like , I just want it quieter". I walked away from that idiot , but I read comments like that on here daily. People all this takes time....PATIENTS!!!

Sep.......

All meters and reserve spaces are free at night . There is no enforcement for meters after 7pm /reserve after 5pm... Thats fair, No?

Sepcat....

Im not sure if you understand the reserve space parking .....

The reserve parking is only enforced until 5pm then its for whoever gets there first. Its free for the rest of the time. You are never, im going to stress NEVER going to get all the "out of towners" to use public transportation. Due to the masses either working in JC or using one of the trains/ferry system to get to NYC they will drive here, park for free and go on thier merry way without contributing a dime to the city. They get over on us because parking in NYC could be up to 400 to 500 $ a month

I see your wheels turning.... I ll bet your saying "The City tax office will never see a dime of that money, the JCPA collects the funds" . You are right and very wrong at the same time. The JCPA turns over 6 to 8 million dollars a year to City Hall, that is with covering ALL of the PAs overhead.

So think about it.... if the PA didnt turn over that kind of money to City Hall, the city would be another 6 to 8 million in the hole every year. And that would have to be covered by other means.

Im for more parking lots/reserve spaces. If the city uses the property they own and make just a paved lot with (for simple numbers) 100 spaces. Thats 100X $125.00= thats $12500.00 a month. Then after 5pm the residents could use the lots for free. It kills 2 birds with one stone! Thats $150,000.00 a year per lot and more parking for the residents!! Thats only for one lot.

Again im on my soapbox, Ill stop now. This rant was just my 2 cents worth