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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Neutral, professional custodians who are paid by those with the time, money and interest in seeing the park shaped to their whims. What exactly is wrong with the city doing this job?

I hear ya and I know I'm sounding a bit ideological here. I've seen these interested parties come and go and plant their crap while I enjoy my coffee and the trees. My say and effort will be in staying part of this conversation and making sure that all city parks get the attention they deserve.

You won't see me planting my flowers or herbs in the park. They're on my window sill where they belong.

Posted on: 2009/11/24 20:41
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Your openness to ideas is appreciated.

The park is a public resource of the city, not just it's most immediate residents. I'm sure you understand my concerns and understand that's it's not just a shared front lawn for those who own houses that sit along it.

While our city directors may be a crooked as they come for the most part, they are still accountable. I'm less than eager to see a group of people take custodial responsibility for the park that are financially vested and less accountable.

I share your sentiment. There are some things I'd like to see happen, but mostly there's a bunch of ideas I don't like.

Mostly I wish I could go lay in grass and kick around some leaves. Soon...

Posted on: 2009/11/24 19:32
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Quote:

G_Elkind wrote:
While the solution for providing that maintenance will require further thought, discussion and planning, one thing is clear -- returning to the old, ad hoc approaches of the past is not among them.

All the best.

Geoff


Why don't you clarify what you mean by this. Your conservancy plan just brings more of the same with dollars attached.

Posted on: 2009/11/24 18:27
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Am I imagining things or are those new lampposts surplus from Hoboken's Washington St right down to the little white H on top?

Posted on: 2009/11/22 21:04
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Wow, you're the perfect example of who I wish would stop "taking ownership" of HP issues.

Yes, everything would be better if you didn't do that. k, thx.

Posted on: 2009/11/22 4:53
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Re: Scaling the 6th st. embankment?
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Tim Herrick's blog just posted a bunch of pictures from the Marin section a couple days ago. Pretty funny.

http://timothyherrick.blogspot.com/20 ... nkment-embarkment_19.html

"Oh glorious vista. Oh blessed and holy Jersey City. Good people down below, heed my words! I come from on high to declare the glory of the world and the embankment above. I?ll never be the same again after seeing such views, such wide horizons. The infinity of possibilities spreading out far and wide, the fear of insignificance that must be overcome in order to behold such grandeur. Oh Heavens! Oh Earth. Oh Peaks and Valleys! Humble in my Humanity I beseech thee, hear my cry!"

That's Peggy Noonan quality stuff right there.

Posted on: 2009/11/21 20:54
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Quote:

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So it's better to sit in the dark and complain than light a candle, because candles cost money, might burn you, contribute to global warming, and maybe someone else could have bought that candle if you hadn't. Perfect.


Nice metaphor. I see what you did there, but I'm not the one complaining about trees and flowers and swingsets. I'm excited about the renovation. Just keep a public park public is all I'm saying.

Posted on: 2009/11/20 17:33
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Okay, so they exist. I'm aware. Would you care to include fair criticisms of this model? There's more than a few.

More importantly perhaps... Do you really think that the attempts at governing this park by committee and census have worked so far? How are a few $100 donations and a bunch of developer donations going to change this trend? Will he embankment park suffer?

Posted on: 2009/11/20 7:47
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Thanks Geoff, I appreciate your point.

HPNA serves as I see it serves as a great public advocate for representing the park. It's has organizational issues in the past, but I think it's mission is solid. The people involved are dedicated and do what they can with limited resources. It would probably be well served by recruiting some new voices.

The conservancy model concerns me though. The organization would sign a contract with the city for a limited management role over the park. Paying members and those who might want to make a donation would have undue influence to a public resource. While I'm sure some people like that idea, myself and others might feel it smells a little of privatization. That's not good for the local community and city as a whole. I'm sure developers will love the idea, but the casual parker who just wants to sit on the grass during the weekends might think otherwise.

Posted on: 2009/11/20 3:48
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Excellent. Then back to kvetching over your trees and swingsets.

Posted on: 2009/11/20 0:29
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Quote:

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All true Geoff. So what happens first? Do we get a group of stakeholders like HPNA, Lefrak, the Silvermans and large condo assn reps to meet with Steve Fulop about the subject and possible legislation needed?


Yes, make sure you have as few people at the table as possible. And make sure you get lots of money involved. That always clarifies the mission.

What park of PUBLIC park don't you get?

Posted on: 2009/11/19 23:06
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Gantt chart?! Who was I kidding? For all the backslapping over community involvement here, it seems pretty clear that none of you actually have a clue what is going on with this project if you can't answer my simple questions.

Or maybe I just need some coffee.

Posted on: 2009/11/18 15:36
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Re: New liquor store (Buy Rite) coming to downtown
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Shoprite. Pfft. This place rocks. Massive selection. Great wine specials on some of the stuff I saw. They were still getting stuff out on the floor so more too come.

This should help pass some cold winter nights.

Posted on: 2009/11/17 21:33
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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This whole thread reads like a parable advocating dictatorships.

Trees? Check.
Grass? Presumably.
Better lighting? Right on.

Sounds like a very fine park to me. So, are we looking at completion by Christmas or more like Easter?

Is there a Gantt chart around indicating progress?

Posted on: 2009/11/17 21:27
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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On the bright side, maybe they ate the toxic dirt.

Posted on: 2009/11/16 14:41
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Re: Liberty State Park Incident
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Quote:

hamlet wrote:
2 six packs of Heineken Light (for 25 adults)


Criminal indeed!

Posted on: 2009/11/11 17:29
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Re: Liberty State Park Incident
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Quote:

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Completely disagree with your arrogant response. If a Starbucks barista can deal with dozens of idiots per hour and remain pleasant, then a park cop, who probably has one difficult situation a month, can talk to people decently. We should demand more from the police that serve us.


Wait, who's arrogant?! Listen to yourself.

I'm no fan of belligerent cops, believe me, but the original poster is just living in a fantasy land. I'm quite happy to have some thuggish cops in this town. The shit they see on an average night would have me crying home to momma.

Yes, I understand these are the park police, not JCPD, but look at a map and tell me it's not a goddamn miracle that the LSP stays as safe and pleasant as it is.

Posted on: 2009/11/11 15:59
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Re: Wayne St. Playground Park Bench Removal
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Who proposed this ridiculously lazy idea?

Posted on: 2009/11/11 15:25
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Re: Newark Avenue StreetScape
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Thumbs up on the free diet cokes.

Microwave popcorn however is an abomination.

Posted on: 2009/11/11 15:21
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Re: Liberty State Park Incident
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So, you broke the open container law that every person over the age of 12 knows. Then you were a wiseass to the cops claiming all the beers were yours. And now you come to complain about a stern warning and a minor ticket?

Get over yourself and your respectable family.

That park has such a potential to harbor some seriously bad elements yet I've rarely seen a problem there. I'm glad the cops gave you a hard time frankly. You were willfully ignorant and giving them a hard time.

And on the tangent this conversation has taken.... yes, half the cops you will meet are uneducated goons. So what? Don't break the law and you don't have to deal with them you entitled idiot.

Posted on: 2009/11/11 15:11
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Re: CCTV installation downtown
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Seriously.

For $4M you could put a cop at each of those locations around the clock 24/7/365 for 5 years.

Posted on: 2009/10/30 16:56
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Re: VERIZON FIOS
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Mark, have you had any experience with forcing firmware upgrades on the router? Any luck in doing this for people who have had repeated connection drops?

Posted on: 2009/10/23 17:33
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Re: Anti-gay group plans protests in Jersey City
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For anyone who wants to learn more about these people. The BBC's excellent Louis Theroux stayed with them for a few weeks and gives a somewhat sympathetic but fair documentary about them. Link at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7735501683185935638

Posted on: 2009/10/23 16:15
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Re: NYTimes: New Jersey Takes Another Run at a Major New York Employer with 1,600 employees
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Actually the IRS figures you cited from City Journal were from 30 or 40+ counties around NYC (read the data footnotes). My figures were strictly Manhattan jobs. Without historical context, your data doesn't mean much to me. I can provide mine if you like. The metro region is highly populated, very expensive and the idea that people leave comes as no surprise.

I question your premise that these were established people/families going somewhere else, forgiving that we began this conversation talking about businesses leaving. I'll also forgive that City Journal is an agenda driven publication.

But, if you'd really like to make a point of it, you need to put it in some context.

-Who were these people? College students? Families?

-Apples to apples, we need Manhattan specific numbers.

-How did Philly and Boston compare? Because the "domestic migration" of almost all of the northeast is outward. The Democrats are grateful.

-Twenty year trend? Considering the massive influx of the 90s into NYC.

Posted on: 2009/10/23 4:29
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Re: Anti-gay group plans protests in Jersey City
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You're attempting to apply logic to those who are not logical. And, if you read the faq it basically says that anyone who engages in sex outside of the marriage bed is a fag. That's not good enough for them either though. If you argue with them they just shut down BECAUSE THEY MAKE NO EFFIN SENSE.

"Trying to have a conversation with you would be like arguing with a dining room table."

Posted on: 2009/10/22 20:08
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Re: Anti-gay group plans protests in Jersey City
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Wrong. The Supreme court said that the definition was too narrow. It ruled against sodomy laws for hetero and homosexuals.

As for gay groups not standing up for your rights... I second the facepalm. You're hopeless.

Posted on: 2009/10/22 20:01
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Re: VERIZON FIOS
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Mine has been solid for 5 months now. Not one outage.

Do you lose cable and internet or just one of them? Might need a replacement box. If it's both, either the coax or fibre likely needs replacing.

Posted on: 2009/10/22 2:52
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Re: Anti-gay group plans protests in Jersey City
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Quote:

jclxz wrote:

I think it would be a good idea for anyone who thinks hotels should start discriminating based on political beliefs to sit this one out.

The God Hates Fags guys are starting to look more and more sane by comparison. (although as the ultimate troll organization, they bring out the trolls on every side).


As if this had anything even remotely to do with politics. You know, when they say FAGS, they don't just mean gays, they mean you too. Anyone who doesn't agree with them is such. Even members of their own family.

If you so painfully ambivalent about them, then just sit back and enjoy.

Posted on: 2009/10/21 22:14
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Re: Anti-gay group plans protests in Jersey City
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I don't think that any company, hotels, car rentals, or otherwise, should cater to these people bringing their hate parade to our community. They have their 1st amendment rights and so do we. If Englewood can stop a dictator from sleeping on his own land in their town, we can certainly let these people know that they are not welcome.

Long after they're gone, my wallet will remember who supports or enables these misguided hatemongers.

Posted on: 2009/10/21 18:30
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Re: Anti-gay group plans protests in Jersey City
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I wonder what hotel they're staying at. I'm sure management would love to be made aware they are housing these tards and posting such on every travel site would not be out of the question.

Posted on: 2009/10/21 18:13
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