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snowflake20 wrote:
OMG you guys are all so freaking dense! Hudson Point owns that freaking circle and THEY are the ones telling ME that it's a dog area! What about that do you not understand???? The waterfront area that starts at Hudson Point and ends at that circle is all owned by Hudson Point. That also includes the deck area with the picnic table.

If they own the area and that circle and they TELL ME that it's supposed to be dog area, I'm sorry but I'm going to believe them over you. You don't have to believe me, but you'll f*cking see it once they redo the circle in the coming weeks. Then you can come back and tell me that I'm wrong.

I think what we're all wondering is...

What is your point? and who cares?

It's not a dog park, it's just a place people walk and watch boats come in and out. If Hudson Point owns it, good for them but putting up a circular fence for that small an area makes no sense for them (they're a corporation, they're expecting a return on their investment...why would they invest in an area for dogs to run around in since the dogs already run around there anyway...).

Cool? Great...now go away.

(oh...and to answer the two questions I posed above: a) you have none and b) no one but you)

I'm glad i just wasted 5 minutes of my life reading this drivel and composing a response. Thanks a lot snowflake...the jokes on me.

phDog wrote:
right now its an off leash dog issue. soon it will be a drainage and health issue if the correct substrate and surface is not installed in the "dog run"

SLyng wrote:
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snowflake20 wrote:
It is SUPPOSED to be a dog area. As I've said, the property manager confirmed this to me when I mentioned to him that they should put a "no dogs allowed" sign up. He told me that the area is designated to be a dog run.

My head hurts reading your post....

So you're arguing it is *supposed* to be a dog run, but they neglected to build a fence when they built the "dog run"? You're also arguing that at the dog run their should be a "no dogs allowed" sign up?

I don't get it, do you think it should be a dog run, or not? As it is now, it's just a tree surrounded by rocks where people can watch boats go by....Is that such a bad thing?

In short: What is the point of this thread?

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itsaurora wrote:

Vigilante - what is with your insistence that dogs should be allowed to do whatever they please? This is a serious question. I'd really like to hear your reasoning behind this stance.

Agreed. At first it was nice to hear a voice advocating for the dogs, but now you are starting to sound a bit off-kilter. What gives?

It's interesting that the person who first told me 3 years ago about a pitbull killing a daschund puppy in Hamilton Park is one of the big voices now on this subject. That person then refused to talk to the cops and the press when we needed them most. That pitbull and the owner eventually fled the area without paying compensation or being fined. Instead of tackling the real problem, one aggressive dog with a bad owner, they tried to spin the story and make it about all the dogs in HP. They and some others tried to use the story of ONE bad dog owner to cast suspicion on all the other dogs and owners in HP. There are others too who are influencing our councilman. If you dog lovers out there saw how one of these persons in particular treated their dog you would be appalled. These people have been working to try and exert their control over all things Hamilton Park. (Did I oppose the BB courts? Yes, I think they add more chaos to the park than any other aspect. I have no political influence though. It was just my opinion). These people have the ear of our counilman though and they will do anything they can to control and compartmentalize HP. If the dogs there in the past were so menacing and over-running the park then how was it that there were 5 to 6 cricket games going on all over the park? How was it that the kids always had soccer and baseball practice without problems or incidents? There is no army of sunbathers waiting by the gates of HP shaking in fear. Anyone who wanted to could sunbath there and there were never any problems. These people have created a climate of hysteria about dogs. I have never seen a dog go after a child in HP. In fact, I have only seen the opposite. Children insisting on petting dogs and pulling their tails while parents stood nearby and did nothing. No problem though. There has always been a harmony in the park and things have been fine. Are there bad dog owners? Yes, just as there are bad parents. The subject of dog owners not cleaning up is a COMPLETELY separate issue. It goes hand in hand with LITTERERS. IMO all litterers should be shot.

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neanoora wrote:
Also, I find it extremely curious that now when the weather is nice, the park if full of dogs. What about in the middle of winter - don't those dogs need to run out then too? We certainly take our kid to outings regardless of the weather - he needs fresh air just like anyone else.

Really??? You find it curious why a park is busier when the weather is nice? I wouldn't know, as I dont frequent parks in the middle of winter. Based on your post one would assume that in the middle of winter the park is chock full of kids. I am a dog owner and I do let my dog run at Morris, it is a great place to do so. That said I only do so when the park is relatively empty early am or late afternoon.

Really!!! You only let your dog run when the park is "relatively empty early in the am or late afternoon" So your saying it's okay to break the law at those times, or that the people that are there at that time dont mind your dog?
There are so many things wrong with your statement but I'm just going to keep it simple and say that you are just palin 'ol WRONG!
There are leash laws in Jersey City early in the morning and later in the afternoon.

marybarr wrote:
For trying to get away from a warrant so he wouldn't have to do time, this poor guy is facing an extra possible 5 years. We really need to look at alternatives that are less expensive for taxpayers and less traumatic for transitioning populations.

itsaurora wrote:
I think snowflake20 has a little bit of an anger problem. (but this thread has become very entertaining)

Also, I do agree that this park has become a free for all dog park with many dog owners there having little regard for anyone else. Just because a dog is nice and friendly and cute doesn't mean the leash law doesn't apply.

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The people who own dogs here are the most inconsiderate, entitled asses in JC.

Second only to those who own children.

marybarr wrote:
Jesus--noone gives a damn that this guy hung himself? Even if he was guilty, he had no previous record and maybe he was in declining mental health and this was the first time. I am NOT saying he shouldn't have been taken off the streets but perhaps if he had been on medications under psychiatric care things would be different. If we stopped building jails we could afford to get people into treatment. And his mom sure deserves a prayer.

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I find myself going to the same restaurants. There are not a ton on choices and I don't exactly understand why. I think they're are enough people around to support more restaurants/bars. Maybe the exodus of people to Manhattan during the day limits lunchtime business?

I often wonder why Grove Street isn't more like Park Slope.

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Amy wrote:
You hit the nail on the head. The city is right here, so I guess JC doesn't attract great restaurants. But it would be nice to have some exceptional places right here.

I just can't read statements like this without thinking back to Fort Greene, the Brooklyn neighborhood we lived in before moving to JC.

If a tiny little Brooklyn neighborhood can support an amazing array of restaurants serving an astounding array of food - within a 2 minute walk of our old apartment we had: Ici, Stonehome, Olea, Chez Oskar, Madiba, Pequena, Thomas Beisl, Loulou, and Habana Outpost (just off the top of my head) - why can't Jersey City support the same kind of diversity?

Why does JC have to be nothing but burgers and cheese (both real and metaphorical)?