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'Slow and steady' growth? Obama is the first POTUS to never have a 3% rise in the economy. Hillary would be more of the same. And Obama got those abysmal numbers by doubling he national debt accrued by every single preceding POTUS combined. Just imagine how the economy would be if he hadn't mortgaged our kids lives.

Thank you, Comrade Monroe! The Russian Federation approves of your comments!

yet you can't disagree with the facts huh?

Of course he can't, this sort of deflection is what liberals do.

Also note how hypocritical the "Russia" point is. During the 2012 debates, Romney made a big deal about the threat Russia posed yet Obama scoffed at him, reminding him the Cold War ended decades ago.

Now, in an effort to rally the wagons around their thoroughly corrupt Dear Leader, we start to see this sort of fear mongering, from the party that always accuses Republicans of fear mongering.

We clearly saw during Monday's debate who was the fear mongering candidate...

Do you think fear mongering is limited to one party? Because that would be pretty foolish.

I don't know if it is limited to one party but this election, fear mongering is clearly the platform of only one of the candidate!

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There is a real cost associated with this possibility. For one thing, the financial markets value stability, opinions matter and translate to decisions where institutions invest their money. Trump is unpredictable.


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if Trump becomes POTUS, we'll be the laughingstock of the entire planet and lose all credibility as a nation. that's something you cannot get back

America nedds to focus on its problems at home and not on what other countries think.

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if Trump becomes POTUS, we'll be the laughingstock of the entire planet and lose all credibility as a nation. that's something you cannot get back

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Trump seems to agree on the needs of infrastructure improvements as he called the US a third world country...

And in many ways he is correct, imagine if our military budget for protecting sovereign nations was used within our own borders.

Trump can!

Sorry but Trump cannot.

Trump actually wants to lift the spending caps and increase the military budget...
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/art ... ng-as-clinton-gap-narrows

Wouldn't u think charging countries for using our military would allow us to increase the budget?

no...many countries would not pay. are you kidding me?

Are you kidding me? These countries signed treaties and contracts where they agreed to pay. They have violated their agreements and failed to do so.

What makes you think it will be difficult to get them to honor their promises?

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so, trump says he won the debate based on polls even the cbs poll which doesn't exist.

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Trump seems to agree on the needs of infrastructure improvements as he called the US a third world country...

And in many ways he is correct, imagine if our military budget for protecting sovereign nations was used within our own borders.

Trump can!

Sorry but Trump cannot.

Trump actually wants to lift the spending caps and increase the military budget...
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/art ... ng-as-clinton-gap-narrows

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I'm surprised the Orange Anus hasn't said the debate was rigged.

Lester Holt did his best to throw it to Hillary by not pushing her on the email scandal, not even mentioning the issues around the foundation or Benghazi among other issues.

Very true. He was very biased but was smart about it and expressed it subtly, through giving Hillary endless softball questions, staying away from her many many problems, and giving Trump a barrage of negative questions.

Still, I would have liked to have seen Trump attack her more. Let her get away with too much. He did ok but I'd like to see a stronger performance the next time around.

Or maybe next time he could explain how he will bring back all the jobs back from Mexico and China as it is one of his main campaign promise but does not seem to have a plan for it... or was not able to articulate it yesterday despite been asked... or maybe it is another secret plan...

His plan if you paid attention is to rewrite our trade agreements. To start taxing companies who build products or employ staff overseas that wish to sell back to the US. We are still the biggest global consumer we can call the shots. His biggest mistake was not pressing on why the emails were deleted. Lester let it slide but sure pushed Trump on the birther movement.

I paid attention and that was his answer to not have more leave the country, not to bring them back as that would apply to companies that decide to delocalize production and consequently close plants/offices in the US.
He made the distinction himself. He did not offer a plan to bring back the manufacturing jobs that are not located in the US anymore. I invite you to re-watch that part of the debate.

And I won't go into discussing the efficacy of such a policy as it would most probably negatively impact the competitiveness of American companies but this is another topic...

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I'm surprised the Orange Anus hasn't said the debate was rigged.

Lester Holt did his best to throw it to Hillary by not pushing her on the email scandal, not even mentioning the issues around the foundation or Benghazi among other issues.

Very true. He was very biased but was smart about it and expressed it subtly, through giving Hillary endless softball questions, staying away from her many many problems, and giving Trump a barrage of negative questions.

Still, I would have liked to have seen Trump attack her more. Let her get away with too much. He did ok but I'd like to see a stronger performance the next time around.

Or maybe next time he could explain how he will bring back all the jobs back from Mexico and China as it is one of his main campaign promise but does not seem to have a plan for it... or was not able to articulate it yesterday despite been asked... or maybe it is another secret plan...

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It was long said during the Republican debates that if it went to just a one-on-one debate, Trump wouldn't have won. When given enough time, he rambled incoherently on topics that don't really connect in, what I can only assume, was an attempt at getting a couple talking points in.

I did find it odd that the guy who spent the night sniffing and slowly slouching closer and closer to the mic ended the debate by saying his competitor didn't have the stamina.

Did anyone notice how shaky Trump's hands were each time he took a sip of water? I've seen no mention of it. If Clinton's hands shook like that the right wing media would be all over it. Trump was panicking. Maybe once the debate started he wished he took his adviser's advice and did some prep work?

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Where is Hillary flying off to after the debate in that space suit she is wearing?

What's up with Trump's ill fitting suit? What's he trying to hide? His increasing girth?

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on September 26, 2016 at 3:56 PM, updated September 26, 2016 at 4:07 PM

The developers behind two Waterfront buildings are suing Jersey City over $14.2 million in tax hikes the developers allege the city is improperly charging them.

The dispute revolves around two buildings that are part of Mack-Cali's Harborside: Plaza 5, at 185 Hudson St., and Plaza 4A, at 135 Greene St. The developers, subsidiaries of Mack-Cali, allege the city is forcing them to pay more in payments-in-lieu-of-taxes (PILOT) than the developers agreed to pay as part of a 2010 agreement.

(Fun fact: The developers' attorney is Richard Rudin of Weiner Lesniak, the firm of state Sen. Raymond Lesniak, D-Union)

More - Interesting Article

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Neither of them spoke to me - to the problems that are impacting my family and my nation. I thought Clinton won hands down on substance and being prepared. Trump sounded like a blowhard. He cannot form a cohesive thought on the debate stage - it's just cliche after cliche. He actually used the word "bigly" to describe a large amount of money. I was very disappointed overall.

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Trump was unprepared... terrible. Looked like a rookie panicked sales guy watching major deal sinking. The issues and concerns of the people supported are still there but this election is over.

Time for bed...

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Kaish would have been a much better choice as would of Romney but I remember his treatment when running. He was vilified as bad as Trump.

Can't you spell his name correctly? Same misspelling as your prior post. It's difficult to take you seriously when you can't spell a name correctly. And your memory is wrong. During the debates Kasich behaved in a dignified manner, and presented himself as a centrist. I may not agree with him on most issues but he has integrity.

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Because you can't call another candidate a misogynist when you enable your husband to humiliate women and you, personally, slut shame the women who made the mistake of letting your husband boink them? Kinda removes you from standing on the high ground, no?

some people are a basket case...trump is far worse of a womanizer than bill Clinton....and still, bill Clinton is not running for potus...Hillary Clinton is

Doesn't trump have someone fired for sexual harassment running his campaign?

Given that Clinton was disbarred due to his sexual shenanigans and had to pay almost a million dollars to settle a sexual harassment case, and is forever stained as the POTUS who defiled the Oval Office, saying Trump is worse is silly and incorrect.

1. GWB was the worst candidate possible
2. John McCain was the worst candidate possible.
3. "Universal healthcare" Mitt Romney as the worst candidate possible.

Now the Dems have their worst candidate possible and it's their own fault.

They have cried wolf too many times!

Trump is the worst GOP candidate...ever, and for anyone that doesn't see that, no point arguing. There have been far worse Democratic candidates than Clinton.

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TRUMP WARNS THAT CLINTON WILL RIG DEBATE BY USING FACTS

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowi ... rig-debate-by-using-facts

Really? You believe her 30 yrs of lies are facts?

What about Trump's 30+ years of scummy business practices and lies? If people think that Trump is their salvation their lives must really suck.

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Because you can't call another candidate a misogynist when you enable your husband to humiliate women and you, personally, slut shame the women who made the mistake of letting your husband boink them? Kinda removes you from standing on the high ground, no?

some people are a basket case...trump is far worse of a womanizer than bill Clinton....and still, bill Clinton is not running for potus...Hillary Clinton is

Doesn't trump have someone fired for sexual harassment running his campaign?

Given that Clinton was disbarred due to his sexual shenanigans and had to pay almost a million dollars to settle a sexual harassment case, and is forever stained as the POTUS who defiled the Oval Office, saying Trump is worse is silly and incorrect.

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Trump is looking more like a real Manchurian candidate.

U.S. intel officials probe ties between Trump adviser and Kremlin

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-intel-o ... nd-kremlin-175046002.html

Yes and Obama is Muslim...

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So she made a BS claim of being broke, that somehow makes her a criminal? You even state the money is reported income so where is the criminality? She released her tax returns, yes? Where is Trump's?

The whole 'she should be in jail' nonsense can be said about both candidates. It's all wishful garbage when we know they are too powerful to be held accountable. All we can judge them with is with their own words and while Hillary can be slimy, the slime emanating from Trump is beyond ridiculous. The guy doesn't care if you know about it, he brags about it and he never once apologized for it.

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You mean the screw-up of lying about Obama not being born in the United States? That's like 7 years too late dude.

But seriously, you think Trump, who brags about bribing politicians will somehow end the corrupt practices the freely admits to doing?

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D-list celebrities endorse Trump, A-listers plan to leave country




I'm going to New Zealand or Australia if Trump gets to represent this nation and indirectly me - which ain't going to happen coz I'm out of here.